Did Harrell have his surgery yet?

[RashanGary]

The browns run a 3/4 so you can't compare the two. I thought harrell would be a bust once it was printed that he couldn't hardly complete the Dline drills as a rookie.

WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[b bulldog]

Going through a divorce!, going after someone for contractor fraud, selling 2 homes, going to my good friends funeral today. It has been a shitty summer to put it lightly.

[Fritz]

Sucks, B Bull. Sorry to hear about it all.

I went through a divorce this year, too, but mine is over now - I've been on my own for ten months now.

Just look one hour at a time. Just get through it, lean on family and friends.

One year ago ago, I was sick with grief. All I could think about was my wife and why she wanted a divorce.

How things have changed in a year. Don't even try to look ahead, B Bull - you'll never be able to guess where you'll be. And it might be someplace really, really good.

It is for me, now. Hope it will be for you.

[Fred's Slacks]

Re: Did Harrell have his surgery yet?

This was the guy TT had to have instead of getting Cleveland's first round pick this year so they could take Brady Quinn.

TT could have gotten Reggie Nelson with the 16th pick in 2007. Nah, we don't need Reggie Nelson, we have Nick Collins.

Another great pick by TT. Right up there with a QB who is more fragile than Rex Grossman and a WR on a team that was supposedly loaded at WR.

I guess the Packers don't need a passing rushing DE or any offensive lineman. TT does great picking O lineman. Colledge, Spitz, Moll, Coston, and Barbre are all going to the Pro Bowl.

Yes sir, that TT sure knows how to pick em.

Yeah, TT has been far from perfect. But you can point to bad moves for every GM in the league. You have to judge a GM by their total body of work. It's not about being perfect, it about adding talent to the roster every year. TT has a plan for doing that and he sticks to it.

The reason for all the things you point to above is because he picks the best player available, not for need. I'd much rather add a good player at a position of strength then a mediocre player at a position of need. If you're already mediocre at a position, how does it help to add more mediocre players? So we have to put up with taking a Harrell when we could have used Nelson. I'll take that if it gives us Aaron Rodgers, James Jones, Desmond Bishop, Mason Crosby, Josh Sitton, Johnny Jolly, Matt Flynn, Jordy Nelson or other players we didn't "need" at the time but were the best available. It's the reason we can go 13-3 with the youngest team in the league. It's also the reason we can lose a hall of fame quarterback and still be many's favorite to win the division.

[esoxx]

Bust.

[RashanGary]

Going through a divorce!, going after someone for contractor fraud, selling 2 homes, going to my good friends funeral today. It has been a shitty summer to put it lightly.

Knowing you the little I do, I think you'll handle it well, one challenge at a time and come out the other end in a good place.

[pbmax]

Well looking at Brady Quinn's performance so far as a starter I can see why people love him.

[bobblehead]

how can you have back surgery and return to play DT in two months?

I know pro athletes bodies are well conditioned, and I believe TT said JH is in good shape despite the back problem. I'm skeptical.

8 IU a day of HgH will do wonders for the healing process. WWE wrestlers come back from horrific injuries in months.....yet the FDA is doing its best to make sure you and I don't get to use it.

And no, HgH isn't causing wrestlers to kill their families, other drugs do that.

[bobblehead]

What career?...

The one that's paid him more than you'll make in your lifetime.

Being 'Ok' in college does not give him a careen IMO

Go stand next to harrell, then stand next to anyone else. When you do that you will understand why they are still high on the guy. When you lose the hatred for TT you will stop wanting to drop all his picks because a bit of adversity hits. When favre was leading a second sherman's march through georgia's club scene and succumbing to vicodin were you ready to cut him lose too? I believe that is similar to the stage harrells career is at right now.

PS...we should have cut Jenkins after he did nothing his first two years...and kampman too, and KGB, and.....well you get the idea...oh yea, al harris was on the practice squad...what a bust.

[bobblehead]

What career?...

DTs (even first round DTs) not doing anything to speak of in their first two seasons in the NFL is actually a fairly common position. It's the second most important position on the field and one of the hardest to draft. Harrell has enough potential (a dirty word, I know) that they're not going to cut him until they're absolutely sure he won't turn it around and make a career out of it.

You have to admit, if you watched line play in the late season, he definitely flashed a little potential in holding the point.

He adores Brett. He hates Ted. Ted drafted JH. So he hates JH too. There's no talking point using logic with these sheep.

Can you please not make everything about Brett?


I just hate a fat, lazy, injured guy collecting millions of dollars from us, doing jackshit... its sickening

Then why did you want the 38 year old who neglected offseason workouts back so bad??

[cpk1994]

What career?...

DTs (even first round DTs) not doing anything to speak of in their first two seasons in the NFL is actually a fairly common position. It's the second most important position on the field and one of the hardest to draft. Harrell has enough potential (a dirty word, I know) that they're not going to cut him until they're absolutely sure he won't turn it around and make a career out of it.

You have to admit, if you watched line play in the late season, he definitely flashed a little potential in holding the point.

He adores Brett. He hates Ted. Ted drafted JH. So he hates JH too. There's no talking point using logic with these sheep.

Can you please not make everything about Brett?


I just hate a fat, lazy, injured guy collecting millions of dollars from us, doing jackshit... its sickening

Then why did you want the 38 year old who neglected offseason workouts back so bad??

Nice.

EDIT: That said, take the high road.

[b bulldog]

Fritz and Nick, thanks for the positive words. As anyone knows who has gone through this, this is really, really a diffiult time. For those of you who are happily married, cherish your spouse because divorce rips you apart and takes the life out of you.

[Rastak]

Fritz and Nick, thanks for the positive words. As anyone knows who has gone through this, this is really, really a diffiult time. For those of you who are happily married, cherish your spouse because divorce rips you apart and takes the life out of you.

Best of luck Bulldog. I know my uncle dropped about 30 pounds he couldn't afford to lose when his loser wife ( I ain't kidding) dumped him. He was in shock.

He is remarried and the happiest he has been in his life now....but man was he a miserable son of a bitch back then. Funny how things can change after the storm.