PFT - FAVRE IS DONE?

[pbmax]

Well this could all be whistling into the wind, but if you were to supply Favre with a list, would it be one that you had done some research on or would it be theoretical?

That is not a rhetorical question. I think, if this alleged scenario were to be accurate, then the Packers would be crazy to list teams as possible trading partners that hadn't shown interest.

Three teams could have agreed to the parameters of the deal. Of course, then I would expect THAT to leak, not the list.

How many AFC teams do you see lining up to trade for Favre? If there is a list, then it would be logical the Packers have made calls.

A list that the Packers would be willing to trade him to and a list of teams that could or would want to trade for him aren't the same.

[MJZiggy]

Well this could all be whistling into the wind, but if you were to supply Favre with a list, would it be one that you had done some research on or would it be theoretical?

That is not a rhetorical question. I think, if this alleged scenario were to be accurate, then the Packers would be crazy to list teams as possible trading partners that hadn't shown interest.

Three teams could have agreed to the parameters of the deal. Of course, then I would expect THAT to leak, not the list.

How many AFC teams do you see lining up to trade for Favre? If there is a list, then it would be logical the Packers have made calls.

A list that the Packers would be willing to trade him to and a list of teams that could or would want to trade for him aren't the same.

I thought they asked HIM for a list...? and didn't TT want him reinstated before he'd talk to other teams about Favre?

[Partial]

Who are the three alleged teams the Packers would be willing to trade Favre?

I'm not sure. The following AFC teams have the cap room to take him: Jacksonville, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City. Jacksonville and San Diego are set at QB at this point barring injury and wouldn't give Favre a shot at a starter, so I would guess the list consisted of "Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City".

You used to be a decent poster but you've been rather harrell like lately. Wouldn't give him a shot at starting? Says whom exactly?!? Man... you seem to lack the basic understanding of what teams will do to get to a super bowl.

[pbmax]

Zig, the "Packers asked for a list of acceptable teams" quote was from Greta in an AP interview prior to the first of the 29 part interview. Last time I checked the transcript (after part 3) that quote was not there and I don't think it made the broadcast. Still, Greta is on record with it and its possible.

Thompson's public stance is that he can't do anything until Favre unretires. This could just be buying time with the public. He can call and look for trading partners even with Favre on the shelf. He could have done this within the rules even if Favre had never expressed a desire to return.

So if Favre believes that he cannot trust Thompson, he might not have coughed up a list. That would leave the Packers with the job of calling around, should they think its beneficial to move him early rather than risk him coming to camp.

At this point, the PFT story looks a little wobbly, as I said, if it got to this point, I would expect rumors of trade parameters, not a list sent to Favre. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that we may be missing puzzle pieces.

Well this could all be whistling into the wind, but if you were to supply Favre with a list, would it be one that you had done some research on or would it be theoretical?

That is not a rhetorical question. I think, if this alleged scenario were to be accurate, then the Packers would be crazy to list teams as possible trading partners that hadn't shown interest.

Three teams could have agreed to the parameters of the deal. Of course, then I would expect THAT to leak, not the list.

How many AFC teams do you see lining up to trade for Favre? If there is a list, then it would be logical the Packers have made calls.

A list that the Packers would be willing to trade him to and a list of teams that could or would want to trade for him aren't the same.

I thought they asked HIM for a list...? and didn't TT want him reinstated before he'd talk to other teams about Favre?

[pbmax]

I do not see the Chargers sitting Phillip Rivers for Favre. Rivers has made the payoffs two years in a row and is much younger. Of course, like everyone except Manning, Rivers has an injury to get through.

And Jacksonville had a superb season from Garrard last year. He is the coach's hand picked choice over previous incumbent Leftwich. He is not sitting for Favre.

Barring injury, which can certainly happen, I don't think those are likely landing spots.

Who are the three alleged teams the Packers would be willing to trade Favre?

I'm not sure. The following AFC teams have the cap room to take him: Jacksonville, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City. Jacksonville and San Diego are set at QB at this point barring injury and wouldn't give Favre a shot at a starter, so I would guess the list consisted of "Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City".

You used to be a decent poster but you've been rather harrell like lately. Wouldn't give him a shot at starting? Says whom exactly?!? Man... you seem to lack the basic understanding of what teams will do to get to a super bowl.

[falco]

Who are the three alleged teams the Packers would be willing to trade Favre?

I'm not sure. The following AFC teams have the cap room to take him: Jacksonville, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City. Jacksonville and San Diego are set at QB at this point barring injury and wouldn't give Favre a shot at a starter, so I would guess the list consisted of "Buffalo, Miami, and Kansas City".

You used to be a decent poster but you've been rather harrell like lately. Wouldn't give him a shot at starting? Says whom exactly?!? Man... you seem to lack the basic understanding of what teams will do to get to a super bowl.

partial, you're about the closest thing to harrell there is here, so you shouldn't talk

EDIT - i complete agree with lurker - both SD and JAX both have young, promising QB's that they wouldn't bench for Favre in his twilight years

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well this could all be whistling into the wind, but if you were to supply Favre with a list, would it be one that you had done some research on or would it be theoretical?

I'd think the Packers would give him a list and vice versa, and then let his agent work out a trade. This has happened in a lot of other instances. I'm sure Favre would be willing to re-negotiate his contract. There are some teams (that aren't on your list of teams with available cap space) that might be willing to move money around to clear up that cap space for him. It's up to Bus Cook to find the right team and the right contract, and then the Packers and that team to find the right compensation.

[Jimx29]

TT can handle the heat...he has been doing it for several years...took it when he "dismantled" the team.

Yea, but if he happens to trade away one of thee best icons in all of football, he better hope he's living in a gated community. There are some heavy drinking diehard Packer fanatics out there that would not take to that very kindly.

[woodbuck27]

If this is accurate, Favre will be the first high-profile pro athlete who damaged his legacy by not playing for a new team late in his career.

Now that's a REAL PIECE of GARBAGE fr. PFT really really bad.

I won't even debate it.

[Lurker64]

EDIT - i complete agree with lurker - both SD and JAX both have young, promising QB's that they wouldn't bench for Favre in his twilight years

That's exactly it. The Chargers and the Jaguars expect/hope Rivers and Garrard to be their quarterbacks for many more years. If either of those teams took on Favre and sat Rivers or Garrard, they would damage their relationship with last year's starting QB significantly and these are guys who other teams would want to snap up if they're allowed to hit the market. Rivers/Garrard give their teams a good shot at both winning the superbowl now, and also winning the superbowl in 10 years.

Even if Favre is better than Rivers/Garrard at this point in his career, it just doesn't make sense to give up what that QB can give you every year for the next 5-7 years for 1-2 years of Favre who is not a dramatic upgrade (since San Diego and Jacksonville have good QBs to begin with).

Both SD and JAX have a legitimate shot at the superbowl this year (they're definitely two of my favorites), without Favre. Why would they give up anything to get him?

[woodbuck27]

I still think, if he is traded, that Tampa is where it will be.

Why? Cause the only team that plays West Coast offense.

I know many will say that he won't get traded there cause NFC team, but i don't agree.

Yes, we play them...but, on the road....so, we wouldn't have the favre love'in as expected at Lambeau.

I think TT can handle that kind of heat.

I agree that TB is the most logical place; I don't agree that TT can handle the heat.

TT does not want Favre to play. I still don't believe the story but if TT gave Favre a few teams they were probably teams that he figures Favre will not go to. Everything the Packers have done the past few weeks PR wise...with several people sending messages...have been designed to keep Favre from coming out of retirement

The packers can't stop Favre from coming out of retirement. It is that simple. And, TT is smart/cold/analytical enough to not care one way or the other if Favre plays now. At this stage TT is all about trading him
TT already had faced the unknown...not having favre this year..so favre coming back equals more picks...it is that simple.

TT can handle the heat...he has been doing it for several years...took it when he "dismantled" the team.

Who's 'the Good Cop Bad Cop' today? I agree that TT is doing all he can to force Favre to retire having played his last game as a Packer. The story will be just how much TT felt that was best for Brett Favre. Ohhh Ted. This isn't over because after the season Favre had last season if he wants to play he's getting shafted. This is clear.

Imagine your Brett Favre.

For all that is holy could you just try to go there? Management takes your job away and gives it to some young fella with ZERO starting experience and do all you can to eliminate > 12 million dollars from the CAP and still have ""the Favre appreciation BS night".

TT 's not at all good and not that good.

Favre just has to get away from Ted Thompson. TT redefines the term......... ' control freak '. Under no circumstance do I want to see Favre back in the Green and Gold as this has gone. Now he may report and apply more pressure but TT sucks under pressure. Your all going to see. Your going to see. Your going to see. It can't be over as this has been handled.

It's outrageous. I wanted Brett Favre to just STOP, as he's getting burned in Green Bay. He's the best QB in the NFC last season and still too many people here would stab his back.

You know your all going to hell if you don't clean up your acts? hahaa

karma... Ladies and gentleman. You'll see. Ohh yea.

[packers11]

PFT...

Favre is done?

I remember a year ago...

"Randy Moss to GB. Deal Done ...."

I'll believe it when I see it...

[woodbuck27]

PFT...

Favre is done?

I remember a year ago...

"Randy Moss to GB. Deal Done ...."

I'll believe it when I see it...

Favre must rise from 'the flames'.

[Lurker64]

Favre must rise from 'the flames'.

Brett's playing hockey in Calgary?

[GBRulz]

This sounds horrible to say, but I would almost welcome this news right now.

We haven't signed any of our picks...Grant is still without a contract.... I sure hope there is some action in the next few days as camp opens this weekend.