Harrell out for Training Camp, Possibly Season.

[bobblehead]

I didn't read every post, forgive me if someone said this. It seems very likely to me at this point that we could benefit from one of the ends like montgomery/hunter/thompson ect to step up or even handle the spot as a rotation so we can move jenkins back inside if necessary.

[Packnut]

Harrell

I don't understand why people are so obsessed about the first round, it's the most overhyped thing in the history of football. First round picks are simply the ones that NFL talent evaluators are more confident of their upside or certain of their production, but championship teams aren't built in the first round. Hell, superstars aren't exclusive to the first round.

Even if we just look at the Packers team of last year: Favre was a second round pick, Ryan Grant was undrafted, Clifton was a second round pick, Tauscher was a seventh round pick, Al Harris was a sixth round pick, Donald Driver was a seventh round pick, Corey Williams was a sixth round pick, etc.

With the notable exception of Barnett, virtually all of our best players from the pre-Thompson era were not first round picks for any team. Most of the first rounders that made the field last year were guys that Thompson brought in (Pickett, Woodson, Hawk), anyway.

If Thompson blows every first round pick he ever makes but drafts well in the next sixth rounds, I'd be happy with that. Worry about the product on the field, not where the guys who step up are drafted. Last year the product on the field was fine, if not excellent. This year, it's too early to tell.

Blowing a 1st rd pick in the top 20 is a huge negative no matter how you sugar coat it. Thompson had the chance to get one of the top 16 players in the country and he blew it plain and simple. Sooner or later the bs excuses have to stop. Harrell's injury history through h.s. and college SHOULD have thrown up a huge red flag.

Harrell is and will continue to be a pretty big dent in the so called Thompson legacy. Sure would have been nice to have that saftey the Jags got that we should have taken. What was his name now? You know, the guy who made the all rookie team. Sure would have turned a position of questions into a position of strength.

[BallHawk]

Harrell will be no more a dent in Ted legacy then Buckley was in Ron Wolf's legacy.

[Freak Out]

Trade Favre for a starting DT and a 2nd.

[BallHawk]

Trade Favre for a starting DT and a 2nd.

I've heard some good things on this Corey Williams guy out of Cleveland.

Anybody know anything about him?

[The Leaper]

Terrell Buckley
Wayne Simmons
George Teague
Aaron Taylor
Craig Newson
John Michels
Ross Verba
Vonnie Holliday
Antuan Edwards
Bubba Franks
Jamal Reynolds

only guy he got to select in the top 10 was Buckley at 5 in 1992

Wolf didn't do horrible in the first...he didn't do great either. His busts were Michels, Edwards and Reynolds...and as was mentioned, many of Wolf's picks were at the end of the first round.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good point, Chevelle.

While the Harrell situation does look kinda bad, nothing is sure at this point. We will be OK either way, though.

The doom and gloom crap above about the badness of the defense is sheer idiocy. Our corners are still among the best--with better depth this year too. Our safeties should be solid. Barnett has become an elite player, and Hawk is ahead of Barnett at the same stage of his career. Kampman should be at least as good as last year. I think if Harrell can't play, Jenkins moves back to tackle. It looks like Jolly will be playing as well as Cole, so that's at least four solid DTs in the rotation (including Pickett. You could say DT was addressed in the draft by getting Thompson--which allows Jenkins to move back inside.

Bottom line is everything will be OK.

[woodbuck27]

When it rains, it pours.

Still, I think the title here is misleading.

No! and too bad ... sad, for this young prospect, at an important position of concern and now even moreso regarding our success in 2008.

and. . . . the LAWS

Karma. Just 'the beginning'. Sadly.

PACKERS FOREVER!

How the hell is this guy still allowed to post here? I havent seen anything actually about football form him, and his posts are barely english.

Typical Woody stuff. Just have to skip past it. As far as the D line situation TT really screwed the pooch with the Corey Williams trade then passing on Jason Taylor. What could of been a position of serious strength has now turned into a serious problem.

imscott72 Yes. How come we saw this coming when we had Corey Williams?

and this imscott72:

What is your liscence or proof of claim as ' a real football fan' and knowledgable 'of all things' Packers and NFL ? I'm seriously interested anxious for your informed response imscott72.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Terrell Buckley
Wayne Simmons
George Teague
Aaron Taylor
Craig Newson
John Michels
Ross Verba
Vonnie Holliday
Antuan Edwards
Bubba Franks
Jamal Reynolds

only guy he got to select in the top 10 was Buckley at 5 in 1992

And Jamal Reynolds. Wolf had two top 10 picks and blew both of them. Wolf sucked! Harrell wasn't even a top 10 pick.

[woodbuck27]

When it rains, it pours.

Still, I think the title here is misleading.

No! and too bad ... sad, for this young prospect, at an important position of concern and now even moreso regarding our success in 2008.

and. . . . the LAWS

Karma. Just 'the beginning'. Sadly.

PACKERS FOREVER!

How the hell is this guy still allowed to post here? I havent seen anything actually about football form him, and his posts are barely english.

That post is certainly and all about the Packers Chevelle2.

Secondly. I might suggest you take a good look at you man. Any fascist or at least predudicial tendencies slipping out of you? Concern? Just concerns?

Arn't you the poster that wants to constantly remind us of Favre's last pass in the last Packer game? Yes doggy. We should tar and feather Favre and seal him in a barrel and run his ass over the Niagra Falls for that blunder that you hang all on him.

hey it's tough. I may not get over TT not bringing in Randy Moss. Wow doesn't that make me a bad Packer fan? I wanted a Super Bowl and Favre and Moss looked encouraging to me. I know we get that bad taste in OUR mouths. Rough.

But you know all about football? All about that pick Chevelle2? I know ! Just like most of us in here. You have a lot to learn. It's the areas of your weakness that gives me a heads up Re: you.

Ever make a mistake and hope you'll be forgiven Chevelle2? I sure have.

You act like the fella that got cut off by his wife for a couple days for behaving badly. Then turns it around. Rejects her and the kids. Let go of that damn pick please. It happened in our last game. It's gone buddy. History and has zero to do with tomorrow. REALITY THERAPY Chevelle2.

Make any sense to you Chevelle2? It should.

One more thing you Packer fan 'of the most' . What do you know that makes you a better / more dedicated Packer fan that I am? I can't wait for your response Chevelle2.

Finally. Since point of origin ie heritage background or the genes we are born of and with. That you and all others do our best to live with. What's
' you and that ' all about Chevelle2?

Out of real interest since we try to be civil or polite to one another at Packerrats. Isn't that all about respect and this is OUR Packer home.

Are you ' of French heritage' by any chance of my observation Chevelle2?
Looking forward to you enlightening moi.

PEACE OUT!

PACKERS FOREVER!

[sharpe1027]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed about the first round, it's the most overhyped thing in the history of football. First round picks are simply the ones that NFL talent evaluators are more confident of their upside or certain of their production, but championship teams aren't built in the first round. Hell, superstars aren't exclusive to the first round.

Even if we just look at the Packers team of last year: Favre was a second round pick, Ryan Grant was undrafted, Clifton was a second round pick, Tauscher was a seventh round pick, Al Harris was a sixth round pick, Donald Driver was a seventh round pick, Corey Williams was a sixth round pick, etc.

With the notable exception of Barnett, virtually all of our best players from the pre-Thompson era were not first round picks for any team. Most of the first rounders that made the field last year were guys that Thompson brought in (Pickett, Woodson, Hawk), anyway.

If Thompson blows every first round pick he ever makes but drafts well in the next sixth rounds, I'd be happy with that. Worry about the product on the field, not where the guys who step up are drafted. Last year the product on the field was fine, if not excellent. This year, it's too early to tell.

My thoughts exactly.

[imscott72]

When it rains, it pours.

Still, I think the title here is misleading.

No! and too bad ... sad, for this young prospect, at an important position of concern and now even moreso regarding our success in 2008.

and. . . . the LAWS

Karma. Just 'the beginning'. Sadly.

PACKERS FOREVER!

How the hell is this guy still allowed to post here? I havent seen anything actually about football form him, and his posts are barely english.

Typical Woody stuff. Just have to skip past it. As far as the D line situation TT really screwed the pooch with the Corey Williams trade then passing on Jason Taylor. What could of been a position of serious strength has now turned into a serious problem.

imscott72 Yes. How come we saw this coming when we had Corey Williams?

and this imscott72:

What is your liscence or proof of claim as ' a real football fan' and knowledgable 'of all things' Packers and NFL ? I'm seriously interested anxious for your informed response imscott72.

I missed the part where I said I was an expert Woody. Feel free to dig it up for us. I give my opinions here just like everyone else. On the other hand you have a knack for calling people out just because they don't all agree with your assessments.