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    GREEN’S GROIN GETTING HIM CUT?
    Posted by Mike Florio on August 18, 2008, 12:54 p.m.
    On the same day that the Texans reportedly will be parting ways with offensive lineman Fred Weary, there’s talk that one of the guys for whom he was blocking could be getting the heave-ho.

    Per the Houston Chronicle, via our friends at Rotoworld.com, who exclusively power our must-see Fantasy Mill, Ahman Green’s current groin injury could result in a decision to release the veteran tailback.

    The key piece of proof could be the decision of the Texans to sign Marcel Shipp, who was booted by the Cardinals recently. Shipp’s arrival could be a sign that either Green or newcomer Chris Brown will be gone.

    And don’t be surprised if the winner in all of this is Steve Slaton, whose own chronic injury problems (coupled with an apparent fear of suffering a big one on the cusp of his NFL payday) caused his draft stock to slide to round three in April.

    On Sunday, coach Gary Kubiak gushed about Slaton’s preseason performance against the Saints.

    “He played pretty darn well,” Kubiak said. “He’s a player that’s getting continuously better every time we go out. He’s a much better player this week than he was last week. He was better in protections. There are still some mistakes that concern you the closer you get to the season, but it’s obviously he can be a big help to us offensively.”

    Slaton has been regarded as at best a third-down back, due to his size. But why does it have to be that way? If he can move the chains, hold the ball, and avoid the injury bug, he could be a force. He’s got a nose for the end zone and a burst of speed that (unlike Reggie Bush) apparently is translating well to the NFL.

    It’s still way too early to make comparisons. But wouldn’t it be the ultimate irony if it turns out that, two years after passing on Bush with the No. 1 overall pick, the Texans picked up in round three a guy who ends up being better than Bush?
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    Pretty sure Thompson was right for not matching the Texans bid for Green. I admit, at the time, I was kind of pissed off that we let Green go for a few million dollars difference, but I now recognize that I was wrong and Ted was right, at least on this issue.
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    • #3
      I know some may jump on me for this but... if he gets cut and we can get him league minimum to let him get that injury healed I think he'd be a serviceable back still

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Pretty sure Thompson was right for not matching the Texans bid for Green. I admit, at the time, I was kind of pissed off that we let Green go for a few million dollars difference, but I now recognize that I was wrong and Ted was right, at least on this issue.
        Yeah, me too (I was pissed). I never have looked at someone and said, "whew, glad we didn't sign them"... after the fact.

        There was no guarantee that had Ahman remained he'd have gotten hurt like he did in Houston.

        Even back with Joe Johnson... No guarantee he wouldn't have been hurt had he remained in NO. It's just the breaks.... It happens. Yeah, Johnson had an injury history, but so do others than change teams and nothing happens....

        I just can't look at information like this and then say things like "Ted made a good decision there", or "Ted made a bad decision there".

        I didn't like the Ahman deal then, and I don't like it now. I'm glad that Grant got a chance to play, and I hope it continues into this season. But, if the line we saw on Sat nite is the new line, we have bigger problems than who is running the ball.

        Ahman was a great Packer, and I miss that! I hate getting old, and watching these guys get old too....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          I know some may jump on me for this but... if he gets cut and we can get him league minimum to let him get that injury healed I think he'd be a serviceable back still

          I'm not jumping on you, but I think we've got enough backs. Ahman no longer belongs on this team.... It's too young for him, and his being around would take carries away from a developing player, and remove someone from special teams duty....

          But, nostalgically, I see where you're coming from...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by retailguy
            There was no guarantee that had Ahman remained he'd have gotten hurt like he did in Houston.
            Come on man. The guy started breaking down at the end of his career here, and he's been nothing but broken down there. Most people that were cool with Ahman leaving cited that as a reason not to resign him. Those people have been right. Give them their due.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              I know some may jump on me for this but... if he gets cut and we can get him league minimum to let him get that injury healed I think he'd be a serviceable back still

              I'm not jumping on you, but I think we've got enough backs. Ahman no longer belongs on this team.... It's too young for him, and his being around would take carries away from a developing player, and remove someone from special teams duty....

              But, nostalgically, I see where you're coming from...

              Now that you pointed it out, he obviously would come as a #3 back because Grant/Jackson seem to be our duo for the future and if he was a #3 back he'd have special teams duty for sure and that just wouldn't happen with that guy.. not a good fit

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by retailguy
                There was no guarantee that had Ahman remained he'd have gotten hurt like he did in Houston.
                Come on man. The guy started breaking down at the end of his career here, and he's been nothing but broken down there. Most people that were cool with Ahman leaving cited that as a reason not to resign him. Those people have been right. Give them their due.

                C'mon? Really. I meant what I said, and I thought I said it without "disrespecting" anyone's point of view.

                Ahman didn't get hurt badly enough not to play his last season here, did he? Yes, he got banged up, but not like he did in Houston.

                It could have happened here, but it could NOT have also. My point was that you don't base decisions on that, and you surely don't point to them after the fact and say "there, SEE"...

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                • #9
                  Plus he's on the wrong side of 30, and been injured a lot the last 3 years. I am a huge AG fan, but he's about at the end of the line.
                  Originally posted by 3irty1
                  This is museum quality stupidity.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4

                    Now that you pointed it out, he obviously would come as a #3 back because Grant/Jackson seem to be our duo for the future and if he was a #3 back he'd have special teams duty for sure and that just wouldn't happen with that guy.. not a good fit

                    It's kind of like the Henderson thing. Our fullbacks didn't play well most of last season (well not like Hendo in his prime....) but you can't bring the guy back because he's washed up, or damn close, and we've got to develop somebody... even if he can play as well as they played last season.

                    But, then, you hate to see 'em leave too.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Originally posted by retailguy
                      There was no guarantee that had Ahman remained he'd have gotten hurt like he did in Houston.
                      Come on man. The guy started breaking down at the end of his career here, and he's been nothing but broken down there. Most people that were cool with Ahman leaving cited that as a reason not to resign him. Those people have been right. Give them their due.
                      QFT

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                        • #13
                          I think it's baloney, they're not going to cut him because of a pulled groin. Teams are cautious this time of year, look how many Packers are sitting out from minor injuries. I bet Ahman has a hell of a year this year, he can still play.
                          Thanks Ted!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            I know some may jump on me for this but... if he gets cut and we can get him league minimum to let him get that injury healed I think he'd be a serviceable back still
                            I won't jump you. I kind of like the idea, if there's roster space. Ahman dug it up here, and was one of the few guys who lived in GB year-round. He's always been a team guy, encouraging the other backs when he couldn't go. He'd be a good senior leader of the team, sort of like Davis before he went management.

                            But it'd come down to numbers, and more roster space than cap space, of which we still have plenty.

                            Mostly, I'd like him back so that they'd quit lettin' no-bodies wear his number 30. I'm not saying to retire it, but damn, can't they let the number cool off before they let a guy like Kuhn wear it? I'll feel the same way about number 80.

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                            • #15
                              I'd be in favor or picking up Ahman if he got cut. Unless Lumpkins is getting kept any of the others (Morency, Wynn) can go.

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