All Is Not Lost

[RashanGary]

The Cowboys have a better DL
The Cowboys have a better OL
The Cowboys are better

That's it.

[Partial]

I really don't think Dallas is as talented. Sure, they're better offensively but they can be exposed defensively. We didn't make it happen. Remember, we did start with a lead despite an early turnover. We should have led big but we can't close the deal.

[Bretsky]

I really don't think Dallas is as talented. Sure, they're better offensively but they can be exposed defensively. We didn't make it happen. Remember, we did start with a lead despite an early turnover. We should have led big but we can't close the deal.

I think if we'd go position to position Dallas is far more talented

The Eagles Offense looked much better against the Cowboys than ours did as well.

[pbmax]

We ran pretty well against that better D line, without nearly the fearsome running game the Cowboys have. Grant is not yet heathly and did anyone expect Jackson to look that good in the 2nd half? Was it a product of the Cowboys playing pass exclusively? Perhaps.

But the differences between our O Line and their D Line are not as bad as the highlight package will make it seem. We had opportunities.

Our D line versus their O line is a bigger gap. But even there, until the last long pass play for a TD, it was tight. They found a pass rush in the second half. But the young WR solved the Cowboys inability to get deep on us and closed the deal.

[BF4MVP]

Really, unless you expected to go 16-0 this year there's really no reason to get too worked up about this loss. Sure, losing sucks and I really wanted to beat the Cowboys and a I figured this was as good a shot as we've had in recent memory. But I did expect the Packers to lose some games this year, and if you look at our schedule Dallas is pretty much the best team we play all year (at least until the playoffs.) We didn't really look bad in doing it either. There are things we need to work on, and Dallas was clearly better than Green Bay in September, but it's a long season and things do change.

If we win this division, we get another crack at Dallas next year, if we don't see them in the playoffs. We're still on pace to win the division, and looking at our first four games? I think a lot of people (before the season started) would have been happy to finish September at 3-1. Really, if you keep up that pace you finish 12-4 and that will win most divisions in football. So let's beat the Bucs and not get too worked up about the Cowboys.

Great post

[Tarlam!]

Great post

Yeah, what he said. Both of them.

[Scott Campbell]

Our offense is more vanilla this year, and while our quarterbacks numbers are solid and reflect good decision making, we're not getting playmaker type play from their.

As opposed to the great play we got from last years' starter against Dallas?

[KYPack]

We ran pretty well against that better D line, without nearly the fearsome running game the Cowboys have. Grant is not yet heathly and did anyone expect Jackson to look that good in the 2nd half? Was it a product of the Cowboys playing pass exclusively? Perhaps.

But the differences between our O Line and their D Line are not as bad as the highlight package will make it seem. We had opportunities.

Our D line versus their O line is a bigger gap. But even there, until the last long pass play for a TD, it was tight. They found a pass rush in the second half. But the young WR solved the Cowboys inability to get deep on us and closed the deal.

Dallas is very tight in both engine rooms. Their OL and DL are the envy of the league. They have some weaknesses and can be had, but you must have a perfect and maximum effort to get 'em. Their defense can be had. Dallas would kill to have our corners and our safeties when Bigby is healthy.

We will continue to get better and better, while Dallas is peaking. It's a long season, will Dallas wear down? Man I hope so. How many of you saw the parallels between this season and '95? Dallas is the bad guy and we are the scrappy young team that is on the rise. I hope it plays out like 95 - 96 did. The old guys peak and lose it, while our young boys keep growing and get it together .

[Partial]

Our offense is more vanilla this year, and while our quarterbacks numbers are solid and reflect good decision making, we're not getting playmaker type play from their.

As opposed to the great play we got from last years' starter against Dallas?

At least we didn't play scared and would take a shot down the field. Down by 18 with 5 minutes to go and we have a 3.5 minute drive loaded with slants into the middle of the field for 10 yards. Ridic.

[SkinBasket]

Our offense is more vanilla this year, and while our quarterbacks numbers are solid and reflect good decision making, we're not getting playmaker type play from their.

As opposed to the great play we got from last years' starter against Dallas?

At least we didn't play scared and would take a shot down the field. Down by 18 with 5 minutes to go and we have a 3.5 minute drive loaded with slants into the middle of the field for 10 yards. Ridic.

Go play some more Madden. Going deep there gets you a receiver with a broken head, an INT, or both. That's "ridic."

[prsnfoto]

It's ridiculous to whine about Rodgers not being a playmaker just because he doesn't stupidly force it into coverage and throw interceptions.

Favre would have been run ragged and not even been in position to make the decisions that Rodgers did. Rodgers has made big plays against other teams and will continue to do so--against anything short of the tough smart defense we saw tonight.

We've GOT our playmaker QB; We've also got playmaker receivers and RB. They just didn't make the plays tonight due to smart tough defense.

Pass the crack pipe PLEASE. Rodgers has played well but he holds the ball way to long Favre would not have been run ragged because the ball would have been gone much faster, that said he probably would have thrown a pick either way the Boy's are the better team. Honestly TPB you are probably a nice guy and I respect the fact you are the ultimate "homer" but that is not much of a leap away from the idiocy of Tank.

[Partial]

Our offense is more vanilla this year, and while our quarterbacks numbers are solid and reflect good decision making, we're not getting playmaker type play from their.

As opposed to the great play we got from last years' starter against Dallas?

At least we didn't play scared and would take a shot down the field. Down by 18 with 5 minutes to go and we have a 3.5 minute drive loaded with slants into the middle of the field for 10 yards. Ridic.

Go play some more Madden. Going deep there gets you a receiver with a broken head, an INT, or both. That's "ridic."

Going deep to our receiver who is a league leader in receptions in the air over 50 yards? I don't comprehend. If you get an INT, fine, but at least they are playing to win. Taking 3.5 minutes and accepting defeat to pad stats is ridiculous. How on earth they thought they'd have a chance for two scores with a minute left after their epic 3.5 minute middle of the field drive is beyond me. Ever heard of a sideline or taking a deep shot to keep the defense honest? Give me a break.

[prsnfoto]

I really don't think Dallas is as talented. Sure, they're better offensively but they can be exposed defensively. We didn't make it happen. Remember, we did start with a lead despite an early turnover. We should have led big but we can't close the deal.

Now that is silly talk after listening to MM last week he pointed out that both Favre and Rodgers looked good because of his system. Travaris Jackson would be a league MVP in this system the greatest system of all-time.

[PackerTimer]

Rodgers was just ok; not bad and not good. Sometimes he held the ball too long; in a key play he got rid of it too early. He was off and on. Let's not make this into a AROD thing or a AROD and BF thing. Our record would probably be the same either way. Dallas is just much more talented all around right now.

Completely agree. Dallas is better than Green Bay with Rodger or with Favre.

[PackerTimer]

Our offense is more vanilla this year, and while our quarterbacks numbers are solid and reflect good decision making, we're not getting playmaker type play from their.

As opposed to the great play we got from last years' starter against Dallas?

At least we didn't play scared and would take a shot down the field. Down by 18 with 5 minutes to go and we have a 3.5 minute drive loaded with slants into the middle of the field for 10 yards. Ridic.

Ok, I'll post it again, a drive in a game where Favre was at the helm and then tonights. Both are farily similar with a lot of short passes. The Favre game we were down 10 with a little over two minutes to go. Not many deep passes because they simply aren't there.

If you're thinking of the Broncos and Chargers game from last year please remember that those were very close games, in fact we might have been tied in both of them and really the toss to Jennings was a short slant that went for a big gain.

I'm not bashing Favre here like you guys are tryig to bash Rodgers. You just don't make those plays in these types of games.

1st and 10 at GB 12 (2:31) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short right to A.Green pushed ob at GB 14 for 2 yards (K.Herndon).

2nd and 8 at GB 14 (2:25) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short right to A.Green to GB 20 for 6 yards (M.Boulware, C.Darby).

3rd and 2 at GB 20 (2:06) (No Huddle) B.Favre pass short left to A.Green to GB 27 for 7 yards (J.Peterson).

Two-Minute Warning
1st and 10 at GB 27 (2:00) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short middle to B.Franks to GB 36 for 9 yards (J.Peterson, L.Tatupu).

2nd and 1 at GB 36 (1:41) (No Huddle) B.Favre pass short right to G.Jennings to GB 44 for 8 yards (K.Hamlin, K.Jennings).

1st and 10 at GB 44 (1:14) (No Huddle, Shotgun) B.Favre pass short left to N.Herron pushed ob at GB 44 for no gain (M.Trufant).

2nd and 10 at GB 44 (1:10) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass incomplete short right to G.Jennings (J.Peterson).

3rd and 10 at GB 44 (1:05) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short middle to N.Herron to SEA 46 for 10 yards (M.Boulware, L.Tatupu).

1st and 10 at SEA 46 (:52) (No Huddle, Shotgun) PENALTY on GB-B.Franks, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 46 - No Play. 10 second runoff.

1st and 15 at GB 49 (:25) B.Favre pass incomplete deep right to B.Franks.
2nd and 15 at GB 49 (:25) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass deep right to D.Driver to SEA 27 for 24 yards (K.Hamlin, J.Peterson).

PENALTY on GB, Illegal Shift, 5 yards, enforced at GB 49 - No Play.
2nd and 20 at GB 44 (:16) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short middle to N.Herron to SEA 45 for 11 yards (G.Wistrom, J.Peterson).

3rd and 9 at SEA 45 (:01) (No Huddle) B.Favre sacked at 50 for -5 yards (D.Tapp). FUMBLES (D.Tapp), RECOVERED by SEA-C.Terrill at SEA 46. C.Terrill to GB 49 for 5 yards. C.Terrill pass incomplete.

And now the one from tonight.

1st and 10 at GB 13 (5:34) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to G.Jennings to GB 19 for 6 yards (M.Jenkins).

2nd and 4 at GB 19 (5:12) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to J.Nelson to GB 33 for 14 yards (K.Burnett, K.Hamlin).

1st and 10 at GB 33 (4:47) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to J.Nelson to GB 40 for 7 yards (A.Jones).

2nd and 3 at GB 40 (4:26) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short middle to D.Driver to DAL 48 for 12 yards (A.Henry).
1st and 10 at DAL 48 (4:03) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to G.Jennings pushed ob at DAL 28 for 20 yards (K.Hamlin).
1st and 10 at DAL 28 (3:56) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to B.Jackson to DAL 7 for 21 yards (M.Jenkins).

PENALTY on GB-D.Colledge, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DAL 28 - No Play.

1st and 20 at DAL 38 (3:48) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep middle to J.Nelson.

2nd and 20 at DAL 38 (3:43) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to D.Driver.

PENALTY on DAL-J.Hatcher, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 38 - No Play.

2nd and 15 at DAL 33 (3:35) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to D.Lee to DAL 23 for 10 yards (K.Hamlin, K.Burnett).

3rd and 5 at DAL 23 (3:09) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to J.Nelson to DAL 15 for 8 yards (K.Hamlin; A.Jones).

1st and 10 at DAL 15 (2:46) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to J.Nelson.

2nd and 10 at DAL 15 (2:42) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to J.Nelson to DAL 2 for 13 yards (A.Henry; A.Jones).

1st and 2 at DAL 2 (2:19) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left [A.Henry].

PENALTY on DAL-K.Hamlin, Defensive Holding, 1 yard, enforced at DAL 2 - No Play.

1st and 1 at DAL 1 (2:14) A.Rodgers left guard for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.