OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[mraynrand]

yes, I am not trying to discredit what they all did, but as a player and face of the franchise Favre sold the Packers world wide. People tuned in from all over the place to watch Favre play the game.

Favre was a phenom no doubt. Look at all the BFFFs who left this place after his career was finished.

[Deputy Nutz]

Favre was a phenom no doubt. Look at all the BFFFs who left this place after his career was finished.

Really? I just thought the internet passed this place by.

[mraynrand]

Really? I just thought the internet passed this place by.

coincidentally it passed this pale by about the time Favre left. Funny, that. But yeah, the 'internet' has mostly moved on... People are no longer inclined to speak in complete sentences or communicate fully realized thoughts.

[Patler]

PLEASE name names! Who exactly can be put in same category as Favre with regards to the resurrections? I know it sorta runs counter to my earlier intimation that the evolution of the game negates some players being labeled an all-time great, but how many HOF'ers did he play with by the way? BAFFLING that people want to ignore what Favre did for GB and the league in general.

Sorry, that is a debate I now avoid at all costs, because it never ends well.

You wrote: "how many HOF'ers did he play with by the way?" Who is the "he"? I suspect you want to turn this into a Starr vs. Favre debate, and I have no intention of participating in that. But, I will say this; all of the Packers of the '60s did play with a lot of HOF'ers. They also played against a lot of them almost every week. It's simply a numbers thing. The NFL consisted of about 600 players in any given week for much of the 1960s. Fewer at the beginning of the decade, more at the end of the decade. Each team (just about) had HOFers. The Bears had 5 in the '60s (I think) and they were an up and down team. For quite some time now, the NFL has consisted of about 1700 players in any given week. Yet, they still elect similar #s of players to the HOF each year (more or less). So, today's player plays with fewer HOF'ers, but he also plays against fewer in any given game.

Favre was the "Favre" even non-football fans came to know because of the media, and that is a hype that did not exist in the 1960's or before and was only just getting it's footing in the '70s and '80s. If the same media component was there in the '60s, Starr would not have been Favre, but he would have been the '60s version of Tom Brady. Hornung had a very high profile for his day, who knows what that would have been today. Nitschke too, for completely different reasons, was very high profile in the NFL. Of course, the dominating personality was Lombardi, who took cast offs from other teams and existing Packers who had accomplished nothing and turned them into immediate winners. That was an amazing turn around, as the '50s were a very dismal time for Packer followers as well. I hate to say "fans", because we weren't really fans in those days as we think of them today, just followers about what went on, because you might learn of it a day or two after it happened if it was a prominent event. Getting a draft list could take weeks.

I'm not ignoring what Favre did for GB. However, I do believe that other Packers have been just as important to the Packers being the Packers as Brett Favre was. Each in his own way, in his own time made the Packers what they are today. My knowledge only goes back to the coming of Lombardi ("Who?" I asked at the time.) I suspect that arguments can be made also for the importance of various Packers in the '20s, '30s and '40s. This is a franchise that was on the verge of extinction, and/or being something very different at numerous times in its history. Lombardi and the players of the '60s made it "Titletown", reviving what was last seen in the mid '40s. Harlan, Wolf and Favre were the keys to reviving it yet again; but football is such a team sport that others around them can not be ignored.

[Fritz]

Bob Harlan is the name you want. Without Bob Harlan there is no Ron Wolf. Without Ron Wolf, there's no Brett Favre, and no Reggie White, and no Antonio Freeman, Mark Chmura, and on and on the list goes - to Ted Thompson, McCarthy, Rodgers and beyond.

Well, then, let's say Bob Harlan's mother. She said "yes" to Bob's dad one fine day or night, and had she had a headache that time, we'd still be mired in the mess from the 70's and 80's.

Thanks, Bob's mom!

[mraynrand]

Well, then, let's say Bob Harlan's mother. She said "yes" to Bob's dad one fine day or night, and had she had a headache that time, we'd still be mired in the mess from the 70's and 80's.

Thanks, Bob's mom!

And not just Harlan's father, but his father's father, and his father's father's father's father.

"All right Stan, don't belabor the point"

[pbmax]

Might be one of the best stories about what it was like to play with Young Favre. easy to understand why coaches are control freaks.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/feature/25397980/the-chronicles-of-favre-ia

Brunell: My favorite Brett Favre story is a hunting story from when he was a kid. He and a buddy or a couple buddies who were out trespassing on some property somewhere and they had a .22 rifle. They were just messing around and they see a deer. You're trespassing, you shouldn't be there to begin with, and the last thing you should do is take your gun and shoot at a deer. So they do it, and I think they hit it a few times and knock it down. After a couple shots ring off, they realize somebody could discover them and find out they're trespassing. They're frantic, they don't know what to do, and they've got this deer and it's flopping all over the woods. So, they figured out the only way to kill this deer without shooting at it is to drown it. So they drag it over to a puddle, a stream, a small pond, I don't know what it was, but they basically held this deer underwater until the bubbles stopped coming out of its nose. Listen, I'll probably get in trouble for telling this story, but it's one of the funniest stories I've ever heard. And the way he told that story, we were crying laughing. It was gut-ache type laughing.

Detmer: Hygiene wasn't really his thing at the time either. I remember we played at the old Cleveland Stadium and the locker room was tiny. We were sharing lockers. He'd hang his underwear up on the hook and there's a big yellow stain in them. Guys were like, "What the heck?" He's just laughing, like, "What? What's the problem?" He really didn't care.

[woodbuck27]

favre finds lead pipe and cracks a-rod on the elbow before leaving the tunnel

a-rod last heard screaming "WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?"

favre runs down the tunnel yelling "not on my night bitch"

I got back fr. my Country Home in New Brunswick to Greenfield Park, Quebec { Home of the Greenfield Park Packers} just in time to enjoy Brett Favre's Number Retirement Game Ceremony I witness this event at Hooters Sports Bar. The Official Sports Bar for the Green Bay Packers in greater Montreal, Quebec. Nothing at Hooters could distract me from my focus on all things Favre that evening...LOL. I've never felt prouder as a Sports fan. He looked amazing...in awesome condition and well .... I never saw him look more fit. It was especially moving to witness the respect he showed for Bart Starr. The exuberance he demonstrated hugging his former teammates was notable.

As usual FAVRE gave the most credit for his success to his teammates and the Packer fans. As man that loved watching Brett Favre play the way only he could.... the good and the bad and the ugly. . . . hahahaa; I was so happy to witness this occasion on LIVE TV.


It was so sad for me to see the Packers stink up the joint on this Special night. Favre dominated the Chicago Bears during his career.

All the same with the good there is often the bad. I wanted to see a Packer win on that night and was disappointed in the way the team didn't perform. All that aside and commenting on this night and Brett Favre. I was busting with pride for this awesome Green Bay Packer. Soon he'll be in the NFL HOF as a first ballot candidate. I anticipate that with all patience.

[mraynrand]

BFFF!!!!

[Infamous]

I wonder if they will discuss and/or talk to Lord about his magical night in Oak after papi died...wasnt that last time we played at Oak?

[Fritz]

Imagine a tribute to Najeh Davenport...."I'll never forget that night he shit in a laundry basket! Good times, good times."

But I bet ol' Brent has a few stories like that...

[MadtownPacker]

Still calling #4 "Brent" is a pussy move. Don't forget his name is spelled right in Lambeau's ring.

[mraynrand]

I love Bert, but I love my T-shirt:



I might wear it to the HOF induction ceremony next year. Gotta have a sense of humor about this stuff, otherwise you are just a pathetic, obsequious jock sniffer. No false idols!

[Patler]

You guys really need to show more respect to old Mr. Pharve.

[Freak Out]

I plan on wearing my Favre Jet Jersey to the game....what color Crocs was he wearing?