Packers, Favre likely to split

[Old School]

I read a comment posted on Fox Sports that made sense. If Favre wants to be free to call the shots, he should buy back his contract. That would be the business like approach.

On the other hand, if you're a weasel.........

[motife]

Mike McCarthy announces Matt Flynn to start
August 4, 2008 by awhayes
“Our sources” just confirmed that Mike McCarthy has promised the 2008 starting QB role to rookie Matt Flynn “until he gets hurt”. McCarthy noted that he bases most decisions on starting roles for each position on the performance at Family Night. Morency will be joining Flynn in the backfield based on his per carry average of 29 and Patrick Lee will start at all 4 secondary positions, occasionally helped by Charlie Peprah. Alfred Malone will start on the line and nobody will punt. When pressed for more on the reasoning for starting Flynn, McCarthy pointed out that Flynn doesn’t wear a totally prohibitive, giant knee brace (Brohm) make poor hair-experimentation decisions (Rodgers) and has not recently behaved like a “flippin’ 5 year old”.

[imscott72]

Yes. Maybe McCarthy has a spine after all. We'll see.

Yeah someone is gonna look pretty foolish after their cuss filled rant towards TT and MM if they stand their ground..

[The Leaper]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

Favre seems to say the right thing, but to me his actions show he does not really mean it. If he really cared about the impact he was having on the team, he would at least talk to the potential trade partners the Packers have identified, and would provide the Packers with a list of acceptable trade destinations. If the reports are true that he has done neither of these, he really does not care how this fiasco affects the team.

I think Favre still wants to play for Green Bay...and was hoping the team would eventually come around. I have no idea how someone can characterize Favre has "not really meaning it" when they have no real clue what has been said in private discussions.

Favre probably doesn't really want to go play for Tampa or the Jets. I don't think he really wants to go play for the Vikings either, despite what some of the yahoos here seem to think.

He wants to play football. He would like to play in Green Bay. Green Bay doesn't want him. After 16 seasons, he's having a difficult time reconciling that. I would too.

I also think you are overestimating the impact this has had on the team. It probably has weighed on Rodgers...but he's going to have alot weighing on him this season regardless. The rest of the team? It's out of their control...and they have more important things to worry about, like getting themselves ready for the season.

I think it is much more of a distraction for the fans than it is the players.

[imscott72]

If he cares about the rest of the team, great.

They do have a game coming up in less than a week. Even though it's only pre-season, this is an unneeded distraction.

Releasing him so he can go to Minny for nothing is out. Unless Minny offers a king's ransom is out.

Favre forced the reinstatement, he waived his leverage on where he can go. If the Pack sends him somewhere other than Minny, then he has to retire for good or accept the trade. If they find no suitable trade partners, then #4 has to deal with the coach's decision.

If this is true, then McCarthy is the opposite of how he was portrayed yesterday in the GB sports talk shows - spineless and not a man of his word.

They need to resolve this NOW.

The queens aren't stupid, why give up a draft pick if they can get him for free? The Pack will have to release him, it would be too much of a circus if they didn't, just like the Chargers cut Drew Brees. They might give up a 6th rounder just to ensure they, and not some other team, can claim him.

Exactly. I don't think they'll find a trade partner at all with teams knowing he's not wanted and will likely be released. I personally think the Packers are idiots for releasing a 3 time (nearly 4 time) MVP, but what do I know. It's too bad they couldn't work something out and pay Arod to stick around a little longer. I just hope it's not an ego thing with TT and MM.

[MOBB DEEP]

I read a comment posted on Fox Sports that made sense. If Favre wants to be free to call the shots, he should buy back his contract. That would be the business like approach.

On the other hand, if you're a weasel.........

dont b so hard on TT

[ND72]

If he cares about the rest of the team, great.

They do have a game coming up in less than a week. Even though it's only pre-season, this is an unneeded distraction.

Releasing him so he can go to Minny for nothing is out. Unless Minny offers a king's ransom is out.

Favre forced the reinstatement, he waived his leverage on where he can go. If the Pack sends him somewhere other than Minny, then he has to retire for good or accept the trade. If they find no suitable trade partners, then #4 has to deal with the coach's decision.

If this is true, then McCarthy is the opposite of how he was portrayed yesterday in the GB sports talk shows - spineless and not a man of his word.

They need to resolve this NOW.

The queens aren't stupid, why give up a draft pick if they can get him for free? The Pack will have to release him, it would be too much of a circus if they didn't, just like the Chargers cut Drew Brees. They might give up a 6th rounder just to ensure they, and not some other team, can claim him.

Exactly. I don't think they'll find a trade partner at all with teams knowing he's not wanted and will likely be released. I personally think the Packers are idiots for releasing a 3 time (nearly 4 time) MVP, but what do I know. It's too bad they couldn't work something out and pay Arod to stick around a little longer. I just hope it's not an ego thing with TT and MM.

again, we're all going off of speculation, we don't know anything yet. Early July, Jay Glazer reported the trade with Favre & Bucs was already completed......

[imscott72]

If he cares about the rest of the team, great.

They do have a game coming up in less than a week. Even though it's only pre-season, this is an unneeded distraction.

Releasing him so he can go to Minny for nothing is out. Unless Minny offers a king's ransom is out.

Favre forced the reinstatement, he waived his leverage on where he can go. If the Pack sends him somewhere other than Minny, then he has to retire for good or accept the trade. If they find no suitable trade partners, then #4 has to deal with the coach's decision.

If this is true, then McCarthy is the opposite of how he was portrayed yesterday in the GB sports talk shows - spineless and not a man of his word.

They need to resolve this NOW.

The queens aren't stupid, why give up a draft pick if they can get him for free? The Pack will have to release him, it would be too much of a circus if they didn't, just like the Chargers cut Drew Brees. They might give up a 6th rounder just to ensure they, and not some other team, can claim him.

Exactly. I don't think they'll find a trade partner at all with teams knowing he's not wanted and will likely be released. I personally think the Packers are idiots for releasing a 3 time (nearly 4 time) MVP, but what do I know. It's too bad they couldn't work something out and pay Arod to stick around a little longer. I just hope it's not an ego thing with TT and MM.

again, we're all going off of speculation, we don't know anything yet. Early July, Jay Glazer reported the trade with Favre & Bucs was already completed......

I realize we don't know anything yet, but read between the lines. A 5 hour meeting which caused MM to postpone a team meeting? You know how important those things are to him. Things obviously weren't going as planned.

[Ballboy]

I'm not so sure Glazer knows what he is talking about here.

Clayton reported the direct opposite of this and thought that Brett maybe the starter on opening day.

[Patler]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

I think Favre still wants to play for Green Bay...and was hoping the team would eventually come around. I have no idea how someone can characterize Favre has "not really meaning it" when they have no real clue what has been said in private discussions.

Favre probably doesn't really want to go play for Tampa or the Jets. I don't think he really wants to go play for the Vikings either, despite what some of the yahoos here seem to think.

He wants to play football. He would like to play in Green Bay. Green Bay doesn't want him. After 16 seasons, he's having a difficult time reconciling that. I would too.

I also think you are overestimating the impact this has had on the team. It probably has weighed on Rodgers...but he's going to have alot weighing on him this season regardless. The rest of the team? It's out of their control...and they have more important things to worry about, like getting themselves ready for the season.

I think it is much more of a distraction for the fans than it is the players.

I didn't say it has affected the team. In fact, I agree that to now this probably has affected the fans more than the players; however, eventually that will change. The constant distractions, mixed feelings about Favre, MM, TT, etc. will impact the team. It has to if this goes on and on.

My point was this: he says he doesn't want to affect the team, but his actions (or inactions) show that he really doesn't care what the impact is on the team. That does not rely on what he has said in private converstation. It is based on his reported actions or inactions. If reports are true (and it is all we have to form our opinions on) Favre has been totally uncooperative in the Packers attempts to trade him. Again, I'm not saying he has to ACCEPT whatever the Packers line up, but to refuse to talk to the few interested teams, and to refuse to provide alternatives is totally uncooperative. That simply prolongs the whole thing, and the longer it goes on, the more likely of an adverse effect on the team.

Finally, if we are allowed to express opinions on here only if we have access to all the inside info, then we can discuss nothing. We certainly can not discuss the players' performances, game situations and the like because not only do we not have access to the players, we have no information about the playbook, players assignments, etc. We might as well shut the board down.

[The Leaper]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

My point was this: he says he doesn't want to affect the team, but his actions (or inactions) show that he really doesn't care what the impact is on the team.

Really?

What about the fact that he didn't try to force his way into camp immediately and KINDLY accepted Thompson's request to put it off?

Or what about KINDLY accepting the commissioner bending over backwards for the team in terms of waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to reinstate Favre after he had turned in his paperwork?

I think Favre has been very respectful of the team in recent weeks, and has gone out of his way to limit distractions.

[The Leaper]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

Again, I'm not saying he has to ACCEPT whatever the Packers line up, but to refuse to talk to the few interested teams, and to refuse to provide alternatives is totally uncooperative.

Well, you can argue that Green Bay is totally uncooperative by not allowing Favre back to compete for the job. Favre has a contract with the team, and by all accounts is just as good a QB as Rodgers.

The point is that both sides have RIGHTS to do certain things...and NEITHER side is handling this in a way that will bring quick closure. I object to how you make it so one sided against Favre.

[Chevelle2]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

My point was this: he says he doesn't want to affect the team, but his actions (or inactions) show that he really doesn't care what the impact is on the team.

Really?

What about the fact that he didn't try to force his way into camp immediately and KINDLY accepted Thompson's request to put it off?

Or what about KINDLY accepting the commissioner bending over backwards for the team in terms of waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to reinstate Favre after he had turned in his paperwork?

I think Favre has been very respectful of the team in recent weeks, and has gone out of his way to limit distractions.

What about speaking through Bus.

What about speaking through Scott, Al Jones, and Bonita.

What about ripping management on Fox News?

[MOBB DEEP]

mike and mike discussing glazers article now

[cpk1994]

I'm not so sure Glazer knows what he is talking about here.

Clayton reported the direct opposite of this and thought that Brett maybe the starter on opening day.

OF course Clayton would say that. He works for FavreSPN. They spin everything in Favre's favor.