Favre to compete for starting job

[mmmdk]

So Favre can compete; what will that entail? TT & McCarthy said that Rodgers was the clearcut # 1 guy...this has to come from Rodgers himself. Aaron might have been asked if he'd be ok with open competition and he'd probably be fine with it. If that's the case then I'll cool; anything else would be two-faced. All could be good!

Favre is still immature though but can play; I wouldn't bet against him on the latter. Winning in the playoffs is another matter entirely.

[Fosco33]

Good. Make a decision and go that way.

So you 'lost' a pick on getting Flynn - maybe he would've been a decent QB but hard to keep 4 on the roster if Favre stays as part of reg season roster.

I still like the Brohm pick and they needed to do something about 3rd string.

What else did the Packers do differently 'moving past Favre'?

If Favre wins the starting QB spot, I think management has sent the message that they think ARod is ready and maybe they use him more (especially late season). Will ARod really be 'fed up' with GB about not playing this year and leave - or will he be finally able to move past Favre?

If he leaves, were fucked. Those who complain about Rodgers' inexperience should be the first to agree with me. If Rodgers leaves then we are left with an even more inexperienced Brian Brohm, who basically fortfieted his rookie season because the 3rd string QB doesn't get very many reps at all. How is he going to develop into anything sitting on the bottom of the depth chart? Rodgers is the answer long term, and every effort should be made to keep him happy and in Green Bay. Especially now that Favre is coming back, because like I said, that means that Brohm isn't going to develop any this year.

Well now that management has lost their spine and caved to Lord Favre, kiss Rodgers goodbye. Hes gone.

If Rodgers' decision to leave is based on the situation with Favre this year, it would be very, very immature on his part. Rodgers' best chance to succeed will be in GB, in a system he will know very well and with a coach and GM who like him and will "owe him" in a way.

IF GB is his best opportunity, here is where he should stay, regardless of what happened this year with Favre. However, if Favre decides to return for yet another season, his best opportunity may not be in GB. But, a lot can happen between now and next Spring.

I agree.

Why would Rodgers leave? Why is this such a guarantee? What were the incentives (salary) if he played/started or made certain milestones?

Will that monetary loss mean he's gone?

IF SO... why not...

Trade him for value now or risk losing him to FA and getting little/nothing in return (maybe a comp pick). Sure, you run the risk of Favre getting hurt and then having to rely on Brohm - but you also train Brohm for the future... or bring in some vet if that scenario plays out.


To me - I think Rodgers stays around. He still has one of the best jobs in football as a near guarantee and can stay healthy a little longer. He also has plenty of leverage for a bigger contract (you guys screwed me out of more money, you have no other viable QB, there's only X # of QBs on the FA market, etc.).

[boiga]

Sigh.... so this is where we are at now? Instead of the pro-favre crowd rooting against our starting QB, we have the anti Favre crowd saying that they'll root against a starting QB.

I'll be supporting who ever is under center. However, I really do hope that Rodgers wins out here. He's put in the time, has the skills and is doing everything he can for the team. Favre's got diminishing, isn't willing to put in the time, and is doing everything he can for himself.

If Rodgers wins the competition and Brett accepts the backup job, I think we'll be better off for all this mess. Any other combo and we're pretty much screwing ourselves over.

[Pacopete4]

Paco,

I don't think Favre is a POS like cpk just stated, but I hold him mostly accountable for this debacle and how it's affected the team and their fans.

He will have to do more than ever before to unite this team and the fans. If that means actually apologizing for this mess, that would do a lot. If Favre had so many people firmly in his corner, there would have been more than 100-200 at those rallies and more than 30 in Milwaukee.

There are a lot that #4 has treated pretty poorly in this, so I understand CPK's frustration.

Understandable but to talk about a guy thats given us all hes had for 16 years and who has done more work in the community than any of us ever will.. i have to say that he at least has earned the respect of not tearing him down for changing his mind... who are we to say when he can stop playing? Yes, this situation is a mess and Favre is partly to blame for that... but it take two my brotha... it taaaaakes two...

And I'm sorry too, because I cannot sit there and rip on a legend and a guy that has brought our organization to the level that is now at... without him, where the hell do you think we'd be?

Careful Paco... Without Favre's OT interception... I know the whole team struggled in that game, but Favre was no exception. We didn't get a chance to see what Rodgers could do in the cold. Just sayin.

I meant for the last 16 years.. not for this upcoming season

The reason this organiztion is where it is now is because of 5 men Harlan, Wolf, Holmgren, White, and Brett Favre

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Montauk J. Jones
Favre can still play? Maybe in week three against detroit but not in a money game, a cold game, and God know's not a playoff game. Bigger the game, bigger the choke job.

One thing about Rogers is we won't watch some wild eyed Qb choking away the big game or folding like a cheap suit in the playoff's.

July 27, 2008 4:09 PM

I'd start Aaron all year long, but be willing to pull him if he falters during a game.

There could be worse things than having Favre as backup.

I agree. Bring on the pack version of woodstrock.

[Jimx29]

I'm happy as hell about this.
I've always thought that coaches were taught to put the best team on the filed. They (coaches/GM) have finally put themselves in the right position to do just that.

[Gunakor]

The big questions: what happens if Rodgers and Favre play even in camp and the pre-season? If Favre loses this competition, will he take it like a man or raise a big stink?

if they play even.......i'd give it to the guy with the legs...Rodgers. if this happens i'd hope Brett would do the right thing. ya know...i think THAT would make him retire for good.

If they play even, you give the playing time to Rodgers. Rodgers is going to get better, while Favre is or soon will be on the decline. Rodgers needs the experience, so if he gives this team as good a chance to win, he needs the playing time.

[cpk1994]

OR you have told your locker room we are going to let the guy compete like all of you are and if he wins, he wins.. but the best players will be on the field because gentlemen, we are here to win a fuckin super bowl... and im sure all the players in that locker room will agree

Thats not how I would read it as a player. If m3 allows Favre to be thae starter, he better be prepared for the shitstorm that will happen when more players pull stunts.

If Favre wins and everybody sees it, who's gonna bitch? If Favre earns his job then he should get it. I've been hoping for a competition. I think Aaron can beat Brett for the job, but if he doesn't then Brett should be and will be the starter.

You know what Im done. Trade his ass to Minnesota, I don't care. I want him gone. I don't want to have to see that POS ever again!

youre a tool, sorry to be rude, but wow.. you must not be a Packer fan if you can even talk about Brett that way

IM a packer fan and I can say whatever I want about that POS. I want him GONE you haer me G O N E. I don't want to have to look or hear about him ever agin. And he can take TT, MM, and M3, the spineless cockroaches with them.

Meds anyone? Seriously you're talking about someone that's brought this organization back to the top over the past 16 years. Has he not handled situations well? Of course not, but man, please show a little respect.

Im sorry, but I have no repsect for someone who shit on the Packers like that. I don't care what he has done in the past. He is a POS to me. ANd managment are a bunch of gutless cowards.

[gbgary]

The big questions: what happens if Rodgers and Favre play even in camp and the pre-season? If Favre loses this competition, will he take it like a man or raise a big stink?

if they play even.......i'd give it to the guy with the legs...Rodgers. if this happens i'd hope Brett would do the right thing. ya know...i think THAT would make him retire for good.

If they play even, you give the playing time to Rodgers. Rodgers is going to get better, while Favre is or soon will be on the decline. Rodgers needs the experience, so if he gives this team as good a chance to win, he needs the playing time.

sounds like we agree.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, this thread SEEMS to be a good thing from the point of view of those who wanted this. Don't get your hopes up completely, though, just because some ESPN reporterette claims to have the scoop. Thompson/McCarthy/Murphy aren't going to tip their hand and admit prejudging the "competition".

The big negative here would be that this "competition" distracts and detracts from getting Rodgers used to the first team offense. I don't think, however, that they will let it come to that. As somebody said on the other page, Rodgers is presumed to be the incumbent starter.Thus, he will get the great majority of reps in practice. It's his job to lose--and I don't think he will.

And how exactly do you judge a "competition" like this? Rodgers won't be under the mental stress of a game, and Favre won't be under the physical stress he would be in a game. A large part of Brett's success last year was modifying the offense to suit his aging body--shorter quicker patterns so he wasn't rushed, etc. This year, if they play it straight up, as they should, it is a distinct advantage for Rodgers.

If the end result of all this, though, is Favre being a contented backup--available in case Rodgers is injured, then it's a happy ending.

[dtown]

If Favre's on the team, he's going to be the starter in the opener - no way will TT/MM break the consecutive games streak. If Favre finds out he can't play anymore, my guess is he'd voluntarily re-retire.

This season's fucked anyways, might as well roll with it with Favre.

[Joemailman]

The idea of having an open competition at QB seems odd to me. You have a future HOF'er coming off one of his best years vs. a guy who never started. Teams that have an open competition are usually teams that don't have a guy who has accomplished all that much up to the present time. I think they're better off saying tomorrow who the starter will be. That would be less divisive than having an "open competition" that some may feel was fixed from the start.

[The Gunshooter]

Rodgers can't leave. He is under contract for two more years. That being said I will be very suprised to see Farve win back the starting job short of injury. It's Rodger's job to lose and he won't.

[cpk1994]

The idea of having an open competition at QB seems odd to me. You have a future HOF'er coming off one of his best years vs. a guy who never started. Teams that have an open competition are usually teams that don't have a guy who has accomplished all that much up to the present time. I think they're better off saying tomorrow who the starter will be. That would be less divisive than having an "open competition" that some may feel was fixed from the start.

Then they need to show the 'team commitment' they preach and say "Aaron Rodgers is our starter".

[MOBB DEEP]

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