Big Ben=Big Bang

[Fosco33]

I haven't been to a Brewer game in like 4 years. Do they still bring out pitchers from the bullpen on a Harley? Do those guys where helmets?

[MadtownPacker]

Big Ben was tonto loco.

How's that Madtown?

Yup, "crazy dummy", thats what he is for risking mega $$$$.

[Packers4Ever]

These GM's in the NFL need to watch the movie The Program. Star QB loves his motorcycle but you need to TAKE IT AWAY. These kids have been pampered and given everything on a silver plater they NEED some father figures to tell them you can and cant do certain things.

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My husband was under the impression the NFL
used contracts stating certain conditions or
instances being forbidden to players. Haven't verified this.
I hope Ben will be ok and recover rapidly, plain old common
sense would probably have prevented this injury.

Brett doesn't ride cycle, does he ????
Jude

[MJZiggy]

Not that I've seen, but from what I've heard, I sure wouldn't want to get in a car with him driving. *white knuckles*

[billy_oliver880]

motorcyclist = organ donor!

Not every motorcyclist is out there driving like an idiot. I wear full leathers and a full face helmet and I do not do dangerous manuvers on my motorcycle. Suzuki decided that Ben needed a Hayabusa. It is a promotional stunt. Put the football star on the most recognizable model and it will sell motorcycles. No one ever thought that its necessary to think of the riders abilities...or inablilities. The Hayabusa is the fastest production bike on the road. At 1300 CCs the engine is also one of the largest and has some huge horsepower. In one of the articles it states that the hayabusa is popular with first time motorcycle buyers. Who in their right mind would sell someone a bike that is hard to handle to a beginner is beyond me. This country needs a graduated motorcycle licence system in place. Much like japan. All of the optional helmet laws need to be amended as well. I get real sick of all the SQUIDS ruining the sport that I love.

[billy_oliver880]

The facts are also pretty clear that low fat diets extend lives and that obesity shortens lives. Should the government be able to mandate what we eat or how much we weigh?

Should the government intrude on and regulate other dangerous pastimes like mountain climbing, rock climbing, etc. etc.?

I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and would not now ride without a helmet, although I did when I was younger. I feel everyone SHOULD wear a helmet. However, I have never been comfortable with the government regulating to protect us from ourselves. Government should protect us from others, not from ourselves.

I agree to. But I also beleive that people sometimes will not listen to reason. If every motorcyclist understood what happens to you when you have massive head trama then we wouldn't have to worry about it. Alot of people will not wear helmets because they aren't comfortable. Alot of people will wear the skull cap helmets out of spite for the laws in their area. True be told these helmets are better then nothing but then again the majority of impacts happen towards the front of a helmet. That is why I wear a full face helmet at all times.

[MJZiggy]

If every motorcyclist understood what happens to you when you have massive head trama then we wouldn't have to worry about it. Alot of people will not wear helmets because they aren't comfortable. Alot of people will wear the skull cap helmets out of spite for the laws in their area. True be told these helmets are better then nothing but then again the majority of impacts happen towards the front of a helmet.

Is the trouble that people don't understand what can happen, or do they understand and just think that it wouldn't happen to them. I think there are a lot of people out there who fall into the latter category.

[billy_oliver880]

If every motorcyclist understood what happens to you when you have massive head trama then we wouldn't have to worry about it. Alot of people will not wear helmets because they aren't comfortable. Alot of people will wear the skull cap helmets out of spite for the laws in their area. True be told these helmets are better then nothing but then again the majority of impacts happen towards the front of a helmet.

Is the trouble that people don't understand what can happen, or do they understand and just think that it wouldn't happen to them. I think there are a lot of people out there who fall into the latter category.

Well I always wonder what these guys are thinking when they pull up beside me with shorts, tank top, and sandals on. With no helmet of course. I don't think these people fell down on the playground when they were little.

[Guiness]

Wow - just read this thread. Insane.

Brett doesn't ride cycle, does he ????
Jude

Nope. As long as he doesn't start racing Bob Vila on the lawn tractor, we're ok!

BTW BillyO - I see that as well, and think it's insane. The other day I saw a woman shifting gears on a GSX-R750 with heels

[GrnBay007]

What a horrible thing to happen. He'll be waking up tomorrow feeling like he was sacked at least 300 times! Lets keep him in our thoughts and/or prayers for a speedy and full recovery.

[esoxx]

In my younger days I rode motorcycle all the time, and NEVER with a helmet. Hell, I even wore sunglasses at night (Cory Hart) when riding b/c you HAD to have eyewear at least. If I were going anywhere on my bike I had to "look cool." Cruisin' in the summer was a blast, including bar hopping on the bikes.

Well, that was all pretty stupid of course. But now, as Al Bundy made famous, "I'm married with children." I would never think of such behavior. I still have my bike but haven't rode in 10 years. I may again some day but I'll definitely wear a helmet and not be so dumb.

Still, my best friend, who I used to cruise with still rides many miles. He's also married with children. What makes me almost physically ill is he insists on riding w/o a helmet....and here's the worst part...he insists his wife do the same. I've pleaded until I'm blue in the face, even pulling his wife aside on multiple occasions to beg her to at least wear the helmet. They have a 10 year old girl and 6 year old boy. Please at least think of them. But to no avail. You have to realize my friend is very "into himself" and has a trophy wife (as do I ), and as one of the articles posted mentioned, he's trying to re-live his younger days. Pretty shallow and pathetic I know. Hopefully Ben's accident will shake him to reality, but I know it won't. Sad really.

[MJZiggy]

What a horrible thing to happen. He'll be waking up tomorrow feeling like he was sacked at least 300 times! Lets keep him in our thoughts and/or prayers for a speedy and full recovery.

I don't want to. I want that road rash to burn like hell for months and he head to throb mercilessly and make it hard to think straight for awhile. I want them to tell him he can't have his teeth back just yet as they'll have to wait a few weeks for the swelling to go down and I want him eating through a straw through his wired-shut jaw for at least 6 weeks. I wouldn't EVER wish someone to go through that except to make absolutely sure that they think LONG and HARD about ever getting on a bike again without a helmet. He's a very public figure and maybe if he becomes the poster boy for what can happen a couple more people will put on helmets and their lives will be spared.

[Scott Campbell]

The facts are also pretty clear that low fat diets extend lives and that obesity shortens lives. Should the government be able to mandate what we eat or how much we weigh?

Should the government intrude on and regulate other dangerous pastimes like mountain climbing, rock climbing, etc. etc.?

I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and would not now ride without a helmet, although I did when I was younger. I feel everyone SHOULD wear a helmet. However, I have never been comfortable with the government regulating to protect us from ourselves. Government should protect us from others, not from ourselves.

When the young uninsured rider who decides against wearing a helmet comes rolling into the ER on a stretcher, should we then just let him die? Or do we have to open our collective wallets to pitch in for his stupidity?

Just playing devils advocate here, as I'm against legislating common sense too.

[Scott Campbell]

i'm sorry, but IMO you are not a safe and responsible rider if you are driving THAT bike

and to not wear a helmet on that rocket is just plain stupid

I agree Red, you know when you think about it, the steelers should probably sue, shouldn't they?

I'd be surprised if there wasn't some kind of standard dangerous behavior clause in his contract. I think Winslow had one and I know Jay Williams had one.

[billy_oliver880]

BTW BillyO - I see that as well, and think it's insane. The other day I saw a woman shifting gears on a GSX-R750 with heels

What are people thinking?