Al Harris might hold out training camp.

[Pack0514]

Although kinda shitty to say, I wouldnt give him any more money into the future past next season. If we can do something for him this year and next, I say go ahead and do something. He is getting up there in age and I think Carroll may take his or Woodson spot in a year or two. If Carroll develops, we will need money to resign him.

[packerpete]

Look people, the Green Bay Packer franchise is going to be around a lot longer than Al "Douchebag" Harris.

Keep the whiner with no contract compromises.

Bench the MF.

Play Carroll and Woodchuck and Blackmon and Hawkins and Horton and Fontenot.

Let this ungrateful bastard see how much fun it is with money when all you do is carry equipment to the field. maybe he can learn to appreciate that 3 million per year isnt all that bad. I hope his fuckin family chokes on that much food.

This team is not going to win this seaason anyway.

Trade this piece of shit before the draft next season after making him sit on his dumb ass all season long. Punish him, then discard him like a used colostomy bag.

The CB position will not be manned by Al "Douchebag" Harris when this team does win. Lets not forget, Favre is playing one, maybe two more seasons, then we have absolutely ZERO at the position for the foreseeable future, and our RB situation is completely unsettled also. Its gonna take some time to rebuild the offense, and sadly, Rodgers isnt the answer.

Make an example of this asshole now for all to see, the previous examples (MM, JW) have jeopardized the stability of this team and its ability to compete.

Other players who dont like his treatment can be noted and lost along the way. There are plenty of NFL players who play hard for thier current contracts and negotiate when thier current contract ends. We need to make certain that a similar policy is held on to in GB.

The Packers are far from a "Plantation" run team. Players that leave ultimately say that they didnt know how good they had it with the teams attitude towards players. We do not need to compromise any more, we need to hold the line and move on without malcontents and just continue to search for the right type of human beings to be good employees who deliver performance for fair pay without resorting to extortion tactics.

Other than that I really dont care....

[Partial]

I am not too worried though. Odds are he'll pull a Walker and play this season. After that, let him walk and find a trade if he wants. I have a hunch this will be his last productive year.

[Partial]

Does anyone know how much of a bonus he has left? We have his services cheap this year, and they continually increase until the end of the contract from here on out. I'd have no problems with cutting him after this season if his bonus is low enough. Chuck and Harris are temporary until Carroll, Hawkins, or Blackmon can step up, and I am confident one of those three will.

I don't think I'm being overzealous when I say we have a lot to look forward to at that position in the future. Blackmon, Hawkins, Horton and Carroll are all young and have shown flashes. Lets hope two of 'em can put it all together!!

[KYPack]

I definitely think there is another factor goin' on here.

I read another article on JSO before I read about Harris's whiney threat & noticed this quote:

"Barring an unexpected turn of events today, Harris and Woodson will be the only two healthy players to have not taken part in any of the 14 voluntary workouts."

I think this is a huge part of the beef. Harris plays the same position as Woodson & Woodson got the monster contract. Then Woodson doesn't show up at OTA. So Harris goes, "he ain't workin', I ain't workin".

I think Harris mentioned Kamp's deal because he didn't want to be obvious and mention Woodson's deal.

It's 50-50 whether Harris shows in camp. The other guys that held out got paid, but not as much as they wanted. If Harris has a smart agent, he'll show. The guy has very little leverage.

I hope Blackmon is a fast healer!

[Partial]

Look people, the Green Bay Packer franchise is going to be around a lot longer than Al "Douchebag" Harris.

Keep the whiner with no contract compromises.

Bench the MF.

Play Carroll and Woodchuck and Blackmon and Hawkins and Horton and Fontenot.

Let this ungrateful bastard see how much fun it is with money when all you do is carry equipment to the field. maybe he can learn to appreciate that 3 million per year isnt all that bad. I hope his fuckin family chokes on that much food.

This team is not going to win this seaason anyway.

Trade this piece of shit before the draft next season after making him sit on his dumb ass all season long. Punish him, then discard him like a used colostomy bag.

The CB position will not be manned by Al "Douchebag" Harris when this team does win. Lets not forget, Favre is playing one, maybe two more seasons, then we have absolutely ZERO at the position for the foreseeable future, and our RB situation is completely unsettled also. Its gonna take some time to rebuild the offense, and sadly, Rodgers isnt the answer.

Make an example of this asshole now for all to see, the previous examples (MM, JW) have jeopardized the stability of this team and its ability to compete.

Other players who dont like his treatment can be noted and lost along the way. There are plenty of NFL players who play hard for thier current contracts and negotiate when thier current contract ends. We need to make certain that a similar policy is held on to in GB.

The Packers are far from a "Plantation" run team. Players that leave ultimately say that they didnt know how good they had it with the teams attitude towards players. We do not need to compromise any more, we need to hold the line and move on without malcontents and just continue to search for the right type of human beings to be good employees who deliver performance for fair pay without resorting to extortion tactics.

Other than that I really dont care....

Judging from TT's drafts I would say they're building the trenches and are planning on being able to win without a gunslinging, premier quarterback. It's not unrealistic to think in a few years we'll be a very good defensive team because we're very young at every position other than corner, where we have a lot of young guys who are phenominal prospects who have two of the better guys to learn from in front of them.

As for the offensive trenches, Clifton, Klemm and Tauscher are the oldest going into their 7th seasons. The next oldest guy that will make the roster is entering his 3rd year.

[KYPack]

Does anyone know how much of a bonus he has left? We have his services cheap this year, and they continually increase until the end of the contract from here on out. I'd have no problems with cutting him after this season if his bonus is low enough. Chuck and Harris are temporary until Carroll, Hawkins, or Blackmon can step up, and I am confident one of those three will.

I don't think I'm being overzealous when I say we have a lot to look forward to at that position in the future. Blackmon, Hawkins, Horton and Carroll are all young and have shown flashes. Lets hope two of 'em can put it all together!!

Harris is signed thru 2009.

His cap hit (remaining pro-rated signing bonus) is 2,625,000. He is due a LBTE bonus of a million this year. The guy did sign a cheapie contract, based on the "NEW CBA era". It is a fair deal and he has very little leverage.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I am not too worried though. Odds are he'll pull a Walker and play this season. After that, let him walk and find a trade if he wants. I have a hunch this will be his last productive year.

i agree, he is not going to be good for much longer. and if he's as under payed as he says he is then he will report to camp not to miss out on any money, thats why i suggested in the other post to just give him a rise for this season. Then next year tarde him for a 3rd rounder. Plus you can't just let positions age, or your get a team like the titans when they had to release all their old players in the same year. heres hopeing corrol is good....

[Green Bud Packer]

harris is another in a long line of bad deals made by sherm the worm. let the punk sit.

[Partial]

Its not a bad deal. The cap went up more than 10%. Players that signed contracts that feel they have outperformed them want to get a piece of that pie. This has very little to do with Sherman.

[Green Bud Packer]

sorry i didn't mean harris' deal was bad i meant the deal for harris has gone bad. a testament to the type of player fatso brought to the pack.

[Partial]

Harris has shown nothing but class up until this point. He has always been a team leader as far as I know. He's getting older and he wasn't a high draft pick so he is trying to get some more money out of his stay in the league.

It is what it is. My guess is he'll be in camp and our starting corner week one.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harris has shown nothing but class up until this point.

BTW, McKenzie and Walker were both hard-working, model players up until the point they became bad guys.

[Harlan Huckleby]

a testament to the type of player fatso brought to the pack.

Hey ! Sherman was not fat. He had a comfortable, Wisconsin male physique.

[beakerman]

Harris must of spent most of his money to hush up the stripper last year....