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  • #16
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    the backups may suck, which is the most likely thing... but u CANNOT say they do because we have not seen them get a chance in games... therefore, u cannot start telling me TT failed there...
    The idea of having TWO rookie QBs on the roster is problematic. You can't count on a rookie to be a backup.
    Today is only one incident, but it clearly demonstrated what a fix the Packers are in when Rodgers gets an owy. My opinion stands regardless of today's drama.
    Tom Brady kindly disagrees.

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    • #17
      not sure what you are getting at - was Brady a backup as a rookie?

      Obviously there are exceptions, hell, Manning was effective as a starter as a rookie. I'm just talking about percentages.

      Matt Cassel is not a rookie, if that is what you are getting at.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joemailman
        Flynn was put in a tough situation. Before he got to run a play, a penalty was called. Packers couldn't run the ball and the TB defense knew it. If he has to start a game, he'll be better prepared than he was in that situation. If the Pack can't find a RB who can do better than 15 carries for 20 yards, it might not matter who the QB is.
        Great post, I agree with the whole damn thing. The guy was dropped into a pressure packed situation with the game on the line. At least give him a few pass attempts before calling him garbage.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by cpk1994
          Tom Brady kindly disagrees.
          He was in his 2nd year.

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          • #20
            We were very conservative with our play calling when A-Rod was playing. When Flynn got in, when looked like a Pop Warner team.

            We can't run. We can't block. We can't tackle.

            Right now, we have about 11 decent players spread on three phases, not injured. This season is vorbei.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tarlam!
              We were very conservative with our play calling when A-Rod was playing. When Flynn got in, when looked like a Pop Warner team.

              We can't run. We can't block. We can't tackle.

              Right now, we have about 11 decent players spread on three phases, not injured. This season is vorbei.
              The horror OL, the horror OL. TT has been spoiled with Hasselbeck then BF; I have a feeling TT thinks he can patch an O-line on the fly and let your QB bail'em out. Rodgers is, at least, Hasselbeck good. I'm with LeRoy Butler; we've got a QB in Rodgers - so help him out TT. Our is currently OL is bottom 5 in the NFL. Nuff said.
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              • #22
                My biggest concern is this:

                Say next week Rodgers can't go (looks all but certain he wont. You don't just go out an play a week later after a dislocated shoulder on the throwing arm. It needs rest, and lots of it. Just hoping that is the worst of it.) and Flynn gets the nod.

                What happens in packer nation, say, if Flynn goes out, gets us a win, and looks damn impressive. Is there suddenly a QB competition? Management wont let that happen, but you h ave to wonder - do the packers seriously have to remain commited to AR if some comes in when he is hurt and can get the job done?


                Still, this is future guessing. Just curious how we would react. It doesn't change the fact that, especially this last game, we would of had a better chance the one series without Rodgers if the qb in had experience at an NFL level. Thats almost undeniable.

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                • #23
                  Dear Mr. Thompson,

                  Please sign a veteran back-up quarterback.

                  Signed,

                  Greg Jennings
                  Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sheepshead
                    Dear Mr. Thompson,

                    Please sign a veteran back-up quarterback.

                    Signed,

                    Greg Jennings


                    he he
                    They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                    Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                      What happens in packer nation, say, if Flynn goes out, gets us a win, and looks damn impressive. Is there suddenly a QB competition?
                      That is a problem like winning the lottery and not knowing what to do with the money.

                      I wasn't being crtitical of Flynn because of a couple plays. It is obvious that the coaches don't really trust him, or they would have not tried to go with Rodgers after he strained his shoulder. The GM didn't give the coaches a realistic backup at QB. Its a wing and a prayer strategy.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        That is a problem like winning the lottery and not knowing what to do with the money.

                        I wasn't being crtitical of Flynn because of a couple plays. It is obvious that the coaches don't really trust him, or they would have not tried to go with Rodgers after he strained his shoulder. The GM didn't give the coaches a realistic backup at QB. Its a wing and a prayer strategy.
                        Personally, I think your jumping to conclusions. Rodgers was throwing on the sidelines before he came back in. It seems likely that that Rodgers said he was able to throw and they believed him. I mean, he throw a 30Yd strike to Jennings AFTER he was hurt. Why wouldn't they think he might be good to go. How many times did Favre limp off the sidelines only to be let back in the game back when we the likes of Hasselback as a backup? Obviously it must have been because they didn't have faith in their backups....the same backups who looked great in the preseason and ended up as starters?

                        Maybe your theory is correct, but it doesn't seem as obvious as you seem to think.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sharpe1027
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          That is a problem like winning the lottery and not knowing what to do with the money.

                          I wasn't being crtitical of Flynn because of a couple plays. It is obvious that the coaches don't really trust him, or they would have not tried to go with Rodgers after he strained his shoulder. The GM didn't give the coaches a realistic backup at QB. Its a wing and a prayer strategy.
                          Personally, I think your jumping to conclusions. Rodgers was throwing on the sidelines before he came back in. It seems likely that that Rodgers said he was able to throw and they believed him. I mean, he throw a 30Yd strike to Jennings AFTER he was hurt. Why wouldn't they think he might be good to go. How many times did Favre limp off the sidelines only to be let back in the game back when we the likes of Hasselback as a backup? Obviously it must have been because they didn't have faith in their backups....the same backups who looked great in the preseason and ended up as starters?

                          Maybe your theory is correct, but it doesn't seem as obvious as you seem to think.

                          That's plausible too.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            the coaches throwing Rodgers back out there with a limp throwing arm was an admission of failure. They don't trust Flynn to do the job he is penciled-in to do. That's on the GM.
                            I was watching that game and thinking the same thing. I mean I always want you guys to lose but dammit, at least make sense of it. Why would you put your injured franchise QB back out there is beyond me when you have drafted two QB's (one in the 2nd round) to jump in just in case something like this happened. But as a Bear fan I just smiled and thought of how happy Brett was when he saw this game on his tivo when he got home...lol.
                            Boy it sucks to not have the Iron Man back there doesnt it?


                            Oh boy agreeing with a Packer fan...YUCK!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              the coaches throwing Rodgers back out there with a limp throwing arm was an admission of failure. They don't trust Flynn to do the job he is penciled-in to do. That's on the GM.
                              I was watching that game and thinking the same thing. I mean I always want you guys to lose but dammit, at least make sense of it. Why would you put your injured franchise QB back out there is beyond me when you have drafted two QB's (one in the 2nd round) to jump in just in case something like this happened. But as a Bear fan I just smiled and thought of how happy Brett was when he saw this game on his tivo when he got home...lol.
                              Boy it sucks to not have the Iron Man back there doesnt it?


                              Oh boy agreeing with a Packer fan...YUCK!
                              yes; but some of us are happy brett has a fresh start. plus we STILL hav a better QB than yal flatlanders...
                              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                                Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                the coaches throwing Rodgers back out there with a limp throwing arm was an admission of failure. They don't trust Flynn to do the job he is penciled-in to do. That's on the GM.
                                I was watching that game and thinking the same thing. I mean I always want you guys to lose but dammit, at least make sense of it. Why would you put your injured franchise QB back out there is beyond me when you have drafted two QB's (one in the 2nd round) to jump in just in case something like this happened. But as a Bear fan I just smiled and thought of how happy Brett was when he saw this game on his tivo when he got home...lol.
                                Boy it sucks to not have the Iron Man back there doesnt it?


                                Oh boy agreeing with a Packer fan...YUCK!
                                yes; but some of us are happy brett has a fresh start. plus we STILL hav a better QB than yal flatlanders...
                                Uh, you guys have a injured QB. Who majority of his yards are always to the same WR. We have a QB that is still standing and threw 3 TD's after playing the stingiest defense in the NFL. I dont think Rodgers will ever complete an entire season without getting hurt. Say hello to your very own Bonafide Packers version of Rex Grossman!

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