Packers exploring trade for DT

[Gunakor]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

Grant was not in our TC last season. He played last preseason for the Giants, rushing for 90 yards and a TD on 18 carries (5 ypc. avg.). TT traded for Grant just before week 1 because Morency was injured.

[Sparkey]

Anyone have an idea about who might be available, or which teams have surplus of DT's? I can't imagine anyone that good being available, given how the Packers kept extra last year. I suppose if the draft pick were high enough, but TT is unlikely to pay much.

• 94 Bannan, Justin DT ACT 6'3" 310 4/18/1979 7 Colorado
  96 Campbell, Darrell DT ACT 6'4" 295 7/6/1981 2 Notre Dame
  93 Edwards, Dwan DT ACT 6'3" 295 5/16/1981 5 Oregon State
  63 Gordon, Amon DT ACT 6'2" 305 10/13/1981 3 Stanford
  92 Ngata, Haloti DT ACT 6'4" 345 1/21/1984 3 Oregon
  69 Parker, J'Vonne DT ACT 6'4" 325 6/7/1982 2 Rutgers
  62 Solano, Salomon DT ACT 6'3" 321 9/19/1985 1 No College
  72 Williams, Lorenzo DT ACT 6'0" 310 10/23/1984 0 Missouri

The Ravens have a whole slew of DT's on their roster and only one DE, an area we have extra. If they can agree on value, seems like the potential for a player/player swap is there.

[mraynrand]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move. If he doesn't trade for a DT, I'll be much more likely to believe that he didn't find anyone worth trading for.

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

You'll notice I didn't say genius. I said Shrewd move, meaning they liked him - enough to trade a draft pick for him; may not have thought he'd be dominant. Thompson has actually been pretty successful with late camp, cut down pickups, and picking up a guy they need from a loaded roster is a similar way that might help them with DT, and who knows - they might have a guy in mind like grant, who would fit their system.

[The Leaper]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move.

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

Come on now. Regardless of how it went down, it was a shrewd move. Other teams had worse RBs than Derrick Ward and Ryan Grant--yet Thompson got one of those guys for a late pick. They both look mint. The story I've heard (I believe it was on JSO) is that the Giants offered Ward or Grant, and the Packers actually liked Grant more. Now, I don't know if that was a great move or not--because Ward looks like another Brian Westbrook to me. However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

[Scott Campbell]

Maybe the Grant trade wasn't a miracle - Thomson obviously doesn't like to part with picks, so perhaps he just saw something others missed in Grant, and simply made a shrewd move.

I don't think there was anything shrewd. The Giants had too many good RBs. Thompson knew it...and asked them which one they would part with for a late round pick because we needed one. That choice was made by the Giants...not Thompson.

Getting Grant was brilliant. But the Grant move offsets the Harrell pick - for the time being anyway.

[The Leaper]

However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

Nothing shrewd about it. The move was talked about in the press days before it actually happened. It was LOGICAL, not shrewd. It was a move that nearly all of the other GMs in the league would've made if they were in the same position as Thompson.

The point was that few teams were in the same position. RBs are a dime a dozen...to not have ANY on your roster worth a damn as a starter for the upcoming season is tough to do. However, that is precisely where Thompson had us.

He did his job and made a good move, but let's not make this into more than it is.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Grant is a small fraction below Adrian Peterson--which is how I see him, and Ward is a small fraction below Westbrook--as somebody speculated, I'll STILL take Grant over Ward every time--just as I would take Peterson over Westbrook--absolutely positively.

I didn't mean to imply that it was a "miracle" in the luck sense the way Grant turned out, but rather, that Thompson was lucky to find that kind of prospect available. He MADE the "miracle" by taking it from there and getting Grant--not only getting him, but getting him cheap.

[mraynrand]

However, it was a shrewd move to know which team you could shore up your RB spot with, and to pull the trigger on the trade.

Nothing shrewd about it. The move was talked about in the press days before it actually happened. It was LOGICAL, not shrewd. It was a move that nearly all of the other GMs in the league would've made if they were in the same position as Thompson.

The point was that few teams were in the same position. RBs are a dime a dozen...to not have ANY on your roster worth a damn as a starter for the upcoming season is tough to do. However, that is precisely where Thompson had us.

He did his job and made a good move, but let's not make this into more than it is.

Shrewd move, good move, tomato, tomato, whatever. I'll accept it was a good move and Thompson could very well make another good move if a DT is available. Let's not make this into more than it is.

[retailguy]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

[sheepshead]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

QFT--TT has admitted as much.

[mraynrand]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

I have to disagree somewhat. It seems unlikely that a guy who protects his draft picks like TT, would blow one on a guy he expected to remain third string. Given when he was brought in - after the preseason - he wasn't going to get much time until he learned something. Still, he played right away, and showed some flashes v. the NYG before fumbling. I think Ted's evaluation was somewhere in the middle of your last two extremes. But let's not make too much of this.

[Packerarcher]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

[Zool]

Even if there was a steal of a DT available TT would not do it. It is not the TT way to do thins that make sense and promote winning.

Really? You're going to keep going with this? Isnt there a knot hole in a fence somewhere calling your name?

[MadScientist]

I've heard that said a bunch of times, that TT is a genius because of the Grant trade. The truth is, he and MM didn't know what they had even after they got it. He was in TC, so why didn't he start week 1? Or even week 2 if he needed to get to know the O better.

Truth is, they liked him, and thought he could share some of the load, but thought he was 'just a guy' and were as surprised as anyone else by what he did the 2nd half. To think they knew he was going to be the feature back before the end of the year, and were just 'biding their time' before starting him is just pure kool-aid.

QFT - There is a reason Grant didn't start until everyone else had failed. There was nothing to suggest that he'd be successful and they figured they would give it a try because nothing else worked.

Did Ted see talent and work ethic? I hope so. Did he forsee 1,000 yard in the last part of the season? NO. Not even with help from the physcic hotline.

QFT--TT has admitted as much.

The fact that Grant was nursing a hamstring injury when they got him slowed his progress down. Also that fumble in Minn that almost cost them the game put him back at the end of the line as far as getting a chance.