Who Do You THINK Will Win The Job?

[SnakeLH2006]

The fact McCarthy called Rodgers' performance "solid" is what makes me question the "fairness" of any competition for the starter's job. Rodgers, by all accounts I've seen, blew goats.

That is an awesome post, dude. I have a feeling MM is still smarting over those Mariucci comments, but is also waiting to talk (yell) at Brett in a sit-down meeting before he will say anything construed as NOT positive in describing A-Rod's performance.

[Pacopete4]

The fact McCarthy called Rodgers' performance "solid" is what makes me question the "fairness" of any competition for the starter's job. Rodgers, by all accounts I've seen, blew goats.

That is an awesome post, dude. I have a feeling MM is still smarting over those Mariucci comments, but is also waiting to talk (yell) at Brett in a sit-down meeting before he will say anything construed as NOT positive in describing A-Rod's performance.

I have a feeling that When MM and Favre talk tonight, it will be all settled about what direction this is gonna go. When Favre tells him he wants to play and MM see's that... Favre will take this team back over and we will be on our way again to another exciting Packer football season

[Noodle]

Crap if I know, Leap. I didn't see the game, and followed instead on the thread here (which is a friggin' excellent way to do it). It sounded like there were some drops and some break downs in protection. Field was wet, guys were slipping. The pick was on a situation where he had to go for the end zone in the 2 minute drill.

I agree his stats sure blew, and it was 1s v. 2s, though again, that's a little deceptive, as I'd take Rouse as a 1 any day over Collins.

But honestly, I think M3 obviously knows what's up and doesn't want to fuel an already volatile situation. I'm not going to call him a liar for that.

[bobblehead]

I think McCarthy is trying to keep Rodgers from taking more heat than he already is.. I'm sure in the video room, McCarthy will be using every other word opposite of solid...

I realize that...but the performance was not solid, so McCarthy LIED.

He could avoid criticizing Rodgers without saying a shitty performance was "solid".

McCarthey never bad mouths his players publicly, even when JJ fumbled twice against Chicago, even when brett dropped one in KC's lap right before halftime MM didn't bad mouth them. Its not his style, so stop making excuses already. MM will start the guy he thinks is best, he wants to win.

[Chevelle2]

Already making excuses are we?

If the Packers aren't going to let Favre fairly compete for the starting position, then he certainly can't win it.

That isn't an excuse. It is a fact.

Your assuming that they won't and so if he doesn't you will say it was unfair.

[bobblehead]

Look, I think a number of folks on this board have been around the game enough to know that it's hard to judge a performance until you get in the film room, and this is especially true of a scrimmage, where timing and route running are often not spot on.

But to the bigger issue. Yes, I think Favre will be better right now, but I also have a feeling that if he were the undisputed starter from the get-go and allowed to make some mistakes, A-Rod would give us a better chance at the end of the season, in to the playoffs, and in to the future. I'm thinking TT and M3 think this as well.

So my money is on Favre having a good camp and TT trading him to anybody, including the Queens, who will give him value.

Good post, after all, Favre has often said that about 289 recievers ran wrong routes on him during his career. But hey, we don't like guys lying around here.

[The Leaper]

Crap if I know, Leap. I didn't see the game, and followed instead on the thread here (which is a friggin' excellent way to do it). It sounded like there were some drops and some break downs in protection. Field was wet, guys were slipping. The pick was on a situation where he had to go for the end zone in the 2 minute drill.

My point is that it would be VERY EASY for McCarthy to come out and make the same claim you did, Noodle...tough to make determinations until we see the film, lots of mistakes in all areas to correct, etc, etc, etc.

Instead, McCarthy said Rodgers was "solid" by tossing for a 35% completion percentage and 4 yards per attempt. Don't give me excuses about conditions or anything else...this is the NFL, and you'll play in that stuff. You have to be able to handle adversity...last night, Rodgers failed miserably in that regard.

Sorry Noodle. McCarthy offered a flat out LIE...even if you don't have the balls to come out and say it.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I think McCarthy is trying to keep Rodgers from taking more heat than he already is.. I'm sure in the video room, McCarthy will be using every other word opposite of solid...

I realize that...but the performance was not solid, so McCarthy LIED.

He could avoid criticizing Rodgers without saying a shitty performance was "solid".

Agreed. That JSO article was one big denial by McCarthy. 7-20 is NOT solid, and it kinda pisses me off that he blamed A-Rod's performance on everyone BUT him. The only TD drive led by A-Rod was helped out by a 38 yard pass interference penalty on the rookie. The guy had 2nd stringers out there defending and he couldn't even repeat his performance from last year's scrimmage. I'm starting to wonder if A-Rod AND McCarthy are feeling the pressure. I'm not trying to predict an entire season based on last night's performance but its not hard to figure out why the crowd seemed uneasy throughout the entire scrimmage.

[The Leaper]

Your assuming that they won't and so if he doesn't you will say it was unfair.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out the facts as I see them...and the facts right now are that McCarthy has his lips firmly planted around Rodgers' dick if he calls that performance last night "solid".

Again, I'm not saying he has to rip Rodgers a new asshole. I just don't like the game McCarthy is playing here any more than I liked some of Favre's tactics. McCarthy has always impressed me as being straightforward...but now he's bending over backwards to not just deflect blame from Rodgers, but talk the guy up like he just put on a good show?

Guess what, Mike? This is the NFL. Rodgers, if he is going to become a starting QB that is worth a damn, is going to have to endure blame and criticism. Pampering the kid isn't going to help anything.

[bobblehead]

Crap if I know, Leap. I didn't see the game, and followed instead on the thread here (which is a friggin' excellent way to do it). It sounded like there were some drops and some break downs in protection. Field was wet, guys were slipping. The pick was on a situation where he had to go for the end zone in the 2 minute drill.

My point is that it would be VERY EASY for McCarthy to come out and make the same claim you did, Noodle...tough to make determinations until we see the film, lots of mistakes in all areas to correct, etc, etc, etc.

Instead, McCarthy said Rodgers was "solid" by tossing for a 35% completion percentage and 4 yards per attempt. Don't give me excuses about conditions or anything else...this is the NFL, and you'll play in that stuff. You have to be able to handle adversity...last night, Rodgers failed miserably in that regard.

Sorry Noodle. McCarthy offered a flat out LIE...even if you don't have the balls to come out and say it.

By your definition favre was horrendous in chicago and anything but solid against the giants. He turned the ball over twice and about 40% of his yards came on one play to DD when the dback fell. Now mind you I have siad...recently even...that favre wasn't the reason we lost that game, but by your definitions in this thread....actually he was.

[Spaulding]

Normally I'd say in a heartbeat it would be Favre but given the drama of the offseason and what I can't not believe will be some rust, I honestly think it's pretty much a toss up. With that being said if it is, I'm guessing Rodgers given he's potentially the future direction of the franchise at QB.

[bobblehead]

Your assuming that they won't and so if he doesn't you will say it was unfair.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out the facts as I see them...and the facts right now are that McCarthy has his lips firmly planted around Rodgers' dick if he calls that performance last night "solid".

Again, I'm not saying he has to rip Rodgers a new asshole. I just don't like the game McCarthy is playing here any more than I liked some of Favre's tactics. McCarthy has always impressed me as being straightforward...but now he's bending over backwards to not just deflect blame from Rodgers, but talk the guy up like he just put on a good show?

Guess what, Mike? This is the NFL. Rodgers, if he is going to become a starting QB that is worth a damn, is going to have to endure blame and criticism. Pampering the kid isn't going to help anything.

So just as I predicted, even if MM declares rodgers the winner and his QB, you won't agree. Nor will any of the BF first fans on this forum. I said this over a week ago, and I'm saying it now....BF has created a no win circus that is not conducive to a super bowl run. That is why I didn't want him back after he missed OTA's and minis.

[The Leaper]

By your definition favre was horrendous in chicago and anything but solid against the giants. He turned the ball over twice and about 40% of his yards came on one play to DD when the dback fell. Now mind you I have siad...recently even...that favre wasn't the reason we lost that game, but by your definitions in this thread....actually he was.

I agree with you. Where did I say that Favre was "solid" in those performances?

My point is that McCarthy is the one at fault here. What's your point?

[Pacopete4]

Your assuming that they won't and so if he doesn't you will say it was unfair.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out the facts as I see them...and the facts right now are that McCarthy has his lips firmly planted around Rodgers' dick if he calls that performance last night "solid".

Again, I'm not saying he has to rip Rodgers a new asshole. I just don't like the game McCarthy is playing here any more than I liked some of Favre's tactics. McCarthy has always impressed me as being straightforward...but now he's bending over backwards to not just deflect blame from Rodgers, but talk the guy up like he just put on a good show?

Guess what, Mike? This is the NFL. Rodgers, if he is going to become a starting QB that is worth a damn, is going to have to endure blame and criticism. Pampering the kid isn't going to help anything.

So just as I predicted, even if MM declares rodgers the winner and his QB, you won't agree. Nor will any of the BF first fans on this forum. I said this over a week ago, and I'm saying it now....BF has created a no win circus that is not conducive to a super bowl run. That is why I didn't want him back after he missed OTA's and minis.

Brett Favre playing for us is a win in my book... the guy has won more games than anyone else has ever... I dont think we're in bad hands

[Noodle]

Sorry Noodle. McCarthy offered a flat out LIE...even if you don't have the balls to come out and say it.

No balls, you say? Well, only a cad would speak of his own undercarriage.

But perhaps I can help solve a mystery for you -- your wife didn't get those bruises on her chin and hinder palyin' dodgeball.