The Packers Are Dropping The Ball

[Partial]

One thing that all the single-track thinking JustinHarrell's of the world are forgetting is what a slap in the face this is to the Mark Tauscher's, Chad Clifton's, Donald Driver's, Al Harris' and Chuck Woodson's of the organization.

These are the best players on the team, and also some of the oldest. These guys are the players that will determine the success or the failure of the team. Consequently, these are the special players that are quickly approaching the downside of their career and they deserve a chance to play for a super bowl after sticking with the Packers through the 4-12 and then the 8-8 season.

This team will make the playoffs with Favre. With A-Rod as the starter, it's certainly not a sure thing and one could argue its actually very unlikely.

The team should handle this by gathering these players up in a room and taking a vote as to what they want to do and who they want to start at Quarterback. Obviously, the result will be Favre, because these guys don't necessarily have 3-4 years for A-Rod to learn how to A) Stay healthy, B) gain some experience/not suck

He's already learned how to not suck. He's not going to learn how to stay healthy, he either is going to stay healthy or he won't. This is football for crying out loud. Injuries happen. As far as experience goes, how much experience did Tom Brady or Ben Rothlisberger have before they won thier first SB? Were they groomed for years before becoming the starter? I think Rodgers is as prepared as either of those two were, and the team around him is just as good. I see no reason why good things just can't happen with Rodgers under center.

Equally prepared, sure. Equally talented? Highly unlikely, even if he does eventually become an above average NFL qb. Those guys are bad examples because they're both in the top 6 QBs in the league and rare talents.

That's just it Partial. You don't know that Rodgers isn't a top 6 QB. Neither do I. You are just assuming he isn't because you haven't seen him do it yet. Do you think Steelers fans thought Big Ben was a top 6 QB when he took the reins? How many Patriots fans we're clammoring for Tom Brady, a 6th round draft pick, over Drew Bledsoe in Brady's rookie season? I'm guessing not very many, not until they saw what they could do anyway. How about we hold off judgement until we see what Rodgers can do?

Right, and those quarterbacks defied the overwhelming odds of NOT being a great player.

Certainly the odds are against A-Rod. Maybe he'll be a great player. But I'm unwilling to hedge my super bowl dreams on a weak maybe versus a guaranteed sure bet.

Brett's not a guaranteed sure bet. Nothing is a guarantee. Brett said it himself.

Brett played lights out last year. What reason is there to think he won't do it again? He's in great shape and as healthy as ever. Mort has seen him chuck some "rocket balls" evidently. Favre himself has said he will stop playing when he doesn't have it any more. Clearly, he knows his abilities best and still thinks he can play at an ultra high level.

[SkinBasket]

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already.

[woodbuck27]

Re: The Packers Are Dropping The Ball

Trade him to the Vikes for a 2 if you're Teddy T and be done with it. If A-Rod is so good and you're so confident that you're moving on, you shouldn't have any fear of being destroyed by the Vikes twice annually.

If you honestly believe this, then you lose tons of credibility. He wont trade a starting QB in the division because he's afraid? That's just stupid P. In every sport you don't assist your rivals in getting better. You don't help a team in your own division get stronger because a player says so. I dont give 2 shits if this was Walter Peyton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders etc. YOU DONT TRADE TO YOUR OWN DIVISION. That should be clear enough for you. You really should stop this line of thinking. Its not gaining you anything.

I agree but as TT drags another one out he will paint himself into a corner. TT just has to get past himself Zool. TT is setting up again to be his own worst enemy.

Brett Favre has played it just right right to date, as REALITY suggests to this Packer fan. Brett Favre is no man's fool. Ted Thompson doesn't do well when the heat is on...he freezes up. We've seen evidence of that time after time.

Brett Favre should advise him again. TT needs to listen for Ted Thompson.

[woodbuck27]

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already.

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already. SkinBasket

so he can stop fucking freaking out SkinBasket

stop fucking freaking SkinBasket

stop fucking SkinBasket

fucking SkinBasket

NOT judging you SkinBasket, just wondering man.

What in any thing proper on a forum that includes decent people ( WOMEN and MEN ) that have decent manners, is that accomplishging for YOUR credibility and respect here? You man!

Does this ' just maybe ' suggest ' a better way'? I'm on 'your side ' skinBasket. . . I'm your friend.

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

[cpk1994]

One thing that all the single-track thinking JustinHarrell's of the world are forgetting is what a slap in the face this is to the Mark Tauscher's, Chad Clifton's, Donald Driver's, Al Harris' and Chuck Woodson's of the organization.

These are the best players on the team, and also some of the oldest. These guys are the players that will determine the success or the failure of the team. Consequently, these are the special players that are quickly approaching the downside of their career and they deserve a chance to play for a super bowl after sticking with the Packers through the 4-12 and then the 8-8 season.

This team will make the playoffs with Favre. With A-Rod as the starter, it's certainly not a sure thing and one could argue its actually very unlikely.

The team should handle this by gathering these players up in a room and taking a vote as to what they want to do and who they want to start at Quarterback. Obviously, the result will be Favre, because these guys don't necessarily have 3-4 years for A-Rod to learn how to A) Stay healthy, B) gain some experience/not suck

He's already learned how to not suck. He's not going to learn how to stay healthy, he either is going to stay healthy or he won't. This is football for crying out loud. Injuries happen. As far as experience goes, how much experience did Tom Brady or Ben Rothlisberger have before they won thier first SB? Were they groomed for years before becoming the starter? I think Rodgers is as prepared as either of those two were, and the team around him is just as good. I see no reason why good things just can't happen with Rodgers under center.

Equally prepared, sure. Equally talented? Highly unlikely, even if he does eventually become an above average NFL qb. Those guys are bad examples because they're both in the top 6 QBs in the league and rare talents.

That's just it Partial. You don't know that Rodgers isn't a top 6 QB. Neither do I. You are just assuming he isn't because you haven't seen him do it yet. Do you think Steelers fans thought Big Ben was a top 6 QB when he took the reins? How many Patriots fans we're clammoring for Tom Brady, a 6th round draft pick, over Drew Bledsoe in Brady's rookie season? I'm guessing not very many, not until they saw what they could do anyway. How about we hold off judgement until we see what Rodgers can do?

Right, and those quarterbacks defied the overwhelming odds of NOT being a great player.

Certainly the odds are against A-Rod. Maybe he'll be a great player. But I'm unwilling to hedge my super bowl dreams on a weak maybe versus a guaranteed sure bet.

Brett's not a guaranteed sure bet. Nothing is a guarantee. Brett said it himself.

Brett played lights out last year. What reason is there to think he won't do it again? He's in great shape and as healthy as ever. Mort has seen him chuck some "rocket balls" evidently. Favre himself has said he will stop playing when he doesn't have it any more. Clearly, he knows his abilities best and still thinks he can play at an ultra high level.

So what? WInning the Super Bowl is no guarantee with or without Favre. Just ask Tom BRady how his Super Bowl went.

[SkinBasket]

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already.

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already. SkinBasket

so he can stop fucking freaking out SkinBasket

stop fucking freaking SkinBasket

stop fucking SkinBasket

fucking SkinBasket
NOT judging you SkinBasket, just wondering man.

What in any thing proper on a forum that includes decent people ( WOMEN and MEN ) that have decent manners, is that accomplishging for YOUR credibility and respect here? You man!

Does this ' just maybe ' suggest ' a better way'? I'm on 'your side ' skinBasket. . . I'm your friend.

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

Go fuck yourself Ed.

-Sincerely,
SkinBasket


PS.
Is that better manners?

[MOBB DEEP]

im havn visions of the broncs post-elway (and we dont even have a t. davis)

arogant TT = arogant shannahan

[Zool]

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already.

Someone send Partial a Rodgers jersey already so he can stop fucking freaking out about this already. SkinBasket

so he can stop fucking freaking out SkinBasket

stop fucking freaking SkinBasket

stop fucking SkinBasket

fucking SkinBasket
NOT judging you SkinBasket, just wondering man.

What in any thing proper on a forum that includes decent people ( WOMEN and MEN ) that have decent manners, is that accomplishging for YOUR credibility and respect here? You man!

Does this ' just maybe ' suggest ' a better way'? I'm on 'your side ' skinBasket. . . I'm your friend.

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

Go fuck yourself Ed.

-Sincerely,
SkinBasket


PS.
Is that better manners?

Fucking Skinbasket

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On6FSphbpUY

[Partial]

So what? WInning the Super Bowl is no guarantee with or without Favre. Just ask Tom BRady how his Super Bowl went.

No, its not. That's why you have to put the very best team on the field and do everything you can to get there. You think Chad Clifton is super stoked to have A-Rod as the QB, or do you think he'd rather have Favre? What about Chuck? That is all that should matter.

[Chevelle2]

So what? WInning the Super Bowl is no guarantee with or without Favre. Just ask Tom BRady how his Super Bowl went.

No, its not. That's why you have to put the very best team on the field and do everything you can to get there. You think Chad Clifton is super stoked to have A-Rod as the QB, or do you think he'd rather have Favre? What about Chuck? That is all that should matter.

They played harder in the Dallas game w/o Favre.

Probably because they wanted to show they could do it on their own.

[woodbuck27]

Rodgers is in a better position to defy those odds than either of those two were. They were able to overcome that, and there's no reason Rodgers can't/shouldn't.

I agree that there is no reason Rodgers cant and shouldnt succeed. The team is built to win now and if they dont the blame will likely deservedly fall square on his shoulders.

I'll never blame Aaron Rodgers. He's a Packer player. Our next projected starting QB. He must go out and relax and become his own person, Packer and NFL starting QB.

As Brett Favre has said, and I have faith in. Aaron Rodgers 'should' do well and if the pieces are amply put in place for him to succeed.

He certainly needs the support of a running game.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[cpk1994]

Re: The Packers Are Dropping The Ball

Trade him to the Vikes for a 2 if you're Teddy T and be done with it. If A-Rod is so good and you're so confident that you're moving on, you shouldn't have any fear of being destroyed by the Vikes twice annually.

If you honestly believe this, then you lose tons of credibility. He wont trade a starting QB in the division because he's afraid? That's just stupid P. In every sport you don't assist your rivals in getting better. You don't help a team in your own division get stronger because a player says so. I dont give 2 shits if this was Walter Peyton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders etc. YOU DONT TRADE TO YOUR OWN DIVISION. That should be clear enough for you. You really should stop this line of thinking. Its not gaining you anything.

I agree but as TT drags another one out he will paint himself into a corner. TT just has to get past himself Zool. TT is setting up again to be his own worst enemy.

Brett Favre has played it just right right to date, as REALITY suggests to this Packer fan. Brett Favre is no man's fool. Ted Thompson doesn't do well when the heat is on...he freezes up. We've seen evidence of that time after time.

Brett Favre should advise him again. TT needs to listen for Ted Thompson.

Reality for what ever planet you live on, which isn't earth like the rest of us.

[woodbuck27]

One thing that all the single-track thinking JustinHarrell's of the world are forgetting is what a slap in the face this is to the Mark Tauscher's, Chad Clifton's, Donald Driver's, Al Harris' and Chuck Woodson's of the organization.

These are the best players on the team, and also some of the oldest. These guys are the players that will determine the success or the failure of the team. Consequently, these are the special players that are quickly approaching the downside of their career and they deserve a chance to play for a super bowl after sticking with the Packers through the 4-12 and then the 8-8 season.

This team will make the playoffs with Favre. With A-Rod as the starter, it's certainly not a sure thing and one could argue its actually very unlikely.

The team should handle this by gathering these players up in a room and taking a vote as to what they want to do and who they want to start at Quarterback. Obviously, the result will be Favre, because these guys don't necessarily have 3-4 years for A-Rod to learn how to A) Stay healthy, B) gain some experience/not suck

He's already learned how to not suck. He's not going to learn how to stay healthy, he either is going to stay healthy or he won't. This is football for crying out loud. Injuries happen. As far as experience goes, how much experience did Tom Brady or Ben Rothlisberger have before they won thier first SB? Were they groomed for years before becoming the starter? I think Rodgers is as prepared as either of those two were, and the team around him is just as good. I see no reason why good things just can't happen with Rodgers under center.

Equally prepared, sure. Equally talented? Highly unlikely, even if he does eventually become an above average NFL qb. Those guys are bad examples because they're both in the top 6 QBs in the league and rare talents.

That's just it Partial. You don't know that Rodgers isn't a top 6 QB. Neither do I. You are just assuming he isn't because you haven't seen him do it yet. Do you think Steelers fans thought Big Ben was a top 6 QB when he took the reins? How many Patriots fans we're clammoring for Tom Brady, a 6th round draft pick, over Drew Bledsoe in Brady's rookie season? I'm guessing not very many, not until they saw what they could do anyway. How about we hold off judgement until we see what Rodgers can do?

Right, and those quarterbacks defied the overwhelming odds of NOT being a great player.

Certainly the odds are against A-Rod. Maybe he'll be a great player. But I'm unwilling to hedge my super bowl dreams on a weak maybe versus a guaranteed sure bet.

Brett's not a guaranteed sure bet. Nothing is a guarantee. Brett said it himself.

Brett played lights out last year. What reason is there to think he won't do it again? He's in great shape and as healthy as ever. Mort has seen him chuck some "rocket balls" evidently. Favre himself has said he will stop playing when he doesn't have it any more. Clearly, he knows his abilities best and still thinks he can play at an ultra high level.

YES Partial 'of course, young man YOU are correct '.

Brett Favre 'OWNS' his integrity.

PACKERS FOREVER!

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Re: The Packers Are Dropping The Ball

[quote="cpk1994"]

Trade him to the Vikes for a 2 if you're Teddy T and be done with it. If A-Rod is so good and you're so confident that you're moving on, you shouldn't have any fear of being destroyed by the Vikes twice annually.

If you honestly believe this, then you lose tons of credibility. He wont trade a starting QB in the division because he's afraid? That's just stupid P. In every sport you don't assist your rivals in getting better. You don't help a team in your own division get stronger because a player says so. I dont give 2 shits if this was Walter Peyton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders etc. YOU DONT TRADE TO YOUR OWN DIVISION. That should be clear enough for you. You really should stop this line of thinking. Its not gaining you anything.

I agree but as TT drags another one out he will paint himself into a corner. TT just has to get past himself Zool. TT is setting up again to be his own worst enemy.

Brett Favre has played it just right right to date, as REALITY suggests to this Packer fan. Brett Favre is no man's fool. Ted Thompson doesn't do well when the heat is on...he freezes up. We've seen evidence of that time after time.

Brett Favre should advise him again. TT needs to listen for Ted Thompson.

Reality for what ever planet you live on, which isn't earth like the rest of us.[/quote]

cpk1994= same insults ,different thread.

[motife]

If Favre had gotten injured in the Seattle game, how do you think Aaron Rodgers and the team would have played the N.Y. Giants?