Packers, Favre likely to split

[boiga]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

Yep, but they didn't have a crystal ball. They seemed to make efforts to get a deal done earlier. Favre basically killed those efforts be refusing to even talk with interested teams or direct the Packers toward any teams he might be interested in.

The Packers could trade Favre whenever they want to...he does not have a "no-trade clause" in his contract.

Yeah, they might not get anything in return for him...but they could end the whole distraction that they seem to be so concerned about.

Not at all. If Favre refused to report for his new team, his rights would have gotten returned to the Packers. So, he had complete veto power over any trade.

We couldn't get rid of him until he reinstated.

[cpk1994]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

Yep, but they didn't have a crystal ball. They seemed to make efforts to get a deal done earlier. Favre basically killed those efforts be refusing to even talk with interested teams or direct the Packers toward any teams he might be interested in.

The Packers could trade Favre whenever they want to...he does not have a "no-trade clause" in his contract.

Yeah, they might not get anything in return for him...but they could end the whole distraction that they seem to be so concerned about.

Not at all. If Favre refused to report for his new team, his rights would have gotten returned to the Packers. So, he had complete veto power over any trade.

We couldn't get rid of him until he reinstated.

NO they wouldn't or have you forgotten the Jake Plummer trade?

EDIT: Mis read you sorry.

[imscott72]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

I understand your point, but I can't agree with the kindly part. I mean the guy tried to publicly embarrass TT by claiming that he was begging him to stay away and was afraid to lose his job. How kind was that? I agree with Patler that Favre's action's contradict his words. Too many times he has come off as trying to twist the knife and/or chosen to use the media rather than work with the Packers.

And I see the same stuff from Green Bay.

Seriously...Mark Murphy was practically kissing Favre's ass on Sunday. The Packers were "welcoming" him back in their statements and public interviews.

However, it was all a lie. Favre is not welcomed back. In that respect, I can understand how Favre views the Packer's side as full of lies.

I have no problem with the Packers "moving on"...but STOP ALREADY with this damn media PC game of trying to make it look like you are "trying" to work this out with Favre when there really is no chance of that happening.

The Packers could've ended all this a month ago by coming out and saying "Rodgers is our starter. Favre has retired and no longer will be viewed as a part of this team going forward." Then trade him to Timbuktu and be DONE with it.

Instead, they've played pussyfoot...which is why I have zero sympathy for the Packers in terms of "distractions". It's as much their fault IMO as it is Favre's.

I wonder if the "scenarios" that MM said existed where Brett could remain on the team still exist. I'm surprised they haven't rescheduled the PC yet because they want it settled by practice today at 2.

[hoosier]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

And I see the same stuff from Green Bay.

Seriously...Mark Murphy was practically kissing Favre's ass on Sunday. The Packers were "welcoming" him back in their statements and public interviews.

However, it was all a lie. Favre is not welcomed back. In that respect, I can understand how Favre views the Packer's side as full of lies.

I have no problem with the Packers "moving on"...but STOP ALREADY with this damn media PC game of trying to make it look like you are "trying" to work this out with Favre when there really is no chance of that happening.

The Packers could've ended all this a month ago by coming out and saying "Rodgers is our starter. Favre has retired and no longer will be viewed as a part of this team going forward." Then trade him to Timbuktu and be DONE with it.

Instead, they've played pussyfoot...which is why I have zero sympathy for the Packers in terms of "distractions". It's as much their fault IMO as it is Favre's.

What do you want them to do, announce to the world that they're sick of Favre's shtick and ready to ship him off to the highest bidder? That would be a great way of driving down his market value and alienating a good portion of their fan base.

You're being unreasonable and naive if you think the Packers can simply ignore public opinion and say whatever it is they truly think about Favre, which--I'm speculating here--is probably close to "He's acting like a selfish, spoiled, inconsiderate, indecisive little child." Murphy didn't "kiss" any part of Favre: he was cordial (welcoming him back) while also pointing out that Favre's indecision has put the Packers in a very difficult position. That's hardly a flattering description of the team's superstar.

You call what the Packers are doing a "lie" and a "media game," but why not call it diplomacy? In the current situation Favre and the Packers are adversaries, but there are many reasons for them not to show their cards and to treat Favre with measured respect.

[sharpe1027]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

Yep, but they didn't have a crystal ball. They seemed to make efforts to get a deal done earlier. Favre basically killed those efforts be refusing to even talk with interested teams or direct the Packers toward any teams he might be interested in.

The Packers could trade Favre whenever they want to...he does not have a "no-trade clause" in his contract.

Yeah, they might not get anything in return for him...but they could end the whole distraction that they seem to be so concerned about.

Sure, they can finally trade him now, but he only recently got reinstated. They've only had a day, most trades take several days or even weeks to figure out, this one is likely even more complicated than most.

I guess I'm not following your logic. You were suggesting first that the Packers should have said (or done) something different from the start. What exactly did they do or say that you did not agree with again?

[The Leaper]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

I guess I'm not following your logic. You were suggesting first that the Packers should have said (or done) something different from the start. What exactly did they do or say that you did not agree with again?

They've drug this whole thing out because they are trying to "diplomatically" get rid of Favre without being painted as the ones who wanted to get rid of Favre.

The distraction and circus currently happening could've been prevented IMO.

[sharpe1027]

Re: Packers, Favre likely to split

They've drug this whole thing out because they are trying to "diplomatically" get rid of Favre without being painted as the ones who wanted to get rid of Favre.

The distraction and circus currently happening could've been prevented IMO.

I think the whole thing is drug out because they can't reach an agreement with Favre and/or other teams. The whole media thing is what it is, they said they respect Favre but that Rodgers is their QB. The could have told the media that Favre is really an alien and it would not have made any difference, IMO.

[Deputy Nutz]

Again, this is just pathetic. The Packers keeps fucking this up more and more, regardless how you feel about Favre, the Packers once again can't clean this mess up.

I see Aaron Rodgers falling apart at the seems. Not his fault mind you, but with Favre retired I had the thought that he would do reasonably well in his first season, playoffs, Division title, but now? Way to much pressure. He is fucked with that 800 pound gorilla in the room.

I also wish Murphy had a spine. Harlan would have handled this back in March.

[The Leaper]

Again, this is just pathetic. The Packers keeps fucking this up more and more, regardless how you feel about Favre, the Packers once again can't clean this mess up.

I see Aaron Rodgers falling apart at the seems. Not his fault mind you, but with Favre retired I had the thought that he would do reasonably well in his first season, playoffs, Division title, but now? Way to much pressure. He is fucked with that 800 pound gorilla in the room.

I also wish Murphy had a spine. Harlan would have handled this back in March.

I agree with you completely on this Nutz. The Packers lack of backbone in dealing with this EFFECTIVELY is harming Rodgers.

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Agreed with the Nutroll

[BallHawk]

Murphy looks like the spineless one in this situation.

McCarthy has proven he's the one with the backbone. He's stood firm in this the whole way through. Props to him.