Favre saga update

[cpk1994]

This article made me feel pretty good about Favre, which I haven't done in a long while. He sounds reasonable, and I don't know how people are reading this as badmouthing A-Rod. He says he understands why A-Rod's the starter now, he's not bitching about that, and Favre of course thinks he'd win an open competition, which anyone with a football brain would know is true.

At bottom, Favre wants to play with someone else, and he'd like to say who that someone else is. Favre is a 16-year vet. Why do people react so violently about the idea of a 16-year employee, in a field where the average tenure is about 5-6 years, having a say in where he'll work next? Each and every one of us would like the same courtesy, and most of us don't have 3 MVP awards on the mantel (I was employee of the month once, but that's about it).
And so what if it's the Queens? Honestly, so friggin what. Are we such pussies that we're afraid ol' man Favre'll whip our ass? Screw that. Let him go there, with the blessing. Just make sure he buckles his chinstrap come Monday night.

Heres the problem with that. I agree with you that they should trade him to Minnesota and be done with it, but if TT does that, the PR hit would be gimnormus not to mention its bad business. You never improve your rival at your own expense. One of the Packers goals is to win the division. Winning the division can help you tremendously interms of home field, possible bye in achieving the ultiimate goal, the super bowl. Do you think it would be easier for the Packers to win the divsion if Jackson is leading the Vikes or Favre? Anyone with a brain knowsthe answer to that
one.

Interesting. Sunday you were on here proclaiming that you were done with him and they should go ahead and trade him to Minny...

Read the part I bolded in my post genius! I hope your foot tastes good cause you just ate it.

[packers11]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Practice begins without Favre

Chants of “We want Brett” are heard by the offense as they go through initial drills at Clarke Hinkle Field.

Brett Favre, however, is not here, having driven away from the stadium about 1:30 p.m. today. Neither is coach Mike McCarthy, who was believed to be meeting with Favre throughout the morning. Quarterbacks coach Tom Clements is filling in for McCarthy, bringing in plays to the offense.

2:10 p.m.

Players were smiling and laughing as the Favre chants began after warm-ups, but the chants were intermittent at best.

New additions not dressed for practice: defensive tackle Johnny Jolly and tight end Tory Humphrey who missed practice last week but was back for Family Night scrimmage. Also out are receiver Jake Allen (groin), center Scott Wells (back), Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (knee), defensive tackle Ryan Pickett (hamstring) and defensive tackle Justin Harrell (back). Running back DeShawn Wynn (concussion) is back in pads.

So is starting running back Ryan Grant, who missed the first week while waiting for a contract.

That means Favre is the only player on the roster not in attendance.

-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com

[Pacopete4]

The only question that needs answered is:

Who gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to go to the Super Bowl in the 2008 Season?

It is that cut and dried. Favre and the management can work on their relationship on the side if need be. All of this posturing by the management has looked ridiculous and totally the opposite of what the end goal of the franchise should be every season: To win the Super Bowl.

Once you get past all of the bullshit, once you realize that Rodgers hasn't looked all that great in training camp, you need to do what is best for the team. That isn't letting Favre go, trading him, or paying him off. It's getting his ass on the field to make sure he still has it so you can move forward this season. The Packers would do well to just STOP all of the bullshit. If it is believed that it will be a media circus, CLOSE THE PRACTICE, they do it ALL the time.

It's time to get past this, the season starts soon and all the Packers are doing is wasting time hoping Favre goes away when they should concerned about fielding the best team possible to make a run at the Super Bowl. anything less is unacceptable.

BINGO MERLIN!!!!

[cpk1994]

The only question that needs answered is:

Who gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to go to the Super Bowl in the 2008 Season?

It is that cut and dried. Favre and the management can work on their relationship on the side if need be. All of this posturing by the management has looked ridiculous and totally the opposite of what the end goal of the franchise should be every season: To win the Super Bowl.

Once you get past all of the bullshit, once you realize that Rodgers hasn't looked all that great in training camp, you need to do what is best for the team. That isn't letting Favre go, trading him, or paying him off. It's getting his ass on the field to make sure he still has it so you can move forward this season. The Packers would do well to just STOP all of the bullshit. If it is believed that it will be a media circus, CLOSE THE PRACTICE, they do it ALL the time.

It's time to get past this, the season starts soon and all the Packers are doing is wasting time hoping Favre goes away when they should concerned about fielding the best team possible to make a run at the Super Bowl. anything less is unacceptable.

Hey, why don't you get off Favre's cock and tell him to knock off all his bullshit?

[imscott72]

This article made me feel pretty good about Favre, which I haven't done in a long while. He sounds reasonable, and I don't know how people are reading this as badmouthing A-Rod. He says he understands why A-Rod's the starter now, he's not bitching about that, and Favre of course thinks he'd win an open competition, which anyone with a football brain would know is true.

At bottom, Favre wants to play with someone else, and he'd like to say who that someone else is. Favre is a 16-year vet. Why do people react so violently about the idea of a 16-year employee, in a field where the average tenure is about 5-6 years, having a say in where he'll work next? Each and every one of us would like the same courtesy, and most of us don't have 3 MVP awards on the mantel (I was employee of the month once, but that's about it).
And so what if it's the Queens? Honestly, so friggin what. Are we such pussies that we're afraid ol' man Favre'll whip our ass? Screw that. Let him go there, with the blessing. Just make sure he buckles his chinstrap come Monday night.

Heres the problem with that. I agree with you that they should trade him to Minnesota and be done with it, but if TT does that, the PR hit would be gimnormus not to mention its bad business. You never improve your rival at your own expense. One of the Packers goals is to win the division. Winning the division can help you tremendously interms of home field, possible bye in achieving the ultiimate goal, the super bowl. Do you think it would be easier for the Packers to win the divsion if Jackson is leading the Vikes or Favre? Anyone with a brain knowsthe answer to that
one.

Interesting. Sunday you were on here proclaiming that you were done with him and they should go ahead and trade him to Minny...

Read the part I bolded in my post genius! I hope your foot tastes good cause you just ate it.

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

[Pacopete4]

The only question that needs answered is:

Who gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to go to the Super Bowl in the 2008 Season?

It is that cut and dried. Favre and the management can work on their relationship on the side if need be. All of this posturing by the management has looked ridiculous and totally the opposite of what the end goal of the franchise should be every season: To win the Super Bowl.

Once you get past all of the bullshit, once you realize that Rodgers hasn't looked all that great in training camp, you need to do what is best for the team. That isn't letting Favre go, trading him, or paying him off. It's getting his ass on the field to make sure he still has it so you can move forward this season. The Packers would do well to just STOP all of the bullshit. If it is believed that it will be a media circus, CLOSE THE PRACTICE, they do it ALL the time.

It's time to get past this, the season starts soon and all the Packers are doing is wasting time hoping Favre goes away when they should concerned about fielding the best team possible to make a run at the Super Bowl. anything less is unacceptable.

Hey, why don't you get off Favre's cock and tell him to knock off all his bullshit?

Why don't you get off the Packers cock and tell them to knock off all the bullshit?


IT GOES BOTH WAYS... IF WE HAVEN'T LEARNED THAT BY NOW... THAN WE HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THIS WHOLE SITUATION

[Gunakor]

So, who do you guys think TT will choose with the #1 overall pick in next year's draft?

He'll trade it away, undoubtedly, but it's a moot issue because there's no way this team finishes the season with 3 or less wins. Distraction or no distraction, Favre or no Favre, this team finishes at .500 or better. There is far too much talent on this team for them not to. Thier coach is far too good a coach for them not to.

[imscott72]

The only question that needs answered is:

Who gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to go to the Super Bowl in the 2008 Season?

It is that cut and dried. Favre and the management can work on their relationship on the side if need be. All of this posturing by the management has looked ridiculous and totally the opposite of what the end goal of the franchise should be every season: To win the Super Bowl.

Once you get past all of the bullshit, once you realize that Rodgers hasn't looked all that great in training camp, you need to do what is best for the team. That isn't letting Favre go, trading him, or paying him off. It's getting his ass on the field to make sure he still has it so you can move forward this season. The Packers would do well to just STOP all of the bullshit. If it is believed that it will be a media circus, CLOSE THE PRACTICE, they do it ALL the time.

It's time to get past this, the season starts soon and all the Packers are doing is wasting time hoping Favre goes away when they should concerned about fielding the best team possible to make a run at the Super Bowl. anything less is unacceptable.

Hey, why don't you get off Favre's cock and tell him to knock off all his bullshit?

Why don't you shut your f'ing piehole and quit attacking people on here just because they want the best QB on the field for week one? Grow the fuck up..

[Pacopete4]

So, who do you guys think TT will choose with the #1 overall pick in next year's draft?

He'll trade it away, undoubtedly, but it's a moot issue because there's no way this team finishes the season with 3 or less wins. Distraction or no distraction, Favre or no Favre, this team finishes at .500 or better. There is far too much talent on this team for them not to. Thier coach is far too good a coach for them not to.

I can see 6-8 wins with Rodgers at the helm... which makes me wanna throw my computer with what it could be like with Favre at the helm


We are kidding ourselves if we think Rodgers is going to step in, read defenses hes never seen, throw clutch balls, and lead this team to anything more than that... if you do guess that, you're going way out on a limb

[boiga]

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

They have a point, cpk. You seem to be getting what you want at this juncture so it'd make sense to lower the hostility.

Favre or no Favre, it's just a game.



Also, I'm with gunakor. Tarvaris could get to .500 with this team. Rodgers will make mistakes but we should be fine this year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

They have a point, cpk. You seem to be getting what you want at this juncture so it'd make sense to lower the hostility.

Favre or no Favre, it's just a game.



Also, I'm with gunakor. Tarvaris could get to .500 with this team. Rodgers will make mistakes but we should be fine this year.

I think we have zero idea how good Jackson and Rodgers are going to be. They both have big upsides, JAckson has a ton of talent. They could both be flops. Rodgers is surrounded by a lot of talent, he is a safer bet.

[cpk1994]

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

They have a point, cpk. You seem to be getting what you want at this juncture so it'd make sense to lower the hostility.

Favre or no Favre, it's just a game.



Also, I'm with gunakor. Tarvaris could get to .500 with this team. Rodgers will make mistakes but we should be fine this year.

I did. I gave Noodle a reasonable well thought out synopsis for why TT doesn't trade Favre to the Vikings and I got jumped. I then simply returrned fire. Everything else is just banter no worse than BallHawk and Scot Campbell. Lamer, probably. Worse, no.

[Pacopete4]

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

They have a point, cpk. You seem to be getting what you want at this juncture so it'd make sense to lower the hostility.

Favre or no Favre, it's just a game.



Also, I'm with gunakor. Tarvaris could get to .500 with this team. Rodgers will make mistakes but we should be fine this year.

I think we have zero idea how good Jackson and Rodgers are going to be. They both have big upsides, JAckson has a ton of talent. They could both be flops. Rodgers is surrounded by a lot of talent, he is a safer bet.

Great point.. the thing that Jackson may have over Rodgers is that defense the Vikes have.. they are gonna be tough

[Gunakor]

The only question that needs answered is:

Who gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to go to the Super Bowl in the 2008 Season?

It is that cut and dried. Favre and the management can work on their relationship on the side if need be. All of this posturing by the management has looked ridiculous and totally the opposite of what the end goal of the franchise should be every season: To win the Super Bowl.

Once you get past all of the bullshit, once you realize that Rodgers hasn't looked all that great in training camp, you need to do what is best for the team. That isn't letting Favre go, trading him, or paying him off. It's getting his ass on the field to make sure he still has it so you can move forward this season. The Packers would do well to just STOP all of the bullshit. If it is believed that it will be a media circus, CLOSE THE PRACTICE, they do it ALL the time.

It's time to get past this, the season starts soon and all the Packers are doing is wasting time hoping Favre goes away when they should concerned about fielding the best team possible to make a run at the Super Bowl. anything less is unacceptable.

Merlin, there will be a football season in 2009 too, so it's not just about who gives the Packers the best chance to win in 2008. What if we brought Favre back this year and did NOT win a SB, and then next offseason we have to deal with this whole bullshit media circus yet again... I'm sorry, but IMO it isn't worth it. A win in the Super Bowl is the only thing that would justify bringing Favre back this year, and the odds are against Favre. Favre has had how many opportunities in the last decade? He hasn't gotten that job done since 1997, so what makes you believe that 2008 will be any different? We are not going to a SB this year guys, and it doesn't matter who our QB is. Get over it, and start looking ahead of you instead of staring at the rearview mirror. Favre is not a SB caliber QB anymore. And I have a decade of history to back me up on that.

[bbbffl66]

[quote="Harlan Huckleby"]

Yeah I missed that, but why are such a little asshole? Your "I hate Favre and fuck everyone else that doesn't" schtick is old.

They have a point, cpk. You seem to be getting what you want at this juncture so it'd make sense to lower the hostility.

Favre or no Favre, it's just a game.



Also, I'm with gunakor. Tarvaris could get to .500 with this team. Rodgers will make mistakes but we should be fine this year.

I think we have zero idea how good Jackson and Rodgers are going to be. They both have big upsides, JAckson has a ton of talent. They could both be flops. Rodgers is surrounded by a lot of talent, he is a safer bet.

As much as it pains to say, Minny's O line is superior and my guess is the A Peterson is a step or 5 ahead of R Grant. I think Minny's talent is prolly a little better than ours.