20 million dollar question

[The Leaper]

So of course he can do what he wants. But he's asking for the kind of special treatment that no other player in the NFL would get. I have no sympathy for the man at this point. Not that he needs mine. But that's how I feel.

I have no sympathy for Green Bay. They've chosen their plan...and refused to really consider the ramifications of it. Thus, we have $20M buyout plans and the commissioner delaying Favre's activation so Green Bay can scramble for a plan B.

Both sides have fucked this up beyond reason. It is embarrassing.

[Pugger]

Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, guys. Remember last week and the cell phone story that turned out to be bunk? God, I can't wait until this issue is resolved....

[Dabaddestbear]

i stand by my point that the only way this occured is if Murphy is in way over his head.....

you have to imagine that releasing favre or trading him to the vikings would be better for everyone than paying him to sit home when he wants to play

Sounds like the GM is willing to pay to save his ego. By the way, how do the shareholders feel that their GM is willing to pay a player to "NOT PLAY" just to save his ego from being bruised?

[sharpe1027]

Why the hell would Favre want to work for an organization that is preventing him from a guaranteed starting position?

You are incorrect Sharpe.

Favre asked if he coming back to COMPETE was an option. Green Bay said no.

Make no mistake. Green Bay's position right now is to do everything possible to keep Favre from playing football anywhere in 2008, including offering $20M buyouts.

I think you are overstating their position. I've never seen a quote that explictly said Favre cannot compete. I believe Favre said something to the effect of you know I'll win the job and they replied that Rodgers is their QB. It seems to me that Favre implied that he was guranteed to win any competition and they didn't agree.

[The Leaper]

It seems to me that Favre implied that he was guranteed to win any competition and they didn't agree.

I'm guessing Favre is confident in his abilities...and the Packers know there will be no competition.

[bobblehead]

Sounds like, if just playing football is Favre's real desire, he has that oppportunity. He is just choosing to not play for those teams, one of whom was a playoff team last year.

Favre has the right to do what is necessary to get where he wants to be at this point IMO. Both sides are playing hardball...you can't sit here and say that Favre should operate with one hand tied behind his back.

He has the right to refuse to talk to someone...just as Green Bay has the right to trade him wherever they want to right now.

So why isn't Green Bay just trading him to Oakland for a pair of shoes to be done with it?

and JWalk had every right to do what is necessarty to get where/what he wanted.

[The Leaper]

and JWalk had every right to do what is necessarty to get where/what he wanted.

Different scenario. Walker was under contract and the Packers WANTED him to participate.

As of yet, Favre isn't an active player...and the Packers DO NOT WANT him to participate.

[Chevelle2]

and JWalk had every right to do what is necessarty to get where/what he wanted.

Different scenario. Walker was under contract and the Packers WANTED him to participate.

As of yet, Favre isn't an active player...and the Packers DO NOT WANT him to participate.

And the player works for the team. Not the other way around.

[bobblehead]

It seems to me that Favre implied that he was guranteed to win any competition and they didn't agree.

I'm guessing Favre is confident in his abilities...and the Packers know there will be no competition.

and again I ask...what if they compete and MM values less turnovers enough that he declares rodgers the winner...would you ever accept that or would you then declare it was a fixed competition from the start?? Offering said "competition" is a no win for MM.

[bobblehead]

and JWalk had every right to do what is necessarty to get where/what he wanted.

Different scenario. Walker was under contract and the Packers WANTED him to participate.

As of yet, Favre isn't an active player...and the Packers DO NOT WANT him to participate.

Not entirely true...we would be glad to have him show up HONOR HIS CONTRACT, and be a solid veteran backup that is thinking of the team first...he wants to show up under his terms...much like JWalk wanted to show up for a bigger contract.

[sharpe1027]

It seems to me that Favre implied that he was guranteed to win any competition and they didn't agree.

I'm guessing Favre is confident in his abilities...and the Packers know there will be no competition.

I guess. I just know if I were in their position and I felt that Rodgers was the better option, after hearing that from Favre, I would have said something similiar. He needs to know up front that you don't expect him to start or there will be bigger problems down the road, IMO anyway.

We should know more soon enough. Once he reports how they deal with him will say alot.

[sharpe1027]

As of yet, Favre isn't an active player...and the Packers DO NOT WANT him to participate.

By that logic, there is also nothing wrong with anything the Packers have done up until he becomes an active player. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

[The Leaper]

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

I agree.

My points were relating to those who were critical of Favre for what he was doing. My contention is that both sides have the right to play hardball.

[ND72]

Re: 20 million dollar question

I think it would be very likely that murph offered favre a 20 million dollar 10 year deal to "work for the packers in a number of ways" kinda deal. You know, we don't want you to be our QB, but we feel you deserve the payout and would like to keep you with the organization kinda deal.

This would be far different than a bribe to stay home, and seems the only reasonable thing that I can imagine that would have occurred.

I don't know if it was stated yet, but I just saw on NFL Network that this "$20 Million Dollar Deal" was offered to Brett the day he retired. Let me repeat that for all the people who don't catch on, it was offered to him the day he retired. It was an incentives package thanking him for his time, and to pay him for future "works", ie, appearences, he would make for the Green Bay Packers. While down in Mississippi, Mark Murphy simply reminded him of that offer, and that it still stood. Both times, in March, and now, they were refused. In March, as reported, Favre refused it because he told Ted Thompson, "If I leave, I really dont' want to be reminded of what I walked away from."

And there you go...take it as you want it.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: 20 million dollar question

I think it would be very likely that murph offered favre a 20 million dollar 10 year deal to "work for the packers in a number of ways" kinda deal. You know, we don't want you to be our QB, but we feel you deserve the payout and would like to keep you with the organization kinda deal.

This would be far different than a bribe to stay home, and seems the only reasonable thing that I can imagine that would have occurred.

I don't know if it was stated yet, but I just saw on NFL Network that this "$20 Million Dollar Deal" was offered to Brett the day he retired. Let me repeat that for all the people who don't catch on, it was offered to him the day he retired. It was an incentives package thanking him for his time, and to pay him for future "works", ie, appearences, he would make for the Green Bay Packers. While down in Mississippi, Mark Murphy simply reminded him of that offer, and that it still stood. Both times, in March, and now, they were refused. In March, as reported, Favre refused it because he told Ted Thompson, "If I leave, I really dont' want to be reminded of what I walked away from."

And there you go...take it as you want it.

This makes more sense. If it's true, then the Favre camp should once again be embarrassed about leaking information meant to embarrass the orgainzation. If it's not true, it's a stupid idea by the Packers organization (likely, the executive committee).