Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

[The Leaper]

It becomes increasingly clear to me that the best way to put an end to this fiasco is to trade Favre - to Minnesota.

TT is wrong to flat out reject that possibility.

I agree.

The only way to get the maximum compensation for Favre is to ship Favre where he wants to go and to where they really want Favre.

Thompson and McCarthy painted themselves into this corner when they decided to "move on" without a guy who they had to figure was going to get the "itch" and try to come back. Did they really think Favre was just going to roll over and be their bitch?

I don't think the Packer braintrust really thought this entire thing through when they made their decision to "move on".

[Fritz]

I don't think they could have predicted it would go this way - but who could? I do think they thought this through.

[The Leaper]

I don't think they could have predicted it would go this way - but who could? I do think they thought this through.

I knew it was going this way.

When he retired the first time, I pointed out there was no way he was going to remain retired when he admitted he still had the ability to play and cried like a baby at his presser.

I was nearly laughed off the forum for it...but I was 100% right, and it was easy to see IMO. A guy at peace with his decision doesn't cry like a baby...he had a phenominal career and went out on a relative high note. A guy who is truly retiring usually doesn't admit that he has gas left in the tank.

The fact Favre changed his mind a few weeks later would even have been a larger red flag to the Packers IMO.

There is no way you can convince me that the Packers somehow could not have predicted this.

[Fritz]

Then I won't bother to try.

[The Leaper]

Then I won't bother to try.

Well, you can try for other people who may be riding the fence.

[texaspackerbacker]

I really don't think he is seemingly reporting to camp to become a cancer and force a trade or release or whatever. I think he just thought it over and decided that getting $12 million to be a backup and hang around with his buddies on the way to the Super Bowl ain't such a bad idea.

I don't really think Favre has 'being a cancer' in him. But if he wants out, he has to try to force the Packer's hand. But I can't imagine for a second that Favre would be content to ride the pine, hangin' with his buds, to collect a ring. Who are his buddies anyway? Virtually no one on the team. His best friend is the trainer in the locker room. Favre being a backup just doesn't fit his personality or anything he's ever said about his playing mentality.

I disagree with the part about being a backup not fitting his personality. It fits his personality a lot more than being a troublemaker or cancer.

I think Favre is a very suggestive or impressionable person. People always said he played with the enthusiasm of an 8 year old kid. Well, he's like that 8 year old kid in other ways too. Present it to him in a nice positive way, and he can be fairly easily convinced--just like he was fairly easily convinced into an irrational retirement and an equally irrational un-retirement. I'd rather Murphy be successful in convincing him to stay retired and wait in case of a Rodgers injury, though.

[prsnfoto]

Absolutely why FAVRE should show up
Why should Favre trust them to make a deal in good faith

Does it hurt Favre if it takes a few weeks ? ABSOLUTELY. But Green Bay does not care. Which is why Favre should show up or continue to request his release.

THIS IS GOING TO GET UGLY

By showing up he will not make them trade him any faster. It will just get more uncomfortable for everyone, including Favre.

The Packers have no choice but to eventually move him by trade or release. It will happen when the Packers find the deal adequate, or at the final cutdown. Favre will not change that by coming to GB.

Right but by coming to camp he can show other teams he is committed and healthy and when the jackass TT does cut him he can be snatched up by a team that has injuries or the Vikings, a QB with Favre's exp. can play very quickly don't let the haters fool you, Favre with two weeks in a system is better than TJ or Grossman with ten years.

[GBRulz]

I'm not sure how I missed this story. If this is true, how can Murphy make Favre sit in MS and not allow him into camp without the NFL players union getting involved?

This is just going from bad to ugly. I'm at the point where if they don't want him, just let him go already. Wherever he lands up, he lands up. Just end this crap NOW!!

[mmmdk]

I'm not sure how I missed this story. If this is true, how can Murphy make Favre sit in MS and not allow him into camp without the NFL players union getting involved?

This is just going from bad to ugly. I'm at the point where if they don't want him, just let him go already. Wherever he lands up, he lands up. Just end this crap NOW!!

I understand what you're saying; I'm not at that point...yet.

[GBRulz]

I'm not sure how I missed this story. If this is true, how can Murphy make Favre sit in MS and not allow him into camp without the NFL players union getting involved?

This is just going from bad to ugly. I'm at the point where if they don't want him, just let him go already. Wherever he lands up, he lands up. Just end this crap NOW!!

I understand what you're saying; I'm not at that point...yet.

Reading this story was kind of the last straw for me. M3 can say this isn't distracting to our camp, blah blah blah, but how can it not be??

Favre wants to play for GB. The Packers don't want him back. The Packers won't allow him to compete for the starting job, nor does he think he should have to compete for it. Murphy is in MS telling him to stay home. Oh yeah, yesterday M3 said we will welcome him back into the locker room. uggggg

While I absolutely agree that I don't like how Favre handled this whole thing, I guess I expected better from the Packers, too.

[The Leaper]

While I absolutely agree that I don't like how Favre handled this whole thing, I guess I expected better from the Packers, too.

Both sides have made their share of mistakes...which is why things are about to get ugly.

[cpk1994]

I'm not sure how I missed this story. If this is true, how can Murphy make Favre sit in MS and not allow him into camp without the NFL players union getting involved?

This is just going from bad to ugly. I'm at the point where if they don't want him, just let him go already. Wherever he lands up, he lands up. Just end this crap NOW!!

I understand what you're saying; I'm not at that point...yet.

Reading this story was kind of the last straw for me. M3 can say this isn't distracting to our camp, blah blah blah, but how can it not be??

Favre wants to play for GB. The Packers don't want him back. The Packers won't allow him to compete for the starting job, nor does he think he should have to compete for it. Murphy is in MS telling him to stay home. Oh yeah, yesterday M3 said we will welcome him back into the locker room. uggggg

While I absolutely agree that I don't like how Favre handled this whole thing, I guess I expected better from the Packers, too.

Again, I want to see your proof where Murphy is going to tell Brett to stay home. All you have is the unsubstantiated claims by the media.

[The Leaper]

I want to see your proof where Murphy is going to tell Brett to stay home. All you have is the unsubstantiated claims by the media.

I want to see your proof that he is going down there to sip tea and tell Brett that he will be welcome in Green Bay, especially when the coach just said as much publically.

Why the need for the plane ride down to Mississippi?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Personally, I believe that Murphy is done sitting on the sidelines and decided to jump into the fray himself and hear directly from Favre face to face what is going on in his head. Just has to hear it from the horse's mouth.

[cpk1994]

I want to see your proof where Murphy is going to tell Brett to stay home. All you have is the unsubstantiated claims by the media.

I want to see your proof that he is going down there to sip tea and tell Brett that he will be welcome in Green Bay, especially when the coach just said as much publically.

Why the need for the plane ride down to Mississippi?

Do I have to quote Lurkers post again? That is as good an explanation for why he is going down there. Anyway, I don't know what he is going to say, but Im not the one trying to present what I think hes going to say as fact or take the medias word as gospel, which you are doing becuase it fits your agenda.