The Laughing Stock of the NFL

[Zool]

No one here is biased. I have no beef with Rodgers besides him being a girly man cake boy. If he wins games, I'm cool with him. I'm upset with the treatment of a legend, and think its foolish and a step backwards to keep playing for tomorrow.

You are absolutely biased against Rodgers. I can respect that, but I cant respect your denial of it.

[VegasPackFan]

There's no excuse for that behavior. It's totally ignorant.

I think we will find out that there actually are alot of Favre fans that never were really Packer fans. I am not making that judgement on anyone here, but I have actually met people that say they became Pack fans because they loved watching and rooting for Favre. I wonder how many of them will stay on the GB bandwagon now.

[Freak Out]

Booing Rodgers is dumb, but at the same time TT isn't on the field so they cannot boo him. I doubt anyone truly has ill-will towards Rodgers outside of him being a cakeboy.

Cakeboy? Is that the well groomed guy with his bride on top of all the wedding cakes? I never looked that good in a Tux.

[bobblehead]

WE'RE HAVING A WITCH HUNT FOR FAVRE FANS!

It's like McCarthyism all over again.

LordFavreism is what we'll call it.

Incidentally, if not even ironically we can still call it mccarthyism.....

Hey, you, with the Brett Fave avatar!

You'll be the first to burn....

Hoosier picked it for me....burn him.

[bobblehead]

Brett Favre - Does any other quarterback have the ball slip out of his hands this much? As Steve Czaban joked this morning, even though Favre may be a little crazy in his head thinking coming back to the "most talented team he's been a part of" was a good idea, his hands think he is out of his fricking mind. Seriously though, I am really sick of seeing retarded fumbles like that get shown on sports center. That seems to happen to Favre more than any other player. Is it the thumb injury? Also, why the hell are you throwing a ball with no touch on it? When your receiver are 15 yards away you don't need to rifle it. I can count 3 first downs without reviewing any tape that were rocketed balls that weren't necessary that the player did not hold on to. It'll be popular to blame the receivers, but if you don't have guys that can hang onto the ball you need to adjust your game. Yuck.

Harv you've been posting like a real first rate jagoff lately. You know damn well that Favre is one of the best players to ever play, and the Packers have a very good chance at going to and winning the super bowl. Last year's cast was young, most of the core young guys will make HUGE advances this year. And you turn around and post this stupid bullshit? Give me a break man, you know you're doing it just to stir the pot.

That's a post from you two years ago.

That was a serious grade A power serving harvey....hope you don't dig into my past and find any of the stupid shit I have said and done.

[Partial]

No one here is biased. I have no beef with Rodgers besides him being a girly man cake boy. If he wins games, I'm cool with him. I'm upset with the treatment of a legend, and think its foolish and a step backwards to keep playing for tomorrow.

You are absolutely biased against Rodgers. I can respect that, but I cant respect your denial of it.

Really, I have no bias. I hope he wins. I hope we get a super bowl. How can one be bias against someone who has never won a game? Talk is cheap and potential is just that. I'm a show me guy. He hasn't shown anything yet. Favre consistently displayed that he was one of the best of the best of the best, even at 38 or however old the geezer is.

[Guiness]

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

Ya, well I remember when the vets in Buffalo expressed their supreme confidence in Rob Johnson.

Just sayin'

[Partial]

Brett Favre - Does any other quarterback have the ball slip out of his hands this much? As Steve Czaban joked this morning, even though Favre may be a little crazy in his head thinking coming back to the "most talented team he's been a part of" was a good idea, his hands think he is out of his fricking mind. Seriously though, I am really sick of seeing retarded fumbles like that get shown on sports center. That seems to happen to Favre more than any other player. Is it the thumb injury? Also, why the hell are you throwing a ball with no touch on it? When your receiver are 15 yards away you don't need to rifle it. I can count 3 first downs without reviewing any tape that were rocketed balls that weren't necessary that the player did not hold on to. It'll be popular to blame the receivers, but if you don't have guys that can hang onto the ball you need to adjust your game. Yuck.

Harv you've been posting like a real first rate jagoff lately. You know damn well that Favre is one of the best players to ever play, and the Packers have a very good chance at going to and winning the super bowl. Last year's cast was young, most of the core young guys will make HUGE advances this year. And you turn around and post this stupid bullshit? Give me a break man, you know you're doing it just to stir the pot.

That's a post from you two years ago.

That was a serious grade A power serving harvey....hope you don't dig into my past and find any of the stupid shit I have said and done.

OK.. I respectfully disagree. Favre had a bad year trying to make plays... He threw 28 picks in that year. Yuck. But last year, with talent around him, he played one of the most impressive years in the history of quarterbacking. He still has it and is as talented as ever. The only thing that changes is the talent around him.

[bobblehead]

Brett Favre - Does any other quarterback have the ball slip out of his hands this much? As Steve Czaban joked this morning, even though Favre may be a little crazy in his head thinking coming back to the "most talented team he's been a part of" was a good idea, his hands think he is out of his fricking mind. Seriously though, I am really sick of seeing retarded fumbles like that get shown on sports center. That seems to happen to Favre more than any other player. Is it the thumb injury? Also, why the hell are you throwing a ball with no touch on it? When your receiver are 15 yards away you don't need to rifle it. I can count 3 first downs without reviewing any tape that were rocketed balls that weren't necessary that the player did not hold on to. It'll be popular to blame the receivers, but if you don't have guys that can hang onto the ball you need to adjust your game. Yuck.

Harv you've been posting like a real first rate jagoff lately. You know damn well that Favre is one of the best players to ever play, and the Packers have a very good chance at going to and winning the super bowl. Last year's cast was young, most of the core young guys will make HUGE advances this year. And you turn around and post this stupid bullshit? Give me a break man, you know you're doing it just to stir the pot.

That's a post from you two years ago.

That was a serious grade A power serving harvey....hope you don't dig into my past and find any of the stupid shit I have said and done.

OK.. I respectfully disagree. Favre had a bad year trying to make plays... He threw 28 picks in that year. Yuck. But last year, with talent around him, he played one of the most impressive years in the history of quarterbacking. He still has it and is as talented as ever. The only thing that changes is the talent around him.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment...but I do respect you acknowledging the post. I think it was 29 picks, but if he would have thrown away about half of those we would have won more games...he was out of control and MM got him back in control....just like I said in the other thread. He should be kissing MM's feet and thanking MM and TT for putting him in a position to win another superbowl....but instead he retired.

I do not think he is as talented as ever, but he is capable of being a probowler still....IF HE LISTENS TO MM, but he doesn't want to, so he quit, now he wants to come back cuz he is pissed at MM for actually holding him accountable...he should have thanked him...but he quit. I see a reoccurring theme here.

[cpk1994]

I personally thought MM sounded like a tool and a pussy. He isn't mentally well blah blah blah aka Teddy doesn't want him so I'm going to be the guy to do his dirty work.

nO, the tool and a pussy was Mike Sherman. He left three years ago becuase of it.

[Zool]

No one here is biased. I have no beef with Rodgers besides him being a girly man cake boy. If he wins games, I'm cool with him. I'm upset with the treatment of a legend, and think its foolish and a step backwards to keep playing for tomorrow.

You are absolutely biased against Rodgers. I can respect that, but I cant respect your denial of it.

Really, I have no bias. I hope he wins. I hope we get a super bowl. How can one be bias against someone who has never won a game? Talk is cheap and potential is just that. I'm a show me guy. He hasn't shown anything yet. Favre consistently displayed that he was one of the best of the best of the best, even at 38 or however old the geezer is.

If you have no bias against Rodgers, you can stop calling him soft, injury prone and cake boy for now. Stop calling him TT's boy and like Aaron said "get the fuck on the bus".

[vince]

What is TT thinking????? OMG, the sky is falling, the SKY IS FALLING!!!!

It's like deja vu all over again.

[SkinBasket]

Brett Favre - Does any other quarterback have the ball slip out of his hands this much? As Steve Czaban joked this morning, even though Favre may be a little crazy in his head thinking coming back to the "most talented team he's been a part of" was a good idea, his hands think he is out of his fricking mind. Seriously though, I am really sick of seeing retarded fumbles like that get shown on sports center. That seems to happen to Favre more than any other player. Is it the thumb injury? Also, why the hell are you throwing a ball with no touch on it? When your receiver are 15 yards away you don't need to rifle it. I can count 3 first downs without reviewing any tape that were rocketed balls that weren't necessary that the player did not hold on to. It'll be popular to blame the receivers, but if you don't have guys that can hang onto the ball you need to adjust your game. Yuck.

Harv you've been posting like a real first rate jagoff lately. You know damn well that Favre is one of the best players to ever play, and the Packers have a very good chance at going to and winning the super bowl. Last year's cast was young, most of the core young guys will make HUGE advances this year. And you turn around and post this stupid bullshit? Give me a break man, you know you're doing it just to stir the pot.

That's a post from you two years ago.

[mmmdk]

Partial, did you read the transcript of MM's press conference, or listen to it if it was broadcast? If you did either of those, can you explain how MM's responses to the questions makes him in any way an "asshat"

And what is an "asshat," anyway?

Actually MM sounded incredible; great leader and communicator. TT should learn a few things from him

I think you hit the nail (pretty much); TT is very articulate and I consider TT honest yet this ordeal blew him away a bit. As for Favre, in my book, he lost credibility big time. Not on the field though plus most of his years in Green Bay were fine. Still, Favre and all the recent whining for nearly 5 years resulted in infantile and personal attacks on TT which he'll carry too as part of his legacy. Favre is human and very spoiled as are many Packer fans; 'cos here AR and I wish Rodgers the best along with the rest of the Packers.

PACKERS4EVER

[pbmax]

Actually, in the last three days, Favre has regained his footing with me. I agree with what McGinn is saying the football braintrust believes (that Favre cannot win at the highest levels anymore), but as for his character, he has restored some of my confidence.

He refused the 10 year 20-25 million licensing deal. Sure it may be on the table later, but there was easy money to be made now and he refused. One point.

He has maintained he wants to play and is considering other teams given that he feels he cannot return to Green Bay. One point.

Since its Tampa and the Jets, it would seem that he might have to restructure and that might mean that he gets less money early compared to his current deal. One point.

I have zero problem with Favre wanting to play to earn the big money. If I could, I would. I have no problem with him trying to put the games won, TDS and consectutive starts streaks past the point of threatened by Manning. I wouldn't want that jokester to break my records five years after I retire either.

At this point, if he is sincerely talking to the Jets and Bucs, my recommendation to T2 would be to give the Vikings a shot at an offer. They might blow the Jets away.