Is Favre's Arm Fatigued?

[Deputy Nutz]

I just think it's an interesting dynamic. I wonder if those who say that the offseason work isn't important will make excuses for Favre if he doesn't do well in New Jersey.

Thats the bed he chose. He could have hired the personal trainer again, he could have decided he wanted to play football a little bit earlier than at the end of June. His problem, I will point to it as a reason and then damn him for it.

Didn't you just say it wasn't that hard and he's a 17 year vet so it should be a cake walk?

Reading a defense, absolutely. getting his body in football shape in less than a month, might cause problems, such as when you try and read peoples post and muck them all up.

[RashanGary]

I just think it's an interesting dynamic. I wonder if those who say that the offseason work isn't important will make excuses for Favre if he doesn't do well in New Jersey.

Thats the bed he chose. He could have hired the personal trainer again, he could have decided he wanted to play football a little bit earlier than at the end of June. His problem, I will point to it as a reason and then damn him for it.

Didn't you just say it wasn't that hard and he's a 17 year vet so it should be a cake walk?

Reading a defense, absolutely. getting his body in football shape in less than a month, might cause problems, such as when you try and read peoples post and muck them all up.

Oh, so now if he fails it's because he can't hack it physically. OK.

[Deputy Nutz]

I just think it's an interesting dynamic. I wonder if those who say that the offseason work isn't important will make excuses for Favre if he doesn't do well in New Jersey.

Thats the bed he chose. He could have hired the personal trainer again, he could have decided he wanted to play football a little bit earlier than at the end of June. His problem, I will point to it as a reason and then damn him for it.

Didn't you just say it wasn't that hard and he's a 17 year vet so it should be a cake walk?

Reading a defense, absolutely. getting his body in football shape in less than a month, might cause problems, such as when you try and read peoples post and muck them all up.

Oh, so now if he fails it's because he can't hack it physically. OK.

You keep twisting the rest of the night.
Unfortunately I can't stop from fighting stupid, but please go back and read my posts, digest them, and hopefully you actually learn something. Then I am willing to actually discuss what I posted with you.

[Merlin]

If I remember correctly, Favre said that this off season he had thrown more then he usually does. Favre will continue to be in the news until one of two things happen:

1) He gets injured.
2) The Packers look legitimate without him.

If you don't want to read about Favre then don't. Some of us would appreciate it if you take your hater ass somewhere else, preferably over to your rump ranger buddy Ted Thompson's house.

[cpk1994]

If I remember correctly, Favre said that this off season he had thrown more then he usually does. Favre will continue to be in the news until one of two things happen:

1) He gets injured.
2) The Packers look legitimate without him.

If you don't want to read about Favre then don't. Some of us would appreciate it if you take your hater ass somewhere else, preferably over to your rump ranger buddy Ted Thompson's house.

And some of us would appreciate it if you'd slurp favre's salami somewhere else, preferably at your boy toy's Favre's house.

[Bretsky]

If I remember correctly, Favre said that this off season he had thrown more then he usually does. Favre will continue to be in the news until one of two things happen:

1) He gets injured.
2) The Packers look legitimate without him.

If you don't want to read about Favre then don't. Some of us would appreciate it if you take your hater ass somewhere else, preferably over to your rump ranger buddy Ted Thompson's house.

Favre is in a tough spot

He's learning an offense that is foreign to him. Terms the Packers use and he has used for the past 16 years mean different things in Jets lingo.

So they need him to practice as much as he can and along with that the arm gets worked much harder than it has in the past when MM has monitord the amount of throwing he does to keep the arm fresh.

It's all going to be a big challenge.

[mmmdk]

I hear it's easy to get Jets tickets...this board is consumed with BF. Asinine, to put in kindly.

[mraynrand]

I am fatigued by this thread (I know pat, I should grow up).

[Bossman641]

If I remember correctly, Favre said that this off season he had thrown more then he usually does. Favre will continue to be in the news until one of two things happen:

1) He gets injured.
2) The Packers look legitimate without him.

If you don't want to read about Favre then don't. Some of us would appreciate it if you take your hater ass somewhere else, preferably over to your rump ranger buddy Ted Thompson's house.

Favre is in a tough spot

He's learning an offense that is foreign to him. Terms the Packers use and he has used for the past 16 years mean different things in Jets lingo.

So they need him to practice as much as he can and along with that the arm gets worked much harder than it has in the past when MM has monitord the amount of throwing he does to keep the arm fresh.

It's all going to be a big challenge.

What do you mean? Offseason training doesn't mean anything, and he only has to learn 10 plays anyways.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If I remember correctly, Favre said that this off season he had thrown more then he usually does. Favre will continue to be in the news until one of two things happen:

1) He gets injured.
2) The Packers look legitimate without him.

If you don't want to read about Favre then don't. Some of us would appreciate it if you take your hater ass somewhere else, preferably over to your rump ranger buddy Ted Thompson's house.

Get Favre's cum stain off your blue dress yet monica?

[Partial]

There is no disagreeing here. Partial is wrong.

I guess Brett Favre is wrong then since I quoted him. Evidently you, who my guess has never played a snap of tackle football in your life judging from your lack of knowledge, know better than Brett Favre.

[Partial]

The language in even calling an NFL pass play is pretty complicated. Im trying to think of an example but that shit doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. I find it hard to believe you haven't heard it before though ... it's not exactly like I-Right, 24 Power Right kinda shit ...

Because you've been in an NFL huddle at the quarterback position to call these plays before? You sound as if you speak from experience.

[Partial]

From the horses mouth, you need to be able to do 10 plays well. You will of course game plan during the week as usual learning new plays, etc.

This isn't Madden. There are no money plays to master. Unless I'm mistaken, offenses rarely run the same passing play more than once or twice a game.

It's my understanding they run the same few plays over and over again if they work. Favre said "you need to know, what, 10 plays", so I guess I'll take the word of the 17 year vet, best quarterback ever.

Same plays over and over again? False

You think maybe he was understating that a little bit?

No I don't, why would he? Watch a Packer game and watch the same few run plays, and then a few different passes. It's not rocket science. There's only so much variation that you can have.

The run plays are similar, but the passing plays? No way

Agree to disagree

Do you disagree with Brett Favre, a 17 year NFL vet and first ballet hall of famer? How can you claim to have a more intimiate knowledge of play calling than he?

Yea, I do

There are certainly more than 10 plays a game. It's not even a question. Coaches script the first 15 plays alone. I highly doubt plays 11-15 read "Repeat play 3, repeat play 7, repeat play 4...." YOU ARE WRONG. Get over it.

Yea, once he has the terminology down it will not be as difficult, but he has to unlearn all the terminology he currently knows and learn a completely new system. He has quite a ways to go before it becomes second nature for him, much more than learning 10 plays.

Watch the Packers game on Saturday, you'll see 11 different plays in the first 2 drives alone.

Just because a formation is different, it doesn't mean that person isn't running the same route. Really, its not as complicated as you think. You can run a slant probably 100 different ways. It's still a slant. I still will know how to throw it all 100 ways simply by looking at where the guy is lined up.

I've seen the Packers run 3-4 plays multiple times in the first 15 plays, so yeah..

For a quarterback, think about it, its right guard, left guard, right tackle, left tackle, etc for running plays. Give me a break. It's not rocket science.

[Partial]

I just think it's an interesting dynamic. I wonder if those who say that the offseason work isn't important will make excuses for Favre if he doesn't do well in New Jersey.

I don't think his preparation will have much to do with it. He put up legendary numbers while taking it easy. He put up bad numbers while taking it seriously. He put up good numbers while taking it seriously. I think it is far more dependent on how the talent around him performs. The Jets are not very good. Do I expect Favre to put them in the super bowl? Of course not.

I think he'll take his team to like 8-8 and that is spectacular considering the poor talent level.

[mission]

There is no disagreeing here. Partial is wrong.

I guess Brett Favre is wrong then since I quoted him. Evidently you, who my guess has never played a snap of tackle football in your life judging from your lack of knowledge, know better than Brett Favre.

LOL!

I read your post and then looked up to see who you replying to and it was ME....

ME!?

Really?

I was actually 22 of 23 for 294 yards, 4 TDs and even had a pick on defense against DeForest in one of the toughest conferences in the state. First-team all-conference QB two years and hold 13 all-time school records at the biggest football powerhouse in Wisconsin state history (MONROE - 11 statechampionships... 63+ game winning streak) ... coached QBs for four years at Jeff Tricky Quarterback camps at UW-Whitewater and LaCrosse. I can send you a copy of the year's DVD highlight film if you'd like.

So sit the fuck down.

I own you.

Over and over and over again.

Don't even type in my direction. It makes you look stupid.

I'm serious. You aren't even close to being in my league (for anything).