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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

    If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.

    Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual

    I'd be more comfortable with Favre if Favre had put in the offseason work required by MM. Remember now when Favre did NOT put in that offseason work in the past he has played undisciplined and struggled at times. Last year and during the Holmgren era, when Favre did in fact put in the offseason work, he was a much better QB. It's not a stretch to think that this year we'll get the Favre that struggles because he didn't put in the offseason work rather than the MVP Favre who has put in that work.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pacopete4
      Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual
      I was worried about him with his comments about how emotionally draining the season was for him (and his play suffered down the stretch).

      More than anything, his lack of commitment this offseason has me worried. You don't do well in the NFL by not being 100% committed all offseason. That's just the way it works.

      If he had said in March that he was coming back, I'd be mildly worried after seeing the way he looked in the NFC Championship Game and not knowing he couldn't enjoy the fruits of a 13-3 season. I'm really worried know that he half-assed it all offseason. That offseason work is important. Unfortunately, I think we'll see how important it is this season.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Gunakor
        Originally posted by Pacopete4
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

        If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.

        Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual

        I'd be more comfortable with Favre if Favre had put in the offseason work required by MM. Remember now when Favre did NOT put in that offseason work in the past he has played undisciplined and struggled at times. Last year and during the Holmgren era, when Favre did in fact put in the offseason work, he was a much better QB. It's not a stretch to think that this year we'll get the Favre that struggles because he didn't put in the offseason work rather than the MVP Favre who has put in that work.


        Gunakor.. understandable you'd have your doubts about his work.. but were you with him down there? It sure sounds to me that he was busting his ass to get ready for the season... I even read that he's thrown more in this offseason than he did in the past... remember that he does it on his own and gets ready that way.. if you mean not ready for the playbook.. well im sure he's ran every play we've got a million times

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        • #34
          I'm not as concerned with the offseason stuff either.

          It is possible that Favre might actually last longer this season because he didn't kill himself in workouts during the offseason. Sometimes, a break from overworking yourself is a good thing.

          I'm not saying that WILL happen...just that I'm not going to sit here and guess that Favre can't keep himself in shape. The guy is a professional athlete...and has been for 17 years. He knows what to do.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Pacopete4
            Gunakor.. understandable you'd have your doubts about his work.. but were you with him down there? It sure sounds to me that he was busting his ass to get ready for the season... I even read that he's thrown more in this offseason than he did in the past... remember that he does it on his own and gets ready that way.. if you mean not ready for the playbook.. well im sure he's ran every play we've got a million times
            You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #36
              So what did teams do before OTA's and minicamps?... its football and the guy knows how to play it

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.
                Yawn.

                Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

                Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.
                My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by The Leaper
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.
                  Yawn.

                  Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

                  Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.


                  Oh come on Leaper... Favre isn't in Mannings league anymore... oh wait, I forgot about last season......

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    Originally posted by The Leaper
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.
                    Yawn.

                    Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

                    Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.

                    Oh come on Leaper... Favre isn't in Mannings league anymore... oh wait, I forgot about last season......

                    Peyton > Favre.

                    Sorry, but its true.

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                    • #40
                      We'll see. Proof is in the pudding. Manning did practice some, and he was at all of the OTAs and minicamps.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by The Leaper
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        You can't simulate OTAs and minicamps down in Mississippi. It's not just the physical part, but it's the installs, it's the timing with the new receivers, it's the leadership you can instill by being at the OTAs and minicamps.
                        Yawn.

                        Like I said before...Peyton Manning is going to miss ALL OF TRAINING CAMP. I'm betting when he comes back, it won't take him long to get back in the swing of things. Wanna bet against that?

                        Sure, some things were missed...but it isn't some kind of huge deal that makes it impossible for a QB to contribute in the coming season. Far from it, actually.
                        Yeah, I think that this is getting blown out of proportion. Brett will be fine. I can't imagine any in the league who has more coaching/playbook knowledge/practice reps than Brett. Even McMarthy has said Favre is like another coach out there. All we gotta worry about is Brett being in top shape and according to a 3pm CST ESPN live report his physical went fine.
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                        • #42
                          Will they retire his jersey with him in it?
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Chevelle2


                            Peyton > Favre.

                            Sorry, but its true.
                            Right now... Yes...

                            Back in Favre's prime? No...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Zool
                              Will they retire his jersey with him in it?

                              If you are referring to the #4 night on the opener.. it has been postponed... but you could be making a joke as well

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by packers11
                                Originally posted by Chevelle2


                                Peyton > Favre.

                                Sorry, but its true.
                                Right now... Yes...

                                Back in Favre's prime? No...

                                isn't it great that even that is debatable when Favre is 38 going on 39... he's so fuckin good... i love it

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