basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

[AV David]

The following was on Packerupdate website.

"James Campen was a rather marginal player for the Packers in the early 90s and he’s been a seldom-heard from assistant coach with the team for the past five years, but that anonymity may be about to change. According to a person familiar with the situation, Campen is at the very heart of the organization’s decision to file tampering charges against the Vikings on Wednesday. “Favre told Campen about his interest in playing for Minnesota - and about his numerous conversations with Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell - when the two friends met in Kiln, Mississippi on June 8,” said the source. “[General manager] Ted Thompson has known about all this for weeks. Once Favre officially requested his unconditional release on July 9, the organization began moving forward with its plan to file tampering charges. And since it’s highly doubtful that what Favre allegedly said to Campen would be enough to prove wrongdoing on the part of the Vikings, I’m guessing that the Packers have more than just that.”


Think about it: Favre threw Campen under the bus before he knew Campen had already thrown Favre under the bus.

[Pacopete4]

YESSS!!! LET THIS FRANCHISE SUFFER MORE AND MORE!!! THANKS CAMPEN, FAVRE, TT, MM... THANKS ALL!!


my god this situation is the worst handled thing ive ever seen.. worse than spygate IMO

[sharpe1027]

Re: basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

Think about it: Favre threw Campen under the bus before he knew Campen had already thrown Favre under the bus.

Did Favre do anything wrong? Can he be punished or only the Vikings? If it is only the Vikings, then Favre isn't really isn't thrown under the bus, except that he looks like he told Campen one thing and the fans and media another. *gasp* That sounds like an "untruth."

[hoosier]

YESSS!!! LET THIS FRANCHISE SUFFER MORE AND MORE!!! THANKS CAMPEN, FAVRE, TT, MM... THANKS ALL!!


my god this situation is the worst handled thing ive ever seen.. worse than spygate IMO

No chance. Favre is coming across as a flake in addition to a spaz. If anything, TT will garner more sympathy for putting up with BF's crap with such good grace. Once training camp starts and Favre doesn't show, I suspect this will all pass under the bridge and disappear from sight.

[HowardRoark]

Re: basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

The following was on Packerupdate website.

"James Campen was a rather marginal player for the Packers in the early 90s and he’s been a seldom-heard from assistant coach with the team for the past five years, but that anonymity may be about to change. According to a person familiar with the situation, Campen is at the very heart of the organization’s decision to file tampering charges against the Vikings on Wednesday. “Favre told Campen about his interest in playing for Minnesota - and about his numerous conversations with Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell - when the two friends met in Kiln, Mississippi on June 8,” said the source. “[General manager] Ted Thompson has known about all this for weeks. Once Favre officially requested his unconditional release on July 9, the organization began moving forward with its plan to file tampering charges. And since it’s highly doubtful that what Favre allegedly said to Campen would be enough to prove wrongdoing on the part of the Vikings, I’m guessing that the Packers have more than just that.”


Think about it: Favre threw Campen under the bus before he knew Campen had already thrown Favre under the bus.

Maybe TT is a genius after all. Playing his cards perfectly to get some compensation out of this mess.

[The Leaper]

Re: basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

Maybe TT is a genius after all. Playing his cards perfectly to get some compensation out of this mess.

Hilarious.

Thompson may get more in return for draft picks via tampering charges than he would in a trade.

Perhaps Thompson and Favre engineered this whole mess back in March to stick it to the Vikings?

[Lurker64]

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Maybe TT is a genius after all. Playing his cards perfectly to get some compensation out of this mess.

Yeah, at this point I both cannot see how Favre could have played this worse or how Thompson could have played this better. Ted's going to come out of this smelling like a rose.

[AV David]

"Did Favre do anything wrong? Can he be punished or only the Vikings? If it is only the Vikings, then Favre isn't really isn't thrown under the bus, except that he looks like he told Campen one thing and the fans and media another. *gasp* That sounds like an "untruth."


I don't think Favre can be punished by the NFL. I think he did "wrong" as a human being.


The theory is this: the Vikes are recruiting Favre through Bevell. That is the reason Favre decides to come out of retirement. Favre can get a "twofer" 1. He can take a last shot at the Superbowl with a terrific defensive line and a phenomenal rb. 2. He gets to stick it to TT because apparently he has been building up hostility against TT for some time now. The whole unretirement thing is premised upon going for the gusto with the Vikings.

Favre spilled his guts to Campen about being recruited by the Vikes. Later, Favre figures Campen is an OK guy, but expendable as a friend. Favre throws him under the bus by portraying Campen as a turncoat Packer who sided with Favre and spoke to Favre "out of school." At this point Campen is "collateral damage." But so what, Campen is "little people." In reality, Campen is a trojan horse of sorts. He has already ratted Favre out to TT. That effectively destroys the Viking conspiracy. Now Favre probably stays retired because he really only wanted to play for the Vikes.

Great idea Brett. Lousy execution.

[The Leaper]

Now Favre probably stays retired because he really only wanted to play for the Vikes.

I doubt that is the case. Favre wanted to play for the Packers, but after he was told that wasn't an option he probably viewed the Vikings as the next best opportunity to go somewhere that needed a QB and had a chance at a title...plus it would give him a chance to get back at Thompson and prove him wrong.

I can't blame Favre for that line of logic...and I can't really blame the Packers for deciding to move on. This is the perfect storm that comes about when a legendary franchise has to part ways with a legendary QB.

[boiga]

Wow. If they really do have hard proof of all this, then TT is going to get completely cleared of wrongdoing

But Campen... jeez. What a double agent. They should make a movie about him. This certainly explains why McCarthy was so quick to respond to Brett's claim that Campen was sent to Mississippi on the team's behalf.

In any case, I'm willing to bet Campen felt a hell of a lot less guilty over ratting on Brett after that gretta interview came out.

[RashanGary]

I've been wondering this whole time how media member (usual former athletes) have been able to look in the mirror and say both sides should have done things differently.

Favre retired
Packers moved forward and want to go with Rodgers
Favre goes NUTZ

Somehow the Packers did something wrong?

I don't see it. Other than trying to talk Brett into not tarnishing his legacy (something that should be up to Brett), I don't se how they've been in the wrong on anything and that is a very minor point in all of this anyway.

It's jsut like the Jwalk situation. Everyone insisted TT did something wrong. No, when a player goes nutz, everyone ends up hurting whether they did everythign right, everythign wrong or somethign in the middle.

[AV David]

"I can't blame Favre for that line of logic...and I can't really blame the Packers for deciding to move on."

Favre used Campen to support his PR campaign. When he did it, he had to figure it could have some pretty negative employment consequences for Campen. By the way, Campen is working check to check for the Packers. He never made a ton of money in the NFL. He needs the job and was supposedly Favre's friend.

Do you think Favre's willingness to betray a "friend" exposes a negative side to his character?

I do.

[Partial]

I've been wondering this whole time how media member (usual former athletes) have been able to look in the mirror and say both sides should have done things differently.

Favre retired
Packers moved forward and want to go with Rodgers
Favre goes NUTZ

Somehow the Packers did something wrong?

I don't see it. Other than trying to talk Brett into not tarnishing his legacy (something that should be up to Brett), I don't se how they've been in the wrong on anything and that is a very minor point in all of this anyway.

It's jsut like the Jwalk situation. Everyone insisted TT did something wrong. No, when a player goes nutz, everyone ends up hurting whether they did everythign wright, everythign wrong or somethign in the middle.

ummm, moved forward exactly how? They haven't started camp yet...

It's all rumor to this point.

[sharpe1027]

Wow. If they really do have hard proof of all this, then TT is going to get completely cleared of wrongdoing

But Campen... jeez. What a double agent. They should make a movie about him. This certainly explains why McCarthy was so quick to respond to Brett's claim that Campen was sent to Mississippi on the team's behalf.

In any case, I'm willing to bet Campen felt a hell of a lot less guilty over ratting on Brett after that gretta interview came out.

Campen is a double agent? I don't know, he works for the Packers. He became aware of actions by another team that hurt the Packers through Favre. He reported the actions to his superiors. Favre was retired and was (reportedly) being recruited by the Vikings, the Vikings were in the wrong not Favre. Of course Favre's recent actions look worse in light of this information, but Campen reported it weeks ago according to the article.

[KYPack]

Yeah, this whole thing will blow over.

TT will send Campen down there again and those two will smooth the whole thing out.

NOT!