NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND

[packerbacker1234]

Remember, it's the FREAKIN' Cardinals. That wouldn't know a decent D if came and kicked them in the butt.

After playing a swarming 'D in SD Monday, Favre got beat up and threw 1 pick 6 and should have had a 2nd.

Flip side, from what highlights I did see, Rodgers did look out of sorts today.

Cardinals Gave up.. in order of games:

13 - 10 - 24 all prior today. Thats less points then we have given up. So, needless to say, their defense has been pretty decent prior to the Jets game.

Favre did get a little beat up in SD on Monday night... but he still managed to throw three TD's, two of which came with the game still in reach. On top of that, while getting "beat up", he bounced back with not just a win, but a new personal best. Say what you want about how horrible the Cardinals defense is - but Brett had 16 years in GB to accomplish this feet and he played some teams WORSE then the cardinals this year... and never got 6 of those babies in the endzone.

Rodger's looked more then out of sorts this week. All I have heard for years now with Favre in GB is every game... all the ints that should of been.

Well, it's only fair then to do it with rodgers. Rodgers, last week, should of had 3 ints. Three balls hit defenders square int he hands last week. Thats one reason I said last week was an horrible performance by rodgers. Couldn't score when it mattered... could convert third downs, and couldn't produce drives. He should of had turnovers - but the cowboys can't catch a cold.

This week - ok I will give it one wasn't his fault (although, Favre use to get blamed for those same sort of ints just because he threw the ball there)... but the other 2? Inexcusable. Even if you want to argue the third... it was a duck coming out. His shoulder was obviously pretty hurt.

On top of that, what was it, 2 or 3 other passes in the game that should of been picks?

Just saying, this is two weeks in a Row Rodger's has looked horrible. Ironicaly, these past two weeks happened to be the best teams we have played. So, Rodger's looked good against bad teams, and looked bad against good teams. By that theory, he is an average QB. Of course, he also got hurt.

I know this - Favre is starting next week. How about Rodgers?

[Pacopete4]

Remember, it's the FREAKIN' Cardinals. That wouldn't know a decent D if came and kicked them in the butt.

After playing a swarming 'D in SD Monday, Favre got beat up and threw 1 pick 6 and should have had a 2nd.

Flip side, from what highlights I did see, Rodgers did look out of sorts today.

Cardinals Gave up.. in order of games:

13 - 10 - 24 all prior today. Thats less points then we have given up. So, needless to say, their defense has been pretty decent prior to the Jets game.

Favre did get a little beat up in SD on Monday night... but he still managed to throw three TD's, two of which came with the game still in reach. On top of that, while getting "beat up", he bounced back with not just a win, but a new personal best. Say what you want about how horrible the Cardinals defense is - but Brett had 16 years in GB to accomplish this feet and he played some teams WORSE then the cardinals this year... and never got 6 of those babies in the endzone.

Rodger's looked more then out of sorts this week. All I have heard for years now with Favre in GB is every game... all the ints that should of been.

Well, it's only fair then to do it with rodgers. Rodgers, last week, should of had 3 ints. Three balls hit defenders square int he hands last week. Thats one reason I said last week was an horrible performance by rodgers. Couldn't score when it mattered... could convert third downs, and couldn't produce drives. He should of had turnovers - but the cowboys can't catch a cold.

This week - ok I will give it one wasn't his fault (although, Favre use to get blamed for those same sort of ints just because he threw the ball there)... but the other 2? Inexcusable. Even if you want to argue the third... it was a duck coming out. His shoulder was obviously pretty hurt.

On top of that, what was it, 2 or 3 other passes in the game that should of been picks?

Just saying, this is two weeks in a Row Rodger's has looked horrible. Ironicaly, these past two weeks happened to be the best teams we have played. So, Rodger's looked good against bad teams, and looked bad against good teams. By that theory, he is an average QB. Of course, he also got hurt.

I know this - Favre is starting next week. How about Rodgers?

Loved the entire post!, very good info and perspective.. at age 39, Favre still crumbles Rodgers as a QB... its as simple as that... we all know there were other reasons we traded favre but if we wanted to put the best team on the field THIS YEAR, we really missed the boat on this one

[Packnut]

Favre

8-8, 9-7 more like it... favre was the difference maker on this team and now he's gone so we're back to mediocre


i feel bad for the older guys on this team because by the time rodgers learns enough to get good, if ever, they'll be replaced with more draft picks who are 22-25 yrs old

Well, it started with Favre, but Thompson's multitude of mistakes will soon come to pass, although I'd doubt losing every game the rest of the season would open anyone's eyes around here. Hell, most of these people thought ya can just walk into the QB position and everything would be ok.

But, QB does'nt work like that. Rodgers will need a few years experience before he's an above average QB. However, he's the least of our problems. It's starts with a ZBS that has failed. Offensive lineman who have little talent and a defensive line that imploded before our eyes.

The only blessing today is that it's the beginning of the end for the Thompson era. Yeah, it will take another 2-3 seasons but his end will come.

But let's remember there were a few of us who saw it coming. There were a few of us who said Favre carried this team and that without him things would change. A few of us knew it was Favre and not McCarthy's scheme that led to a great season.

And there were also a few of us who realized just how damn close we were and what we needed to take the next step. Thompson should have been on Favre's door a week after the season ended with a plan to fix our run game problems that NY exploited. There should have been some money commited to at least one of the big name o-lineman that were out there.

There were a few of us that realized early that Harrell was useless. An effort to shore up that D line should have been made. As it is, Teddy did NOTHING except get rid of Favre. He and MM swore to us that improvment would come from with-in. Well, it has'nt. Cliffy and Taush are near the end and no where suited for a ZBS. Spitz and Colledge are mediocre at best.

Sadly, the window in the NFL closes very quickly. Teddy cast the die and came up snake eyes. Rodgers will need time to gain experience as will our back-ups. Let the re-building begin.............................

[Rastak]

Re: Favre

8-8, 9-7 more like it... favre was the difference maker on this team and now he's gone so we're back to mediocre


i feel bad for the older guys on this team because by the time rodgers learns enough to get good, if ever, they'll be replaced with more draft picks who are 22-25 yrs old

Well, it started with Favre, but Thompson's multitude of mistakes will soon come to pass, although I'd doubt losing every game the rest of the season would open anyone's eyes around here. Hell, most of these people thought ya can just walk into the QB position and everything would be ok.

But, QB does'nt work like that. Rodgers will need a few years experience before he's an above average QB. However, he's the least of our problems. It's starts with a ZBS that has failed. Offensive lineman who have little talent and a defensive line that imploded before our eyes.

The only blessing today is that it's the beginning of the end for the Thompson era. Yeah, it will take another 2-3 seasons but his end will come.

But let's remember there were a few of us who saw it coming. There were a few of us who said Favre carried this team and that without him things would change. A few of us knew it was Favre and not McCarthy's scheme that led to a great season.

And there were also a few of us who realized just how damn close we were and what we needed to take the next step. Thompson should have been on Favre's door a week after the season ended with a plan to fix our run game problems that NY exploited. There should have been some money commited to at least one of the big name o-lineman that were out there.

There were a few of us that realized early that Harrell was useless. An effort to shore up that D line should have been made. As it is, Teddy did NOTHING except get rid of Favre. He and MM swore to us that improvment would come from with-in. Well, it has'nt. Cliffy and Taush are near the end and no where suited for a ZBS. Spitz and Colledge are mediocre at best.

Sadly, the window in the NFL closes very quickly. Teddy cast the die and came up snake eyes. Rodgers will need time to gain experience as will our back-ups. Let the re-building begin.............................

Let me guess, you just finished "The Power of Positive Thinking

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

8-8, 9-7 more like it... favre was the difference maker on this team and now he's gone so we're back to mediocre


i feel bad for the older guys on this team because by the time rodgers learns enough to get good, if ever, they'll be replaced with more draft picks who are 22-25 yrs old

Well, it started with Favre, but Thompson's multitude of mistakes will soon come to pass, although I'd doubt losing every game the rest of the season would open anyone's eyes around here. Hell, most of these people thought ya can just walk into the QB position and everything would be ok.

But, QB does'nt work like that. Rodgers will need a few years experience before he's an above average QB. However, he's the least of our problems. It's starts with a ZBS that has failed. Offensive lineman who have little talent and a defensive line that imploded before our eyes.

The only blessing today is that it's the beginning of the end for the Thompson era. Yeah, it will take another 2-3 seasons but his end will come.

But let's remember there were a few of us who saw it coming. There were a few of us who said Favre carried this team and that without him things would change. A few of us knew it was Favre and not McCarthy's scheme that led to a great season.

And there were also a few of us who realized just how damn close we were and what we needed to take the next step. Thompson should have been on Favre's door a week after the season ended with a plan to fix our run game problems that NY exploited. There should have been some money commited to at least one of the big name o-lineman that were out there.

There were a few of us that realized early that Harrell was useless. An effort to shore up that D line should have been made. As it is, Teddy did NOTHING except get rid of Favre. He and MM swore to us that improvment would come from with-in. Well, it has'nt. Cliffy and Taush are near the end and no where suited for a ZBS. Spitz and Colledge are mediocre at best.

Sadly, the window in the NFL closes very quickly. Teddy cast the die and came up snake eyes. Rodgers will need time to gain experience as will our back-ups. Let the re-building begin.............................

Let me guess, you just finished "The Power of Positive Thinking

No, just cold hard reality. Have a nice evening my prurple friend!

[Rastak]

Re: Favre

8-8, 9-7 more like it... favre was the difference maker on this team and now he's gone so we're back to mediocre


i feel bad for the older guys on this team because by the time rodgers learns enough to get good, if ever, they'll be replaced with more draft picks who are 22-25 yrs old

Well, it started with Favre, but Thompson's multitude of mistakes will soon come to pass, although I'd doubt losing every game the rest of the season would open anyone's eyes around here. Hell, most of these people thought ya can just walk into the QB position and everything would be ok.

But, QB does'nt work like that. Rodgers will need a few years experience before he's an above average QB. However, he's the least of our problems. It's starts with a ZBS that has failed. Offensive lineman who have little talent and a defensive line that imploded before our eyes.

The only blessing today is that it's the beginning of the end for the Thompson era. Yeah, it will take another 2-3 seasons but his end will come.

But let's remember there were a few of us who saw it coming. There were a few of us who said Favre carried this team and that without him things would change. A few of us knew it was Favre and not McCarthy's scheme that led to a great season.

And there were also a few of us who realized just how damn close we were and what we needed to take the next step. Thompson should have been on Favre's door a week after the season ended with a plan to fix our run game problems that NY exploited. There should have been some money commited to at least one of the big name o-lineman that were out there.

There were a few of us that realized early that Harrell was useless. An effort to shore up that D line should have been made. As it is, Teddy did NOTHING except get rid of Favre. He and MM swore to us that improvment would come from with-in. Well, it has'nt. Cliffy and Taush are near the end and no where suited for a ZBS. Spitz and Colledge are mediocre at best.

Sadly, the window in the NFL closes very quickly. Teddy cast the die and came up snake eyes. Rodgers will need time to gain experience as will our back-ups. Let the re-building begin.............................

Let me guess, you just finished "The Power of Positive Thinking

No, just cold hard reality. Have a nice evening my prurple friend!

Thanks!

I didn't see the the game, just the gamecast so I'll take your word for the doom and gloom. Which could be good since the Vikes are 1-3 after some key turnovers today.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Remember, it's the FREAKIN' Cardinals. That wouldn't know a decent D if came and kicked them in the butt.

After playing a swarming 'D in SD Monday, Favre got beat up and threw 1 pick 6 and should have had a 2nd.

Flip side, from what highlights I did see, Rodgers did look out of sorts today.

Cardinals Gave up.. in order of games:

13 - 10 - 24 all prior today. Thats less points then we have given up. So, needless to say, their defense has been pretty decent prior to the Jets game.

It might be nice if you actually threw in some relevant info.

The cards, until last week, hadn't played anybody...so acting like their d is good is a joke.

Let's see..giving up 13 to a pathetic SanFran offense led by a sportsbar for a QB in his first start...wow, impressive.

Giving up 10 to a pathetic Fins team at home..wow, impressive.

Hmm, facing a decent team..BAM!! 24 points..136 yards rushing and letting Campbell go 22 for 30.

The cards defense isn't great.

And, Favre was working all day with a short field, one td, the CB was lying on the ground at the line of scrimmage hurt, and the cards were without a Pro Bowler in Wilson.

[GrnBay007]

And, Favre was working all day with a short field, one td, the CB was lying on the ground at the line of scrimmage hurt, and the cards were without a Pro Bowler in Wilson.

I just really don't understand why it bothers some people so much when the man has a good day.

[LEWCWA]

Re: NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND

This is why you don't trade Favre. Rodgers goes down and the Pack is screwed.

TT should have brought in a vet backup.

Why did you not create a thread "NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND" after Rodgers had good games? Aren't the lessons there equally valid.

This is loser stuff.

This thread isn't about how either player played. It is about going into a season with one QB.

[mmmdk]

Re: NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND

This is why you don't trade Favre. Rodgers goes down and the Pack is screwed.

TT should have brought in a vet backup.

Why did you not create a thread "NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND" after Rodgers had good games? Aren't the lessons there equally valid.

This is loser stuff.

This thread isn't about how either player played. It is about going into a season with one QB.

Flynn & Brohn are not QBs? ...so sneaky these rookies.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

And, Favre was working all day with a short field, one td, the CB was lying on the ground at the line of scrimmage hurt, and the cards were without a Pro Bowler in Wilson.

I just really don't understand why it bothers some people so much when the man has a good day.

Doesn't bother me one bit. But, let's at least be intellectually honest about the caliber of d he was facing and type of team.

The Jet's defense was killing Warner..and thru fumbles the Jet's o barely had to move the ball at all.

The cards aren't good. Their defense wasn't good and their best player in the d backfield was out. And, they were missing their best pass rusher in Berry.

One TD he threw..the cb was crumpled on the ground. A high school QB coulda made the pass..nobody was 20 yards near the receiver.

[LEWCWA]

Re: NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND

This is why you don't trade Favre. Rodgers goes down and the Pack is screwed.

TT should have brought in a vet backup.

Why did you not create a thread "NOW WE SHOULD ALL UNDERSTAND" after Rodgers had good games? Aren't the lessons there equally valid.

This is loser stuff.

This thread isn't about how either player played. It is about going into a season with one QB.

Flynn & Brohn are not QBs? ...so sneaky these rookies.

Are they. Did you think Flynn was going to take the team down the field to win the game?

[falco]

i'm pro rodgers, pro tt, etc, etc, etc

but you can't excuse away favre's 6 TDs

man had a good day, and proved he still has it

doesn't mean TT/MM made the wrong decision though....

[Pacopete4]

And, Favre was working all day with a short field, one td, the CB was lying on the ground at the line of scrimmage hurt, and the cards were without a Pro Bowler in Wilson.

I just really don't understand why it bothers some people so much when the man has a good day.

Doesn't bother me one bit. But, let's at least be intellectually honest about the caliber of d he was facing and type of team.

The Jet's defense was killing Warner..and thru fumbles the Jet's o barely had to move the ball at all.

The cards aren't good. Their defense wasn't good and their best player in the d backfield was out. And, they were missing their best pass rusher in Berry.

One TD he threw..the cb was crumpled on the ground. A high school QB coulda made the pass..nobody was 20 yards near the receiver.

[LEWCWA]

They should both be in GB, You need quality players. The Packers gave away one of the best QB's in the league. Rodgers is soft, and we have nobody that can lead this team behind him.