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    From packersnews.com

    The Packers’ offensive linemen have been practicing a technique that will be a more prominent and possibly controversial part of their repertoire in their new zone-blocking scheme: cut blocking.

    The zone-blocking offense that coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski learned from former Denver and Atlanta offensive line coach Alex Gibbs emphasizes cut blocking on the back side of running plays. It’s occasionally provoked public complaints by opponents because of the injury risk to defensive linemen, but it’s a staple of the scheme that Jagodzinski says he will deploy in the same manner as Gibbs.

    “Yeah, we’re going to cut block,” Jagodzinski said. “They’re going to try to tackle us, aren’t they?”

    Gibbs’ zone-blocking scheme is based on the running back making only one decisive cut. The cut blocking not only slows the pursuit of back-side tacklers, it more importantly clears the running back’s vision if the front side of the play is too clogged and he needs to make that one cut a sharp move against the grain.

    “The line’s job is to make the back’s job so easy that he’ll never miss the cut,” Jagodzinski said.

    The Packers have practiced cut blocking several times this offseason in their minicamps and organized team activities, something they rarely, if ever, did under their last three coaching staffs. The offensive linemen practice it by running and diving at low-placed blocking dummies.

    The cut blocking has caused controversy the past several years when defensive linemen have sustained knee and leg injuries against Denver and Atlanta, the two teams that ran Gibbs’ system before the Packers and Houston joined the group this offseason.

    In December, for instance, Carolina defensive ends Julius Peppers and Mike Rucker each sustained a sprained ankle when cut blocked by Atlanta linemen. In 2004, Cincinnati defensive tackle Tony Williams and Jacksonville defensive end Paul Spicer sustained season-ending leg injuries on back-side cut blocks by Denver linemen.

    Cut blocking is legal under NFL rules if the defensive player isn’t engaged with another blocker.

    “As long as I don’t do it from the back — if I’m in front of him I can do it,” said Junius Coston, the Packers’ possible starter at right guard.

    The only live cut blocking the Packers will do is in games, because even in training camp, teams don’t cut block their own players. With the blocking dummies, they can simulate the technique of a cut block, but they can’t simulate hitting a moving target.

    “Keep your feet moving,” right tackle Mark Tauscher said in describing how to cut block. “A lot of times what happens is you’ll dive, and when you’re diving, you’re not coming through it, and that’s when you can look foolish. Running your feet through and ripping your arms, that’s what they want; that’s what you try to do.”
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

  • #2
    There are going to be some pissed off DLmen when they start getting their knees cut. It's one of those things that as a defender, you have to be prepared for. I know they're going to get pissed, but maybe they should just fall over instead of trying to run through it.
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    • #3
      I really don't like the idea of cut blocking, but I am going to have to get used to it I guess. If they do it the right way I guuess it isn't dirty, but there is a fine line between the right way and the dirty way. I would hate for the Packers to get the repuation of being cheap.
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      • #4
        I saw that article to NickCollins,

        Unfortunately (IMO) that is the "nasty" part of our new blocking scheme, I have always hated it and the fact that teams don't even practice it against live personell should tell you all you need to know.

        I have ripped on the Bronco's OL in the past and now ours will have to deal with it trying to make sure they cut block cleanly and within the rules.

        PC

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        • #5
          Until the NFL acts.......

          Until the NFL acts.......and makes cut blocking illegal, I see no problem.

          If they do make it illegal - I'll still support the pack. Until then - I still support the pack and I hope that Jagz can teach, install, and execute the scheme better that anyone else before him.
          "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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          • #6
            Its legal. And I'll bet statistically, that cut blocking doesn't result in any more injuries than any other type of blocking.

            Those same crybaby defensive lineman that are complaining they could get hurt by being cut blocked would drive a QB into the ground as hard as they could if they knew they could get away with it. After all, a d-lineman's motto pretty much is to bash the other teams QB out of the game. Funny how the tune changes when someones trying to take you out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Row 67
              Its legal. And I'll bet statistically, that cut blocking doesn't result in any more injuries than any other type of blocking.

              Those same crybaby defensive lineman that are complaining they could get hurt by being cut blocked would drive a QB into the ground as hard as they could if they knew they could get away with it. After all, a d-lineman's motto pretty much is to bash the other teams QB out of the game. Funny how the tune changes when someones trying to take you out.
              Just ask Carson Palmer about the hit by Kimo Van Oelhofen (? spelling ?)
              in the Pittsburgh-Cinci playoff game. Or how Trent Green's 1999 campaign ended when Rodney Harrison submarined him in a meaningless pre-season game (thus paving the way for Kurt Warner).
              "What's one more torpedo in a sinking ship?"
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Row 67
                Its legal. And I'll bet statistically, that cut blocking doesn't result in any more injuries than any other type of blocking.
                So explain why it's never done live aginst their own team?


                Just becasue they don't need the extra practice?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Row 67
                  Its legal. And I'll bet statistically, that cut blocking doesn't result in any more injuries than any other type of blocking.
                  I agree. I haven't seen any statistical evidence that proves defensive players get injured more often...or even more seriously...when playing against cut blocking schemes.

                  It is usually the DL that are the first ones looking to take the head off a QB on a turnover. They say that the QB needs to keep his head on a swivel. Well...the same applies to them. If the defender doesn't want to get injured, then he needs to keep his eyes open in front of him and when someone goes down to cut block him, he needs to fall forward and take the weight off his feet.

                  I see no reason to take LEGAL cut blocks out of the game. Illegal blocks made against linemen who are engaged, or from behind, should be penalized severely.
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                  • #10
                    What are the penalties for illegal cut blocking during a game?


                    Are they steep?
                    "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      Originally posted by Row 67
                      Its legal. And I'll bet statistically, that cut blocking doesn't result in any more injuries than any other type of blocking.
                      I agree. I haven't seen any statistical evidence that proves defensive players get injured more often...or even more seriously...when playing against cut blocking schemes.

                      It is usually the DL that are the first ones looking to take the head off a QB on a turnover. They say that the QB needs to keep his head on a swivel. Well...the same applies to them. If the defender doesn't want to get injured, then he needs to keep his eyes open in front of him and when someone goes down to cut block him, he needs to fall forward and take the weight off his feet.

                      I see no reason to take LEGAL cut blocks out of the game. Illegal blocks made against linemen who are engaged, or from behind, should be penalized severely.

                      Leaper, I'll ask you then, why does the team not do it in practice in live drills if it's no more dangerous than any other block?

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                      • #12
                        For a moment i thought the Jaguars were instlling the cut block.

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                        • #13
                          RASTAK WROTE: So explain why it's never done live aginst their own team?.


                          Because they're saving it for Erasmus James.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            RASTAK WROTE: So explain why it's never done live aginst their own team?.


                            Because they're saving it for Erasmus James.
                            and anybody else in purple
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jpopp
                              Originally posted by BallHawk
                              RASTAK WROTE: So explain why it's never done live aginst their own team?.


                              Because they're saving it for Erasmus James.
                              and anybody else in purple

                              Exactly, it's meant to kill.............anyone argueing otherwise is denying the facts.

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