Grant wants 40 million...

[DonHutson]

Grant is letting his agent make him appear to be the reicarnation of Javon Walker.

That's pushing it. Walker decided the contract he signed wasn't good enough. Grant is not under contract. He can't go anywhere else, but he's not under contract. And Grant does deserve more than the minimum tender the Packers offered.

Grant is in a unique scenario as an older inexperienced player who's had some success. I don't blame him for wanting to get a decent contract now because he'll be pushing the end of his prime years by the time he's an unrestricted free agent. But he has nowhere else to go and if he doesn't want to push FA off another year he'll need to get something done.

I predict they'll bicker for another couple of weeks then it will come to a rapid conclusion two weeks before the regular season.

[LL2]

NB, I don't know if Jackson gives us the best chance to win, but with the way Grant's contract negotiations have dragged on, even as all the rookies have signed and are in camp, it's looking VERY likely that BJ will be the starter come opening night.

I wouldn't have a problem with Jackson being the starter. He was starting to figure things out and getting a running game at the end of the season last year. Very few rookie RB's have a great rookie year. Jackson could have a great year and leave Grant wishing he took the contract he was offered. If Grant does hold out and Jackson has a good first few games Grant will probably sign the one year tender and report so he can get another year of credit under his belt.

I will say this...Jackson does look bigger and like he has more power this year.

[Bretsky]

NB, I don't know if Jackson gives us the best chance to win, but with the way Grant's contract negotiations have dragged on, even as all the rookies have signed and are in camp, it's looking VERY likely that BJ will be the starter come opening night.

I wouldn't have a problem with Jackson being the starter. He was starting to figure things out and getting a running game at the end of the season last year. Very few rookie RB's have a great rookie year. Jackson could have a great year and leave Grant wishing he took the contract he was offered. If Grant does hold out and Jackson has a good first few games Grant will probably sign the one year tender and report so he can get another year of credit under his belt.

I will say this...Jackson does look bigger and like he has more power this year.

He did great against the Giants


Bring Back Grant

[The Gunshooter]

Don't forget Morency is healthy this year and if everyone else picks it up a little they can do without Grant if they have to. I just don't believe you can let the players force you to give them whatever they want. A 500% raise is not good enough for Grant? I say fock 'em.

[texaspackerbacker]

Pay the man already!

Those of you thinking Brandon Jackson is and acceptable replacement must be blind. Jackson is decent, maybe even capable of being a slightly above average starter. Grant is extraordinary. The burst that he showed last year sets him apart from all but a small hand full of backs in the NFL. The extremely bright immediate future of the Packers gets a whole lot dimmer if Grant isn't there.

$40 million spread over six years is NOT outlandish at all. Neither is guaranteeing $5-10 million of it. There are clearlly lesser players already making that much, and with increase over time, that amount will seem cheap.

Waiting a year or signing him now for just 2 or 3 or whatever would NOT be wise at all. Grant is about 25, but he is relatively fresh--not much mileage on his legs. He should have about six prime years left. The last thing the Packers should do is put themselves in a position where they have to re-sign him in one or two or three or four years when his market value is extremely much higher and when he will command a contract that will take him PAST his prime.

The Ahman Green situation worked out just right--we got his prime years for a fairly reasonable amount; Then we let somebody else be stupid enough to pay big for his post-prime years. THAT is what I want with Grant too. Oay the man now--for six years--and the timing is perfect.

Morency? Come on! I doubt he even makes the team.

[MOBB DEEP]

pack havn horrendous off season

no brett = NO WAY we beat cowgirls!!

We didn't do so well at beating them with him. (that always drove me nuts as those smarmy bastards need to get beat every now and again)

Very true. Deer in the headlights.

i actually dislike cowGIRLS more than bears; prob b/c i became pack fan rt before favre era

[bobblehead]

Grant is letting his agent make him appear to be the reicarnation of Javon Walker.

That's pushing it. Walker decided the contract he signed wasn't good enough. Grant is not under contract. He can't go anywhere else, but he's not under contract. And Grant does deserve more than the minimum tender the Packers offered.

Grant is in a unique scenario as an older inexperienced player who's had some success. I don't blame him for wanting to get a decent contract now because he'll be pushing the end of his prime years by the time he's an unrestricted free agent. But he has nowhere else to go and if he doesn't want to push FA off another year he'll need to get something done.

I predict they'll bicker for another couple of weeks then it will come to a rapid conclusion two weeks before the regular season.

I'm not convinced his not being under contract is relevant since its only because he wasn't good enough to get drafted. We drafted wynn in the 7th and he got a bare bones deal. Now if he were to man up and get 1500 in a full season this year would you say he has less of a right to hold out next year than grant does now? Would he deserve "more than the minimum tender the packers have offered" ??

grant is in this situation because of grant..no one else...except TT for getting him off the scrap heap. I'm sick of whiney athletes who want everything when they overperform, but still want props when they underperform. What if we sign him to 4 million garaunteed and he comes out and doesn't look sharp. What if he is dorsey levens all over again? Sorry, play hardball, go with Bjack, morency and wynn. Let him get Rhetted.

[Fritz]

I will say this: When people start throwing 40 mill-type numbers around, I keep flashing back to Grant's fumbleitis in the playoffs.

[gbgary]

Pay the man already!

Those of you thinking Brandon Jackson is and acceptable replacement must be blind. Jackson is decent, maybe even capable of being a slightly above average starter. Grant is extraordinary. The burst that he showed last year sets him apart from all but a small hand full of backs in the NFL. The extremely bright immediate future of the Packers gets a whole lot dimmer if Grant isn't there.

$40 million spread over six years is NOT outlandish at all. Neither is guaranteeing $5-10 million of it. There are clearlly lesser players already making that much, and with increase over time, that amount will seem cheap.

i'm right there with ya brotha! Rodgers' success depends on a great running attack to keep the defense honest. without it...he's toast.

[Gunakor]

pack havn horrendous off season

no brett = NO WAY we beat cowgirls!!

Since when has Brett been known to beat the cowgirls? FFS Rodgers nearly succeded where Favre has failed for his entire career. Rodgers coulda pulled that one off in Dallas last year with just a little bit of defensive help in the second half. Favre was just throwing up moonballs.

I'm not suggesting that Rodgers is going to do any better. But considering Favre's record against Dallas, I don't think he could do much worse.

[Gunakor]

Pay the man already!

Those of you thinking Brandon Jackson is and acceptable replacement must be blind. Jackson is decent, maybe even capable of being a slightly above average starter. Grant is extraordinary. The burst that he showed last year sets him apart from all but a small hand full of backs in the NFL. The extremely bright immediate future of the Packers gets a whole lot dimmer if Grant isn't there.

$40 million spread over six years is NOT outlandish at all. Neither is guaranteeing $5-10 million of it. There are clearlly lesser players already making that much, and with increase over time, that amount will seem cheap.

Waiting a year or signing him now for just 2 or 3 or whatever would NOT be wise at all. Grant is about 25, but he is relatively fresh--not much mileage on his legs. He should have about six prime years left. The last thing the Packers should do is put themselves in a position where they have to re-sign him in one or two or three or four years when his market value is extremely much higher and when he will command a contract that will take him PAST his prime.

The Ahman Green situation worked out just right--we got his prime years for a fairly reasonable amount; Then we let somebody else be stupid enough to pay big for his post-prime years. THAT is what I want with Grant too. Oay the man now--for six years--and the timing is perfect.

Morency? Come on! I doubt he even makes the team.

40 million doesn't seem outlandish, especially since Grant would have to rush for 2000 or more yards in either of the next two seasons to have any chance of earning that amount. But I'd only guarantee 3 mil or so. Truth is Grant is not proven. It is just as likely that he had a fluke season as that he'll be a superstar. And if he bombs out we need money to replace him - on top of needing money to resign many talented football players we've drafted recently that are coming up on the end of thier rookie contracts and becoming eligible for FA soon. Those contracts are not going to come cheap, and rightfully should cost more than anything Grant is offered right now.

[jmbarnes101]

Come on down Brandon Jackson, you're the next player on my fantasy football team.

I do hope that Grant signs sometime soon but I think both sides are still far apart and I side with the Packers side, like I usually do.

[Gunakor]

Come on down Brandon Jackson, you're the next player on my fantasy football team.

I do hope that Grant signs sometime soon but I think both sides are still far apart and I side with the Packers side, like I usually do.

PFT reporting that Green Bay has reached an agreement with Ryan Grant. I'd expect him on the practice field on monday.

[The Gunshooter]

Good to see Grant come to his senses. If he rushes for 1500 yards this year he will make $8.5 million over 2008 and 2009 which is tremendously fair considering the Packers own this guy. If he makes the team but gets seriously injured early on then he will still be set for life if he buys some injury insurance. He owes the Packers a great year in 2008.

[Bretsky]

Don't forget Morency is healthy this year and if everyone else picks it up a little they can do without Grant if they have to. I just don't believe you can let the players force you to give them whatever they want. A 500% raise is not good enough for Grant? I say fock 'em.

Morency ? Yuk; heck bring back the Whisper then