Should the Packers even allow Favre to practice?

[Patler]

I say, no; if it is their intent to trade him.

Clearly they have to add him to the roster, let him in to the facilities, etc. But they do not have to allow him to "practice" even if he is on the field.

If they intend to trade him, and do not intend to keep him on the roster under any circumstance, he should not practice. Letting him practice exposes him to possibly injury and the right to his full salary if it happens.

Then again, for all the conspiracy freaks, maybe they have planned a season-ending injury. Favre gets his money and goes back to Mississippi, never to be heard from again!

[sheepshead]

Do you even give these posts any thought?

[falco]

Do you even give these posts any thought?

of course not - everyone knows patler puts less thought and preparation into his posts than any other poster

[mraynrand]

Re: Should the Packers even allow Favre to practice?

I say, no; if it is their intent to trade him.

Clearly they have to add him to the roster, let him in to the facilities, etc. But they do not have to allow him to "practice" even if he is on the field.

They have to let him use the toilet to relieve himself. But I'm guessing he can't practice since he doesn't have a locker to change at (unless he brings it with him)

[Spaulding]

Based on the recent reports with their being little interest in him at the Packers requested compensation, I'm guessing he ends up joining the roster, being marked as #2 on the depth chart and eventually being allowed to compete for his position.

Ultimately, this may end up being the best thing for the Packers in 2008 if circus like atmosphere can be controlled as it provides depth and a proven QB who can win in the playoffs.

Best QB (likely Favre) wins and if he doesn't commit to M3's controlled traditional West Coast offense and somewhate conservative plays then he gets the hook and Rodgers gets his chance. Ugly PR situation but we end up fielding the best player or the best player for the scheme.

All I know is that it might end polarizing the locker room something fierce and thus potentially negate the above positive.

[mission]

a proven QB who can win in the playoffs.

who's that?

[Patler]

Do you even give these posts any thought?

So is this one of your highly articulate responses that you will criticize me for not responding to, as you did in another thread?

[sheepshead]

no man, its just there are a million reasons why they can not and will not do that. Unless a trade is a done deal, he's under contract. Thus oh jeez..never mind...

[Pacopete4]

of course you let him practice.. there will be no trade, i repeat... no trade... teams will not give up a huge price for the guy so we will have to hold on to him, why not use him?

[hurleyfan]

I'm not sure where this whole mess is going to go

On one hand, I say how can you not take him back (he changed his mind, big deal right!)

On the other hand, hasn't he burned just about all bridges? How do the spin doctors handle this?? No team stepping up with great trade offers..

Gut feel, in the long run, Favre comes to camp and gets to compete(TT & MM keep saying they are doing the best thing for the Packers) for the starting job.. Ofcourse he beats A-Rod for #1 and gets to start.

A-Rod has hurt feelings, but gets to play as Favre reverts to his 2006 form, throws too many INTs and gets pulled..

Brett retires for GOOD at end of year, and his jersey is retired on Monday night Football in 2009!!

[boiga]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3509944
McCarthy added: "The plan for Brett Favre will be discussed first with Brett Favre and then we'll make the public aware of it."

Apparently that are going to try to figure out something Brett will agree to in order to avoid excessive sulking.

So we probably won't know what they are going to do with him until he shows up on the field.


Edit: @Hurley fan: Don't get your hopes up. It seems McCarthy does not want Brett to lead the team this year. No one in the entire organization has the heft to change his mind on that. There will be no competition.

[Pacopete4]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3509944
McCarthy added: "The plan for Brett Favre will be discussed first with Brett Favre and then we'll make the public aware of it."

Apparently that are going to try to figure out something Brett will agree to in order to avoid excessive sulking.

So we probably won't know what they are going to do with him until he shows up on the field.

My guess is that he will get his shot to compete.. that is about the only way there is no bad blood with anyone.. and if he plays well, he gets his spot back and if not... well, thats his own mess then

[Patler]

no man, its just there are a million reasons why they can not and will not do that. Unless a trade is a done deal, he's under contract. Thus oh jeez..never mind...

Can not and will not do what? Not let him practice., or severely limit what he does in practice? Of course they can. Being under contract does not mean they have to let him take practice snaps.

Think back to Cletidus Hunt. It was widely assumed that TT would cut him, for salary and other reasons, but he brought him in to camp anyway. Sure enough, Hunt was injured very early, although it did not seem serious. When TT did cut him, Hunt filed a grievance, and the Packers were stuck with his full salary because he was a vested veteran injured in preseason. Many criticized TT for not cutting him before camp, because he was going to cut him anyway.

The situation is similar with Favre.
IF they know they will not keep him into the season, they should not let him participate fully in practice. Broken hads and fingers happen quite easily with QBs, even without "hitting" taking place. An injury like that to Favre would destroy any reasonable chance to trade him, even if he can arguably play with it.

On the other hand, if you are willing to have him on your roster for game #1 of the regular season, you go ahead an let him practice.

[hurleyfan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3509944
McCarthy added: "The plan for Brett Favre will be discussed first with Brett Favre and then we'll make the public aware of it."

Apparently that are going to try to figure out something Brett will agree to in order to avoid excessive sulking.

So we probably won't know what they are going to do with him until he shows up on the field.


Edit: @Hurley fan: Don't get your hopes up. It seems McCarthy does not want Brett to lead the team this year. No one in the entire organization has the heft to change his mind on that. There will be no competition.

Boiga,
I don't know where to "put my hopes!"

I see the Packer braintrust coming to the realization there is no winners & losers at this point, Brett gets invited to camp for a shot to compete for the starting job.. and from there, anything is possible.

I just hate to see this crap going on in Green Bay.. it's usually reserved for the circus in Dallas or Oakland

[Lurker64]

The Packers are in an odd position because while I believe they would like to trade Favre, I believe that of the 28 NFL teams not in the NFC North, none of them particularly want to trade for Favre.

So I'm not sure what they could do to increase the value and probability of a trade, short of sending people to break Jeff Garcia's legs.