Who Do You THINK Will Win The Job?

[The Leaper]

So just as I predicted, even if MM declares rodgers the winner and his QB, you won't agree.

I'll agree if that is what I see on the field.

If I see that Favre isn't given a fair chance and McCarthy will go with Rodgers no matter what, then no...I won't agree.\

My point is that if McCarthy is calling Rodgers' performance last night "solid", then it would appear Favre has a snowball's chance in hell.

[Pacopete4]

Sorry Noodle. McCarthy offered a flat out LIE...even if you don't have the balls to come out and say it.

No balls, you say? Well, only a cad would speak of his own undercarriage.

But perhaps I can help solve a mystery for you -- your wife didn't get those bruises on her chin and hinder palyin' dodgeball.

hahaa that was a good one.. I dont know about your balls situation but MM did lie about how he played cuz it was anything but solid... that being said... it was only a scrimmage and these guys are working on getting their timing down.. Defenses always have the upper hand in the beginning unless its a team QB'd by Brett Favre haha

[The Leaper]

But perhaps I can help solve a mystery for you -- your wife didn't get those bruises on her chin and hinder palyin' dodgeball.

Touche.

[SnakeLH2006]

Sorry Noodle. McCarthy offered a flat out LIE...even if you don't have the balls to come out and say it.

No balls, you say? Well, only a cad would speak of his own undercarriage.

But perhaps I can help solve a mystery for you -- your wife didn't get those bruises on her chin and hinder palyin' dodgeball.

hahaa that was a good one.. I dont know about your balls situation but MM did lie about how he played cuz it was anything but solid... that being said... it was only a scrimmage and these guys are working on getting their timing down.. Defenses always have the upper hand in the beginning unless its a team QB'd by Brett Favre haha

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=779469

On this night one year ago, Favre completed 13 of 15 passes for 157 yards and one touchdown, tearing apart the No. 2 defense with ridiculous ease.

[Noodle]

It's all good, Leap.

And yes, you're right, M3 shouldn't have said anything, but I can't ring the guy up on this one given the current circus.

One other worry I got -- usually at this point, the No. 1 gets way more reps under center. If this is truly going to be a battle, then Favre and A-Rod will either be splitting those reps or cutting in to the reps the other guys get. Prolly a combination of the two. If it will be A-Rod, it does him and the team no good to be splitting his reps with Favre.

I'm hoping for a fast trade.

[Tony Oday]

I think MM should just YELL at all the players that make mistakes and just blast them for every negative play there is. Screw a younger or older players confidence! Screw the team chemistry! I say every time we lose MM has a press conference BLASTING his players and his play calling....while he is at it he should yell at the fans for not cheering hard enough!

Good God does ANY coach come out and say in the PRESEASON(not even it was a practice)"Our team was terrible, our young guys suck, I wish we had all washed up Vets and I will NOT under any circumstances back up my players! They are in the NFL GROW UP!" Im sorry the coach would lose his locker room in 2 seconds...

[bobblehead]

By your definition favre was horrendous in chicago and anything but solid against the giants. He turned the ball over twice and about 40% of his yards came on one play to DD when the dback fell. Now mind you I have siad...recently even...that favre wasn't the reason we lost that game, but by your definitions in this thread....actually he was.

I agree with you. Where did I say that Favre was "solid" in those performances?

My point is that McCarthy is the one at fault here. What's your point?

I believe you said many times that favre didn't cost us the giants game. Since he is the guy handling the ball, that might be interpretted as he was "solid"

My point was that MM doesn't trash his guys, any of them. Not to the press anyway. He simply says things like "miscommunication" "we gotta work on that" and "I think he was solid"

My further point is this. Back when people were calling for rodgers to start due to BF tossing 29 gifts to the other team MM was defending him, saying he was solid. The favre first crowd at the time (I was defending BF then a little bit too) was busy saying things like "MM sees them both every day, you gotta trust him to start the better QB." So my point is exactly that and if he starts rodgers this year I hope people can cheer on the green and gold anyway, just as I will if he starts BF. Don't go running on about it being "his boy" or he lied, or it wasn't a fair competition.

My honest opinion is BF missed the offseason and pulled rank on MM. He won't be controllable this season and if he starts he will probably toss another 20 picks and get uhrlacher another raise. This is ugly...really ugly, and I'm surprised people actually think having BF back AT THIS POINT is a good thing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Agreed. That JSO article was one big denial by McCarthy. 7-20 is NOT solid, and it kinda pisses me off that he blamed A-Rod's performance on everyone BUT him.

I don't see it as blaming everybody but him. I see it as a typical McCarthy "don't call out any player in public" kind of statement.

(What was your assessment of Aaron Rodgers' performance tonight?)

I thought Aaron was solid. There are some things where the production wasn't there, whether it was on the front end or the back end of the pass play. Just having the opportunity to stand back and watch the whole scrimmage for the first time, it's just like I told the team, everything that went well out there was sound fundamentally. There wasn't a lot of challenge schematically and it was by design. We are a young football team. It was important for our guys to line up and play and it was a fundamentally based scrimmage. I saw some bad fundamentals and I saw some bad technique, and that's really what I am anticipating coming out of the film study tomorrow.

[bobblehead]

So just as I predicted, even if MM declares rodgers the winner and his QB, you won't agree.

I'll agree if that is what I see on the field.

If I see that Favre isn't given a fair chance and McCarthy will go with Rodgers no matter what, then no...I won't agree.\

My point is that if McCarthy is calling Rodgers' performance last night "solid", then it would appear Favre has a snowball's chance in hell.

Again, your a better evaluator than MM....grats....you should be the GM I guess.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=779469

On this night one year ago, Favre completed 13 of 15 passes for 157 yards and one touchdown, tearing apart the No. 2 defense with ridiculous ease.

How did Rodgers do a year ago? Look, Favre wasn't always good in these things either. He was often poor in the preseason. In fact, Rodgers has looked better than Favre in the last two preseasons. Of course, he's going 2s against 2s. We'll see how it goes from here, but I have a hard time getting on any player because of a poor practice.

[Ballboy]

It will be interesting...given the poor job Rodgers did in the family night vs. 2nd stringers, TT and MM might want to rethink everything.

I actually had high hopes for Rodgers given all the positive things MM was saying about him.....but honestly, he looked like crap last night. Feet always moving, throws that were off target. If he has been getting most of the reps in OTAs and training camp, he should be on the same page as the receivers.


Brett wins hands down.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Camp Notes 8/2/2007

Offense, Rodgers make a good first impression
By Bob McGinn

Green Bay - The widely doubted offense of the Green Bay Packers, especially quarterback Aaron Rodgers, had every reason to leave Lambeau Field on Saturday night feeling rather bullish about itself. For one of the first times in his career, Rodgers offered some tangible evidence that he is improving and might one day be a suitable successor to Brett Favre.

With a crowd of 59,362 watching the intrasquad scrimmage on a beautiful midsummer night, Rodgers completed 12 of 21 passes for 138 yards [directing the No. 2 offense against the No. 1 defense].

[bobblehead]

It will be interesting...given the poor job Rodgers did in the family night vs. 2nd stringers, TT and MM might want to rethink everything.

I actually had high hopes for Rodgers given all the positive things MM was saying about him.....but honestly, he looked like crap last night. Feet always moving, throws that were off target. If he has been getting most of the reps in OTAs and training camp, he should be on the same page as the receivers.


Brett wins hands down.

Another future GM...why do we pay TT millions when all these guys evaluate talent better than he does?

[Ballboy]

Camp Notes 8/2/2007

Offense, Rodgers make a good first impression
By Bob McGinn

EDITED - QUIT POSTING FUCKING JSO ARTICLES, PLEASE!




bobblehead: read the sig

[The Leaper]

I believe you said many times that favre didn't cost us the giants game. Since he is the guy handling the ball, that might be interpretted as he was "solid"

Incorrect. My viewpoint has been that there were many who cost us the Giants game...it wasn't the work of any single individual, but the team as a whole. Favre was part of the team, and certainly contributed with a bad INT in overtime. However, others made equally pitiful errors during that game.

My point was that MM doesn't trash his guys, any of them. Not to the press anyway. He simply says things like "miscommunication" "we gotta work on that" and "I think he was solid"

I'm fine with not trashing guys at a press conference. My point is that McCarthy was going overboard in praise and excuses for Rodgers, when it was uncalled for. McCarthy did not have to say anything good or bad about Rodgers...he could have easily deflected the questions like he typically does. He did not...he went out of his way to heap praise on Rodgers.

Don't go running on about it being "his boy" or he lied, or it wasn't a fair competition.

I'm not saying the competition isn't fair yet. I'm willing to let the thing play out. My point is that kissing Rodgers' ass isn't exactly giving me the impression that McCarthy is unbiased.