Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
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The Al Harris situation is similar to Grady Jackson's situation last year- older guy, can still play, but might not have many years left. This isn't a young guy that has a lot of potential pro-bowl years left.
I think GB has WAY more bargaining power with Al Harris than they do with anyone else.
Shame on Al Harris. He got his sweet deal from Sherman because he was a company man and kept his mouth shut during the McKenzie situation. He was underpaid then and GB took care of him. I suspect they'd potentially have helped him out, but not now.
I'd tell him to take a long friggen walk off a short pier. We have three starting-caliber corners on this team, so if he wants to sit home, that's fine with us. We'll develop whoever is here.
I'm glad they got rid of Walker, but this annual "appease the maclcontent" revolving door is getting ridiculous.
Seems like every team has them though. The Bears have their problems, the Broncos are dealing with Lelie, even the Patriots have theirs. I think it just goes with the business- you can't make all 53 of your prima donna's happy.
Just once I'd love for one of these malcontents to be the one that crashes their motorcycle without a helmet on their noggin so then the team can just put them on a non-football injury list and not have to pay them anything.
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[quote="PaCkFan_n_MD"]If they could get a 3rd, they'd trade him NOW.Originally posted by PartialI(snip) Then next year trade him for a 3rd rounder. Plus you can't just let positions age, or your get a team like the titans when they had to release all their old players in the same year. heres hopeing corrol is good....
Aging vets with a beef have very little to no trade value.
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This is retarded. Al Harris was one of, if not the best, defensive player on our team last year, and everyone would admit...until all of a sudden he has a contract dispute.
All of a sudden now he's an aging, worthless, replaceable corner.
Anybody remember what happened when McKenzie bolted?Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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It's going to be that way until contracts run out. The cap went up 10% yet contracts stayed the same unless you just resigned. Most guys want an extra 10% now.Originally posted by Row 67The Al Harris situation is similar to Grady Jackson's situation last year- older guy, can still play, but might not have many years left. This isn't a young guy that has a lot of potential pro-bowl years left.
I think GB has WAY more bargaining power with Al Harris than they do with anyone else.
Shame on Al Harris. He got his sweet deal from Sherman because he was a company man and kept his mouth shut during the McKenzie situation. He was underpaid then and GB took care of him. I suspect they'd potentially have helped him out, but not now.
I'd tell him to take a long friggen walk off a short pier. We have three starting-caliber corners on this team, so if he wants to sit home, that's fine with us. We'll develop whoever is here.
I'm glad they got rid of Walker, but this annual "appease the maclcontent" revolving door is getting ridiculous.
Seems like every team has them though. The Bears have their problems, the Broncos are dealing with Lelie, even the Patriots have theirs. I think it just goes with the business- you can't make all 53 of your prima donna's happy.
Just once I'd love for one of these malcontents to be the one that crashes their motorcycle without a helmet on their noggin so then the team can just put them on a non-football injury list and not have to pay them anything.
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He was a great player, yes. No one is denying that. We want him here, but we understand that no player is above the team and if the trend continues of giving players what they want we'll be the siberia of the NFL again in no time.Originally posted by falcoThis is retarded. Al Harris was one of, if not the best, defensive player on our team last year, and everyone would admit...until all of a sudden he has a contract dispute.
All of a sudden now he's an aging, worthless, replaceable corner.
Anybody remember what happened when McKenzie bolted?
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Guarentee him some more of his contract and throw in int, tackle, prow bowl and Super Bowl incentives.
That means that he has goals so if he hits them more $$ and he is set with some $$ if he gets hurt.
Thats fair for a guy that has played lights out on our team and has been a team guy.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Alot of Packer fans was saying the same thing about Walker, and Mckinzie before him. The fact is if a player wants out or more money something is going to have to budge. GB has had issues over the past several years with players feeling underapreciated and it has to stop somewhere. Mckinzie is showed the door cuz he wanted more money and then give a less acomplisehed player (Harris) an extension. Walker was the teams only pro bowl WR but was shown the door while in the same breath the Packers give Driver an extension although he never put up Walkers numbers.Originally posted by pittstang5This is disturbing news. The drama never stops in GB. I swear I'm gonna turn into an Eagles fan one of these days (lol).
I'm going to hold Harris to his word...well his original word that he would report to TC....ON TIME. Even if he does hold out, I can't imagine he'll hold out the entire length of TC, it's just not Harris's style. He's not going anywhere and if he wants more money...well, he's gotta play.
Now Harris a player that benefited from the Mckinzie fray feels slighted (for good reason) cuz a player that has perforemed no where near his level the past 3 years gets brung in to play the side that covers the second best WR on every team and is paid grossly more than him. Funny how Karma works.
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I still don't think Walker had a whole lot of leverage. I think he left town because it benefited the Packers to get the pick and perform miracles with it. If he had decided to pull his crap after the draft, I think he'd have wound up with splinters in his behind."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Originally posted by PartialRas,
we all said the same thing about Walker, though.
He (Walker) HAD leverage. Last year of contract, GB was weak at receiever. By signing Woodson they could withstand Harris holding out. I think Harris has much less leverage for a number of reasons. Age, contract length, and GB's depth chart.
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GB's depth chart consist of Woodson who havent finised a season in at least 3 years and "let me grab you" Caroll who cant start on any NFL team. I think he has more leverage than fans may think. All this stuff you guys are saying was also said about McKinzie, and Walker. They both got what they wanted.Originally posted by RastakOriginally posted by PartialRas,
we all said the same thing about Walker, though.
He (Walker) HAD leverage. Last year of contract, GB was weak at receiever. By signing Woodson they could withstand Harris holding out. I think Harris has much less leverage for a number of reasons. Age, contract length, and GB's depth chart.
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