Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

[GrnBay007]

I would cheer for #4, but I have a little less respect for him after how this was handled.

Those who think the team is correct to move on, aren't trying to put little pins into Brett Favre voodoo dolls. Some of us think the melodrama of the last 4 years put Favre before the team. Some think that the title game was just another case of his skills dropping off.

FOR ME, it's the melodrama plus the other factors of using surrogates to do your commentary that appeared to be a bit much or throwing M3 under the bus re: Mooch's non-interview. (not to mention having a separate locker room, etc.).

Favre made mistakes in how he's handled this IMO, but like I've mentioned before who knows how you would handle it if you walked in his shoes.....plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on. As far as him using surrogates to do his commentary, that's not fair. Favre has no control over what his family or friends leak to media....whether it be intentional or by accident.

[Pacopete4]

I would cheer for #4, but I have a little less respect for him after how this was handled.

Those who think the team is correct to move on, aren't trying to put little pins into Brett Favre voodoo dolls. Some of us think the melodrama of the last 4 years put Favre before the team. Some think that the title game was just another case of his skills dropping off.

FOR ME, it's the melodrama plus the other factors of using surrogates to do your commentary that appeared to be a bit much or throwing M3 under the bus re: Mooch's non-interview. (not to mention having a separate locker room, etc.).

Favre made mistakes in how he's handled this IMO, but like I've mentioned before who knows how you would handle it if you walked in his shoes.....plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on. As far as him using surrogates to do his commentary, that's not fair. Favre has no control over what his family or friends leak to media....whether it be intentional or by accident.

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[Harlan Huckleby]

They are going to be motivated by a desire to have a resolution that looks acceptable to the public, and one which Favre is content with.

Why should they even do this? They want Favre retired, and he has to behave like a total bastard to get them to do anything different. I'm not even sure that he's capable of being the kind of nasty cancer that would get him relased. Plus, the Packers could always give him the old Terry Glenn (NE) or Keyshawn Johnson (Tampa) treatment and say, you're on the squad, but stay away. The team really can't look much worse, but Favre could kill his whole endorsement future if he makes it ugly.

Umm, you're absolutely right, they can Glenn him. That may happen, and I am confident they can get away with it. But they still have a long term interest in sprinkling some perfume on this stink. THEY WOULD PREFER TO HELP FAVRE.

[Pacopete4]

haha if they ban him from being a Packer... TT better watch out for his life, and I think he knows that... you dont treat players like a Favre that way

[Bretsky]

IMO they have no interest in helping him; they are interested in getting what they deem to be fair compensation. If they do not get that they will wait. If the deal is not good for them they may milk this out...which is exactly why Favre should come to TC because they'll be more apt to rush things along

[boiga]

I've come to respect Aaron a lot more.

Can you please explain what Rodgers has done to gain so much of your respect? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really interested in knowing.....

Seems to me he held a clipboard, played 2 1/2 quarters in the Dallas game and has been given the starting QB position. I'm sure he's impressed his coach.....but how has he earned your respect?

Rodgers has had every opportunity to bash Favre this off season. He could have been a cocky brat threatening the organization if they let Favre back in. He could have whined to the media, etc..... But he didn't. He's been a saint through all of this, which certainly encourages you to root for the guy.

Also, those two and half quarters were pretty awesome, so we at least know the guy has potential. He also is looking decent in camp, throwing long bombs occasionally and not making too many mistakes. If he were a Rex or Tarvaris... my sentiments would likely be very different.

[Harlan Huckleby]

plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on.

What do think about Favre taking his private phone conversation with TT, and misrepresenting to the media TT's "they'll fire me if you show up in Green Bay" non-remark? Is that out of Favre's control too?

[texaspackerbacker]

Dear Mark Murphy,

I have little to no trust in you, who I hardly know, or the guys that you say are so diligently trying to move me.

I am coming to camp and I know it's going to be uncomfortable, but it's the only way I know if that will put a rush on your desire...if that is what you care to call it...to move me.

I've given you a few days and for every day you sit on your ass and don't make something happen, my ability to play is lessened.

So tell the Turtle to get something down or give me a release.

Thanks for coming, don't let the door hit you in the ass, and I'll see you tomorrow in Green Bay.

Dear Brett Favre;

I don't give a rats ass if you trust me or not. We own you until we say we don't. That's a fact.

If you had half a brain in your head you would know deals like this can't be made in a couple days. They take time, yours will too.

How's you penmanship? When you get to GB you will be holding a clipboard and taking notes, and playing about as much as you did in Atlanta.

We can take the heat and weather the storm. Come if you must, but it will not change anything. We can't trade you until someone wants you, and right now no one does.

See you in Green Bay.

This is very similar to what I was gonna say--a sensible post in a sea of laughable ones. It's just weird how some of you people can get so panicky or how you can hang on every little detail of the mess that this story is.

I would treat Brett with a little more tact than Patler's letter, though, because I honestly don't see him as having bad intentions or calling the Packers bluff, or whatever. I think the celebrated attitude of an 8 year old kid that manifested itself in enthusiasm when he was playing is now manifesting itself in naivete.

Why can you people not just take Thompson at his word that there's no way he will release Favre? Why can't you people just take Favre at his word that he doesn't want to play for the AFC or Tampa or whatever? Why must you people read trouble into the scenario of Favre just thinking it over and saying OK to coming back as a backup? Why can't you people accept the word of Rodgers and a bunch of other players that there won't be anything but normalcy if Brett comes to camp? Why do some of you people fantasize some weird under-the-table deal ending up with something happening that is completely contrary to stated positions? And most of all, WHY do you people think you know more than Thompson, McCarthy, probably a solid majority of players, etc. who clearly believe the team is better off moving forward with Rodgers and ruling out Favre as a starter?

take heed; lord almighty himself has spoken to YOU people...haha

You got that right, Mobb. Welcome here. It seems like nobody remembers you or is acknowledging you from JSOnline. I remember you.

There is a helluva lot of middle ground between the Favre-worship of some who think he should still start or whatever, and the Favre-hate (or close to it) being expressed by others.

I really don't think he is seemingly reporting to camp to become a cancer and force a trade or release or whatever. I think he just thought it over and decided that getting $12 million to be a backup and hang around with his buddies on the way to the Super Bowl ain't such a bad idea. And that's not even saying that the money is all that big a deal. I think Favre is just a very unsophisticated guy who has been pulled and twisted in several different directions, and who just has a simple goal of being back on field with the guys he knows so well in any capacity that is there for him. I also wouldn't be surprised if a persuasive discussion with Murphy could talk him out of the whole thing, and let him fade back into retirement--the absolute best case scenario here.

[packers11]

If I was Rodgers I would go to MM/TT and tell them I would accept Favre back as a starter for all that he meant to the organization... He would be an INSTANT FAN FAVORITE / MEDIA LOVED PLAYER.

I mean, if it wasn't for Favre you could pretty much say he would be in Alex Smith's situation... Thrown right into the fire and turn out to be a bust...

But I live in the most optimistic world...

It would never happen...

[Pacopete4]

plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on.

What do think about Favre taking his private phone conversation with TT, and misrepresenting to the media TT's "they'll fire me if you show up in Green Bay" non-remark? Is that out of Favre's control too?

How do you know he misrepresented TT's comment about getting him fired?... Maybe TT is the one covering that up cuz he looks weak if he actually said it... you are way to one sided in this whole mess Harlan...

[digitaldean]

haha if they ban him from being a Packer... TT better watch out for his life, and I think he knows that... you dont treat players like a Favre that way

See.. it's posts like this that are completely nonsensical.

For those who have voice opposition towards Favre's approach, no one has once stated Favre better "watch out for his life".

Please think a little bit more before typing crap like that and clicking the "submit" button.

[bobblehead]

I really don't have a problem with Brett looking out for Brett first... cuz isn't that what the team is doing? or so TT says?

The team is putting itself above an individual, that's what teams are supposed to do. The player is putting himself above his team, that's not what players are supposed to do.

He is under contract, therefore by putting himself first in this manner he is no better then JWalk, or TO or anyone who doesn't want to honor his contract. when he retired he forced the team to move on, anything he does other than return to the team under their terms is selfish in the manner of a chad johnson. If he were a FA I would have no problem with him putting himself completely first in every way...he isn't so he is being an ass.

Bobble... it is different because he is being told not to come to his team, the team that he is contracted by... thats why he is looking out for himself...

But its not different, cuz he is not helping us trade him. He is not talking to the jets or tampa. He wants his RELEASE so he can play with minnesota.

I originally wasn't on him too bad and I predicted they would have bus seek a trade for him, but he doesn't want that, he wants to play for our rivals so he can stick it to TT like a spoiled kid who got told no.

[GrnBay007]

To start, he's been excellent with the media. He hasn't disrespected Brett or expressed frustration at the situation. He says repeatedly "Brett will do what Brett will do. I am the starting QB of the Packers and I intend on winning football games."

C'mon Ballhawk, he's been excellent with the media because during this media circus he's been told how to respond....count on it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

IMO they have no interest in helping him; they are interested in getting what they deem to be fair compensation.

I think you greatly underestimate the appreciation the organization has for what Brett Favre has contributed. I have no doubt that TT gives a lot of priority to accomodating Favre, he is looking for a long term happy relationship with the icon, if possible.

[Pacopete4]

haha if they ban him from being a Packer... TT better watch out for his life, and I think he knows that... you dont treat players like a Favre that way

See.. it's posts like this that are completely nonsensical.

For those who have voice opposition towards Favre's approach, no one has once stated Favre better "watch out for his life".

Please think a little bit more before typing crap like that and clicking the "submit" button.

if you couldnt tell by the haha, it more said as people would go insane over the matter... I wouldn't kill TT if that makes you feel better aha I might like to punch him in the gut though