basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

[PackerTimer]

I doubt that is the case. Favre wanted to play for the Packers, but after he was told that wasn't an option he probably viewed the Vikings as the next best opportunity to go somewhere that needed a QB and had a chance at a title...plus it would give him a chance to get back at Thompson and prove him wrong.

I can't blame Favre for that line of logic...and I can't really blame the Packers for deciding to move on. This is the perfect storm that comes about when a legendary franchise has to part ways with a legendary QB

Didn't Favre himself say that he was told playing for the Packers wasn't an option on June 20th in a coversation with MM? This all happened on June 8th.

[HowardRoark]

Wow. If they really do have hard proof of all this, then TT is going to get completely cleared of wrongdoing

But Campen... jeez. What a double agent. They should make a movie about him. This certainly explains why McCarthy was so quick to respond to Brett's claim that Campen was sent to Mississippi on the team's behalf.

In any case, I'm willing to bet Campen felt a hell of a lot less guilty over ratting on Brett after that gretta interview came out.

Campen is a double agent? I don't know, he works for the Packers. He became aware of actions by another team that hurt the Packers through Favre. He reported the actions to his superiors. Favre was retired and was (reportedly) being recruited by the Vikings, the Vikings were in the wrong not Favre. Of course Favre's recent actions look worse in light of this information, but Campen reported it weeks ago according to the article.

I think he is just an agent. He would be a double agent if Favre thought he was working as an agent for him. I think.

But it IS rude of him to involve Deanna.

[boiga]

Campen is a double agent? I don't know, he works for the Packers. He became aware of actions by another team that hurt the Packers through Favre. He reported the actions to his superiors. Favre was retired and was (reportedly) being recruited by the Vikings, the Vikings were in the wrong not Favre. Of course Favre's recent actions look worse in light of this information, but Campen reported it weeks ago according to the article.

But according to Brett, Campen also told him that he could force the Packers hand by demanding to come back. That went against the best interest of the organization, but is certainly something you would tell a friend.

And Favre must have been friendly enough with the guy if he told him about meeting with the vikings. That's not something he'd want TT to know about... for obvious reasons.

So it seems Campen was trying to play both sides to come to a resolution. Instead, he screwed over both sides by giving inside information to both parties.

He's a double agent.

[sharpe1027]

But according to Brett, Campen also told him that he could force the Packers hand by demanding to come back. That went against the best interest of the organization, but is certainly something you would tell a friend.

And Favre must have been friendly enough with the guy if he told him about meeting with the vikings. That's not something he'd want TT to know about... for obvious reasons.

So it seems Campen was trying to play both sides to come to a resolution. Instead, he screwed over both sides by giving inside information to both parties.

He's a double agent.

Good points, but I think that Campen was asked by the Packers to go talk to Favre "as a friend" and not as an official visit. Also, what Campen told Favre was just his opinion of what the Packers would do if Favre forced their hand. While it is not flattering to MM and TT, I don't know how that is inside information or against the best wishes of the organization.

[boiga]

PFT is reporting on a new aspect of this allegation already: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...-on-the-vikes/

Rumors are that Brett's communication with Bevell occurred using a cell phone paid for by the packers. So, they already have the entire call list.

Communication with Bevell spiked before the release statement and they even have a call between Childress' office and Favre.

That's pretty damning if corroborated.

[DonHutson]

Rumors are that Brett's communication with Bevell occurred using a cell phone paid for by the packers. So, they already have the entire call list.

D'oh...

[digitaldean]

If this is true, that's a big...


On a side note...
Brett needs to have the Packers pay for a cell phone for him? I suppose they can then get a hold of him easier (?)

Boy does this situation have the Keystone Kops written all over it.

[DonHutson]

Actually after reading the whole article it sounds more like Florio is taking a guess that this may have happened because he's not sure how else the Packers would have the phone records. I don't know either, but the cell phone theory seems a bit far-fetched. Maybe Campen was wearing a wire when he talked to Favre. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Which raises an interesting question as to how far the NFL can go to gather evidence in a case such as this? Can they actually get phone records and search computers?

[sharpe1027]

Actually after reading the whole article it sounds more like Florio is taking a guess that this may have happened because he's not sure how else the Packers would have the phone records. I don't know either, but the cell phone theory seems a bit far-fetched. Maybe Campen was wearing a wire when he talked to Favre. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Which raises an interesting question as to how far the NFL can go to gather evidence in a case such as this? Can they actually get phone records and search computers?

They probably could get that information with consent. If the Vikings refuse to cooperate, the Commissioner could just assume the records show their guilt.

[Deputy Nutz]

The NFL is basically issuing a search warrant on the Minnesota Vikings. League officals will go into the Vikings complex and basically take or go into all of their computers, phone records made or received on the Vikings premesis. So if Bevell made contact with Favre, basically any contact regardless on how close of friends they are, the Vikings will have to do some answering. I don't know if this is against league rules or policy, but I know the league looks down on Coaches or front office officials contacting and communicating with players under contract from another team, and given the circumstances surrounding Brett Favre at the moment it sure doesn't look good for the Vikings. At the very least, and at this point the most probably the Vikings will get a slap on the wrist.

This also goes with my theory on how close Brett Favre and Darrell Bevell actually are. When Bevell was in Green Bay nothing was really made of their close bond which is now being reported. Everyone knew how close Mooch and Favre were, but I never really heard how much Bevell meant to Favre in regards to football or outside of it on a personal level.

[The Shadow]

Re: basis of tampering charges Favre statements to Campen

Maybe TT is a genius after all. Playing his cards perfectly to get some compensation out of this mess.

Yeah, at this point I both cannot see how Favre could have played this worse or how Thompson could have played this better. Ted's going to come out of this smelling like a rose.

It certainly appears that way!

[CaptainKickass]

Maybe Campen was wearing a wire when he talked to Favre. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Shazam!

I've posted two r three times in other threads early on that Campen was using his "handy pocket tape recorder "when he visited Favre.

I should be a frickin journalist.

[packinpatland]

Maybe Campen was wearing a wire when he talked to Favre. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Shazam!

I've posted two r three times in other threads early on that Campen was using his "handy pocket tape recorder "when he visited Favre.

I should be a frickin journalist.

You sure Bill Belichik wasn't involved in some way?

[DonHutson]

I've posted two r three times in other threads early on that Campen was using his "handy pocket tape recorder "when he visited Favre.

I should be a frickin journalist.

You could certainly get away with playing one on the internet.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

By the way, Campen is working check to check for the Packers. He never made a ton of money in the NFL. He needs the job and was supposedly Favre's friend.

Where do you get this kinda stuff? First, Campen played 6 seasons in the NFL. Since he was acquired as a free agent..i'm sure he wasn't making the minimum. Even minimum NFL wage is pretty darn good money...and if he was smart..and we have to think so based on his career at Tulane..he socked some money away or bought a reasonable house.

He has been employed since he retired, and if he was really hurting i highly doubt he woulda been "just" a d coordinator at his alma mater.

the guy is no millionaire...but, neither is most of america.