Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

[Harlan Huckleby]

plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on.

What do think about Favre taking his private phone conversation with TT, and misrepresenting to the media TT's "they'll fire me if you show up in Green Bay" non-remark? Is that out of Favre's control too?

How do you know he misrepresented TT's comment about getting him fired?... Maybe TT is the one covering that up cuz he looks weak if he actually said it... you are way to one sided in this whole mess Harlan...

Paco, why would TT say that he might get fired, why would he confide in Favre? And Favre went on to say that TT was "shaken."

This is simply ridiculous. If you believe this one, you probably believe that the U.S. really landed on the moon.

(BTW, the explanation that has dribbled out of the packer office is that TT joked that he would be fired if he ever released FAvre. Now, isn't that a 1000 times more credible?)

[GrnBay007]

plus NONE of us know, or will ever know, all the behind the scene dealings/conversations that went on.

What do think about Favre taking his private phone conversation with TT, and misrepresenting to the media TT's "they'll fire me if you show up in Green Bay" non-remark? Is that out of Favre's control too?

How do you know he misrepresented TT's comment about getting him fired?... Maybe TT is the one covering that up cuz he looks weak if he actually said it... you are way to one sided in this whole mess Harlan...

OR maybe it was said jokingly and the media just forgot to mention that part of it.

And I could throw back to you, why didn't TT settle the cell phone business right away......he sat on the info that Favre NEVER had a Packer cell phone.

[Pacopete4]

Harlan.. thats not the point I was making. The point I was making is that youre just believing everything TT says and EVERYTHING Brett has said is a complete lie... it takes twoooooo baaaaaaaaaby, its taaaaaaaake twwwwwwooooo baaaaaaaaaaaby!

[Harlan Huckleby]

OR maybe it was said jokingly and the media just forgot to mention that part of it.

Uhh, no. it was obviously part of a joke, but the quote came directly from Favre, he says it on video tape.

This is worse than Hillary's Bosnian Snipers whopper.

[BallHawk]

To start, he's been excellent with the media. He hasn't disrespected Brett or expressed frustration at the situation. He says repeatedly "Brett will do what Brett will do. I am the starting QB of the Packers and I intend on winning football games."

C'mon Ballhawk, he's been excellent with the media because during this media circus he's been told how to respond....count on it.

Yes, I know the team has told him to keep it cool....that's common sense.

However, it would be easy, after 100s of questions to just snap and really give the media something to misconstrue...much worse than the "shut up" comment.

Even you could admit, anybody could admit, Aaron could not of handled this better. The team can tell you one thing, but it's down to Aaron to perform in those interviews. He's done that.

[packers11]

so if Murphy's attempt fails...

Is he (Favre) in GB Wednesday night???

Or Friday???

because they have no practice on Thursday...

[Harlan Huckleby]

so if Murphy's attempt fails...

Is in GB Wednesday night???

Or Friday???

because they have no practice on Thursday...

No way he is there before Friday, Goodell will take a day, then the Packers have a day to respond.

[mraynrand]

I really don't think he is seemingly reporting to camp to become a cancer and force a trade or release or whatever. I think he just thought it over and decided that getting $12 million to be a backup and hang around with his buddies on the way to the Super Bowl ain't such a bad idea.

I don't really think Favre has 'being a cancer' in him. But if he wants out, he has to try to force the Packer's hand. But I can't imagine for a second that Favre would be content to ride the pine, hangin' with his buds, to collect a ring. Who are his buddies anyway? Virtually no one on the team. His best friend is the trainer in the locker room. Favre being a backup just doesn't fit his personality or anything he's ever said about his playing mentality.

[Pacopete4]

Friday seems more likely

[GrnBay007]

IMO they have no interest in helping him; they are interested in getting what they deem to be fair compensation.

I think you greatly underestimate the appreciation the organization has for what Brett Favre has contributed. I have no doubt that TT gives a lot of priority to accomodating Favre, he is looking for a long term happy relationship with the icon, if possible.

Wow! No, HH the organization is not showing appreciation for Favre. How can they be showing him respect and appreciation by not allowing him to come to camp and compete for a starting position? It's just crazy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harlan.. thats not the point I was making. The point I was making is that youre just believing everything TT says and EVERYTHING Brett has said is a complete lie... it takes twoooooo baaaaaaaaaby, its taaaaaaaake twwwwwwooooo baaaaaaaaaaaby!

I started out being pretty unbiased. I have grown increasingly supportive of the boss men, and perhaps I can no longer be fair. But I got here from an objective analysis of the facts.

So feel free to dismiss from here on out.

[mraynrand]

IMO they have no interest in helping him; they are interested in getting what they deem to be fair compensation.

I think you greatly underestimate the appreciation the organization has for what Brett Favre has contributed. I have no doubt that TT gives a lot of priority to accomodating Favre, he is looking for a long term happy relationship with the icon, if possible.

I'm sure TT appreciated Favre calling him a liar on a national cable program. Probably made him feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Should make TT want to keep up that happy relationship.

[boiga]

OR maybe it was said jokingly and the media just forgot to mention that part of it.

And I could throw back to you, why didn't TT settle the cell phone business right away......he sat on the info that Favre NEVER had a Packer cell phone.

Here's what Glazer said about the"you'll get me fired" incident.

In fact, those same sources say that GM Ted Thompson never told Favre he'd get fired for letting him back in the building. Instead, he joked that even the people who don't want Brett back would want him fired if he released the famed gunslinger.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8387530

You should read the full article, it's the best summation of our situation that I've read. Also, the Packers did officially report that the don't offer cell phones to players the day after the rumor started. It's just that no on listened to them.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wow! No, HH the organization is not showing appreciation for Favre. How can they be showing him respect and appreciation by not allowing him to come to camp and compete for a starting position? It's just crazy.

It's true they don't want him to play on the Packers anymore. They feel the same way about Bart Starr, BTW, and I think he is still held in pretty high regard.

[mraynrand]

IMO they have no interest in helping him; they are interested in getting what they deem to be fair compensation.

I think you greatly underestimate the appreciation the organization has for what Brett Favre has contributed. I have no doubt that TT gives a lot of priority to accomodating Favre, he is looking for a long term happy relationship with the icon, if possible.

Wow! No, HH the organization is not showing appreciation for Favre. How can they be showing him respect and appreciation by not allowing him to come to camp and compete for a starting position? It's just crazy.

No kidding. They're playing extreme hardball with Favre. They want him retired and out of GB and it looks very much like they're willing to take a 12 mil hit to keep it that way.