Article - My Apologies Mr. Rodgers

[MadtownPacker]

For the record I dont think this is typical of ARod but it looks to me like the incredible pressure to succeed is bothering him. When he was talking to his family (looked like some uncles along with his parents) they appeared to be consoling him kinda. even Kampman stepped over for a second and spoke to ARod.

[MadtownPacker]

So he has to sign autographs EVERY time?

Because in the interactions I have had with AR, he has always been the last player at camp signing autographs, and chatting with kids.


I guess he has to do it after EVERY game and EVERY practice, so some people don't get their fucking panties up in a bunch.

I dont wear panties so watch your mouth.

The comment I bolded is what I have always heard about him also and why I was surprised by it. As mentioned, he didnt have to sign anything but a hello to the fans wasnt going to kill anyone.

[MadtownPacker]

"I could swear I saw him cringe"...maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe he cringed because he was trying ot spend a few moments with his family and some idiot is yelling his name.

You like facts, there you go. Called me an idiot well before RG jumped in. Did I attack you first?

[Zool]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Maybe you could just start letting it go and not giving ammo? They respond with 1 word jabs and you come back with 7 paragraphs. They arent less guilty of it than you, but change has to happen somewhere. This place is turning into the same 5-6 people taking potshots at each other in every fucking thread and I'm tired of it, Mad's tired of it, hell probably everyone but you 5-6 people are tired of having to sift through mountains of shit to get to interesting opinions. I dont mean to single you out so specifically Ty, but you tend to be in the middle of 90% of these things.

Its time for you guys to stop treating this forum like your personal verbal sparring ring. Its driving people away and making regular posters into casual readers. Time to start policing yourselves and realizing what you posters are doing to the entire place before the mods and Mad have to actually do something about it. We don't want to, but we don't want the forum to shrivel up and die.

[Chevelle2]

Or maybe he is really a jackass with very little character.. see I can speculate to..

Have you met him?

I have.

3 times.

And he has been very nice and cordial to me and everyone there at the time.

But I HAVE to trust the writing on the front page right? After all

MadTown was there and I doubt he'd write an article about the situation if it wasn't worth telling

So are you saying I am lying? Believe me I would have said what happened if he had 3 thrown 3TD and was doing cartwheels to the bus. Say Im an ass but dont call me a liar.

I don't think he is calling you a liar.

paco took your comments..and some of your speculation to basically call arod lacking character.

He is saying that in the times he met him...he was cordial. Paco is calling him a jackass based off your report...and chevelle is now saying that should he discount his first hand experiences because you had an experience?

The real point is this..paco and others are just going to take whatever they can and twist it to insult Arod. Arod has done nothing wrong. He is a member of the packers..and we should all be behind him. That doesn't mean he is above criticism..but, the personal attacks and speculation are getting a bit much.

Arod says something..he is throwing the team under the bus. Or, we could say he is taking a leadership stance. Either one could be true.

But, we have certain posters who are just going to always choose the negative perspective no matter what.

You got it, thanks for having my back TB

[MadtownPacker]

This is ludicrous. If you've watched the players a lot going to and from the stadium before and after the games, more than half don't even acknowledge the fans. It's silly to brand any label on them for that. They are getting ready for a game in their own way. This is pretty juvenile.

Is it really? I can understand before or during the game but after when you are just standing by the side of the bus?

New QB, telling the fans to jump on the bandwagon or shut up, and then when a bunch who are on the bandwagon chant your name 10 ft away from you and you cant even nod your head at them? Maybe you think it is juvenile but I think it was wrong.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

"I could swear I saw him cringe"...maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe he cringed because he was trying ot spend a few moments with his family and some idiot is yelling his name.

You like facts, there you go. Called me an idiot well before RG jumped in. Did I attack you first?

Mad,

You are personalizing that. I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was talking about in general, i'm sure you weren't the only one there calling out his name.

I was just giving examples of how two people can see the same thing and have two different speculations/interpretations of what happened.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Maybe you could just start letting it go and not giving ammo? They respond with 1 word jabs and you come back with 7 paragraphs. They arent less guilty of it than you, but change has to happen somewhere. This place is turning into the same 5-6 people taking potshots at each other in every fucking thread and I'm tired of it, Mad's tired of it, hell probably everyone but you 5-6 people are tired of having to sift through mountains of shit to get to interesting opinions. I dont mean to single you out so specifically Ty, but you tend to be in the middle of 90% of these things.

Its time for you guys to stop treating this forum like your personal verbal sparring ring. Its driving people away and making regular posters into casual readers. Time to start policing yourselves and realizing what you posters are doing to the entire place before the mods and Mad have to actually do something about it. We don't want to, but we don't want the forum to shrivel up and die.

1. I responded to a pot shot..with a jab.
2. I hear your point about excessive response.
3. I rarely take pot shots at the person...you are much more guilty of taking potshots at me than i am of you. I rarely, if ever, just take a jab outta nowhere on someone.
4. If i counter, it is with logic and reason.
5. If you are sick of it...think about what has caused it. I have stayed out till very recently about the Favre stuff. That is what has caused quite a bit. Check my posts..i wasn't commenting much on favre pre trade..it was ridiculous and tiresome. I, like others, am tired of reading that shit..and now you are seeing me on it.

I pointed out to Paco that he was bringing this crap into the brewers forum. Ok, i'm responding..so that perpetuates it..but, like football...the instant replay clearly shows who is iniating this shit.

6. Police ourselves....ok, perhaps you could mention that to those that take potshots at me. Yourself, Retail (who openly said that it is ok for him to do so..because that is what we do..which, i said was fine..cause i'm a big boy..but, i never take potshots at him), Roark, Partial, etc. By potshot, i mean a post that insults the person without addressing that persons post.

You might consider leading by example.

I have yet to see you or anybody come down on Nutz or Skin..i cant' remember which..who was coming down hard on Gex or Paco..again can't remember which.

[retailguy]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Trashing you? Please. Zool nailed the whole thing. If he keeps it up, I might even withdraw my whole characterization of being sarcastic, which was meant in jest of course.

Ty, my biggest problem with you is that you HAVE TO have the last word. HAVE TO. There is a 14 page thread in the garbage can about cellular telephones that proves that you and Partial are both incapable of not having the last word.

I wasn't trying to attack you, nor was I trying to start something. I was just illustrating (or trying to) how stupid your argument with Pacopete was...


MTP - I really did enjoy your article and I appreciate the insight. Apologies that I contributed to "trashing" your thread.

[Zool]

1. I responded to a pot shot..with a jab.
2. I hear your point about excessive response.
3. I rarely take pot shots at the person...you are much more guilty of taking potshots at me than i am of you. I rarely, if ever, just take a jab outta nowhere on someone.
4. If i counter, it is with logic and reason.
5. If you are sick of it...think about what has caused it. I have stayed out till very recently about the Favre stuff. That is what has caused quite a bit. Check my posts..i wasn't commenting much on favre pre trade..it was ridiculous and tiresome. I, like others, am tired of reading that shit..and now you are seeing me on it.

I pointed out to Paco that he was bringing this crap into the brewers forum. Ok, i'm responding..so that perpetuates it..but, like football...the instant replay clearly shows who is iniating this shit.

6. Police ourselves....ok, perhaps you could mention that to those that take potshots at me. Yourself, Retail (who openly said that it is ok for him to do so..because that is what we do..which, i said was fine..cause i'm a big boy..but, i never take potshots at him), Roark, Partial, etc. By potshot, i mean a post that insults the person without addressing that persons post.

You might consider leading by example.

I have yet to see you or anybody come down on Nutz or Skin..i cant' remember which..who was coming down hard on Gex or Paco..again can't remember which.

Self fulfilling prophesy with the short story I guess. The first paragraph was aimed at you because you are in the middle of these squabbles a large portion of the time. Your iPhone thread with Partial is ridiculous. I very much have come down on Partial, RG, Skin and Nutz in the past. The second paragraph was more of a broad stroke.

I take jabs at the people who specifically are trying to stir up trouble. You either didnt realize, or just didnt pay attention. There's a couple people who only come here to post shit. I have zero respect for pot stirrers. They get what they get. Its exactly what they are looking for, I know this, but its fun for me.

What I dont do is get into 6, 7, 15 page threads arguing minutia and spend my time here correcting everyone about shades of grey. I probably could have eliminated the first paragraph in my initial post but you have got to calm down with this internet persona of yours. Its turning people away and its my job to attempt to make that stop.

You do add good content to many threads, but you've brought on all of these jabs yourself by having your specific style. Its not like you got here and people started including you as someone who annoys them.

Paco is the same way. He starts good threads, then completely useless ones for reaction, so you're in a pot-kettle situation there calling him out specifically. "But Timmy did it too" doesnt fly in the adult world. If I took shots at you, they were in jest and you know that. We've never had anything bad between us that I recall.

Again I'll have to apologize for singling you out, but it holds true. This place is starting to slide downhill in a hurry and there's a small portion of the populace thats doing it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Trashing you? Please. Zool nailed the whole thing. If he keeps it up, I might even withdraw my whole characterization of being sarcastic, which was meant in jest of course.

Ty, my biggest problem with you is that you HAVE TO have the last word. HAVE TO. There is a 14 page thread in the garbage can about cellular telephones that proves that you and Partial are both incapable of not having the last word.

I wasn't trying to attack you, nor was I trying to start something. I was just illustrating (or trying to) how stupid your argument with Pacopete was...


MTP - I really did enjoy your article and I appreciate the insight. Apologies that I contributed to "trashing" your thread.

You have taken shots...to deny that is foolish.

Last word: Pot meet kettle. For that matter, we could put numerous posters.

Phone: It is a discussion. But, if you actually looked at it..i rarely, if ever start the discussion again. Usually it goes a while with nothing posted..and then partial puts something up. I then respond to it. There is something up right now..again, but i'm not responding. So, you are wrong on that.

It is just a goof for me. The difference is that i don't expect anything to change from it. And, i also know that partial is baiting..and sometimes it is just fun to take the bait.

But, you of course, like many other times, get the facts wrong. I didn't start in that thread till after you. It was long started before i even made a comment..and after i did, plenty of others were commenting. Don't let the facts get in the way.

Paco: Sorry, but i disagree. You and others may think the forum is being ruined by the argument, but i and others think it is being ruined by the constant Favre whining, arod bashing, tt bashing, etc.

Every thread is being infested with it..and, if i can just ignore it...then you can do the same with my posts. You can't have it both ways.

I'm not the first to state this..and to go off on someone. Funny, i don't you commenting on them though.

[Pacopete4]

1. I responded to a pot shot..with a jab.
2. I hear your point about excessive response.
3. I rarely take pot shots at the person...you are much more guilty of taking potshots at me than i am of you. I rarely, if ever, just take a jab outta nowhere on someone.
4. If i counter, it is with logic and reason.
5. If you are sick of it...think about what has caused it. I have stayed out till very recently about the Favre stuff. That is what has caused quite a bit. Check my posts..i wasn't commenting much on favre pre trade..it was ridiculous and tiresome. I, like others, am tired of reading that shit..and now you are seeing me on it.

I pointed out to Paco that he was bringing this crap into the brewers forum. Ok, i'm responding..so that perpetuates it..but, like football...the instant replay clearly shows who is iniating this shit.

6. Police ourselves....ok, perhaps you could mention that to those that take potshots at me. Yourself, Retail (who openly said that it is ok for him to do so..because that is what we do..which, i said was fine..cause i'm a big boy..but, i never take potshots at him), Roark, Partial, etc. By potshot, i mean a post that insults the person without addressing that persons post.

You might consider leading by example.

I have yet to see you or anybody come down on Nutz or Skin..i cant' remember which..who was coming down hard on Gex or Paco..again can't remember which.

Self fulfilling prophesy with the short story I guess. The first paragraph was aimed at you because you are in the middle of these squabbles a large portion of the time. Your iPhone thread with Partial is ridiculous. I very much have come down on Partial, RG, Skin and Nutz in the past. The second paragraph was more of a broad stroke.

I take jabs at the people who specifically are trying to stir up trouble. You either didnt realize, or just didnt pay attention. There's a couple people who only come here to post shit. I have zero respect for pot stirrers. They get what they get. Its exactly what they are looking for, I know this, but its fun for me.

What I dont do is get into 6, 7, 15 page threads arguing minutia and spend my time here correcting everyone about shades of grey. I probably could have eliminated the first paragraph in my initial post but you have got to calm down with this internet persona of yours. Its turning people away and its my job to attempt to make that stop.

You do add good content to many threads, but you've brought on all of these jabs yourself by having your specific style. Its not like you got here and people started including you as someone who annoys them.

Paco is the same way. He starts good threads, then completely useless ones for reaction, so you're in a pot-kettle situation there calling him out specifically. "But Timmy did it too" doesnt fly in the adult world. If I took shots at you, they were in jest and you know that. We've never had anything bad between us that I recall.

Again I'll have to apologize for singling you out, but it holds true. This place is starting to slide downhill in a hurry and there's a small portion of the populace thats doing it.

I'm doing my best to clean that up Zool but I really just cant stand Ty and his know it all attitude...

[Zool]

I've actually noticed this Paco and believe me its much appreciated, but this cant turn into a place where you have a specific vendetta against one poster and reply to all of his posts with vitriol. If you have a problem with a poster, just ignore them.

[Pacopete4]

will do

[Zool]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.