Brett Favre would've started; a little shoulder boo boo

[cpk1994]

It was obvious he was doing damage to his shoulder by making those hard throws, he was in sharp pain.

We don't know that.

then he deserves an oscar for his wincing and arm grabbing

wincing and arm grabbing means pain, not neccesarliy increased arm damage. To say he was doing damage to his arm is purely speculative.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's hard to imagine that throwing hard with an inflamed shoulder isn't going to make it worse.

[Scott Campbell]

It's hard to imagine that throwing hard with an inflamed shoulder isn't going to make it worse.

No harder to imagine that than the coaching staff subjecting him to further injury risk.

[Pacopete4]

It's hard to imagine that throwing hard with an inflamed shoulder isn't going to make it worse.

might make it worse for a couple of days, but it will do no more damage to the arm... might swell up, but as we all know, swelling does go down

[Harlan Huckleby]

obviously the coaches subjected him to further injury risk.

Why do you suppose that pitchers only pitch every three days?

When a shoulder is stressed, it needs rest to recover. Rodger's is badly inflamed, judging by his sharp pain.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's hard to imagine that throwing hard with an inflamed shoulder isn't going to make it worse.

might make it worse for a couple of days, but it will do no more damage to the arm... might swell up, but as we all know, swelling does go down

Good God.

yes, a sprain will get better with rest, that's a given. Rodgers isn't crippled for life.

"swelling" means more damage was done. Playing this week may have made his shoulder much worse.

[Scott Campbell]

obviously the coaches subjected him to further injury risk.

Why do you suppose that pitchers only pitch every three days?

When a shoulder is stressed, it needs rest to recover. Rodger's is badly inflamed, judging by his sharp pain.

I doubt that the coaching staff would have subjected themselves to a high risk of losing Rodgers for the season given our backup situation. I'm not buying your story this time. But that's ok. Were still friends.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think the coaches risked losing Rodgers for the season.

But I think they risked Rodger's effectiveness for the near term, he may be hurt for the Chicago game, or worse.

[Merlin]

Great, now we have a room full of arm chair Doctors.

Way back when I could play sports, I had at first a shoulder sprain and I played through it. Anyone who has ever had this type of injury knows it is not just using it that hurts, it hurts when you breath hard, it hurts when you run, and it sure as hell hurts when you are thrown to the ground. I never had the drugs put into me that I am sure Rodgers did to get through the pain but I did take pain killers to play. One of the stupidest mistakes I ever made. The pain was "subdued" but so were the signs of it getting worse. In the end, the whole shoulder needed to be reconstructed and was never the same again. Had I taken a few weeks to a month to let it heal, things could have been different. With medicine today, I am sure a few weeks and Rodgers would be fine. To sit there and say he wasn't doing further damage by using it is naive. I am not going to sit here and defend my position on this matter. From personal experience, this was a bad move by the Packers. Judging by the looks on Rodgers face, it is worse then I thought it was.

[Pacopete4]

Great, now we have a room full of arm chair Doctors.

Way back when I could play sports, I had at first a shoulder sprain and I played through it. Anyone who has ever had this type of injury knows it is not just using it that hurts, it hurts when you breath hard, it hurts when you run, and it sure as hell hurts when you are thrown to the ground. I never had the drugs put into me that I am sure Rodgers did to get through the pain but I did take pain killers to play. One of the stupidest mistakes I ever made. The pain was "subdued" but so were the signs of it getting worse. In the end, the whole shoulder needed to be reconstructed and was never the same again. Had I taken a few weeks to a month to let it heal, things could have been different. With medicine today, I am sure a few weeks and Rodgers would be fine. To sit there and say he wasn't doing further damage by using it is naive. I am not going to sit here and defend my position on this matter. From personal experience, this was a bad move by the Packers. Judging by the looks on Rodgers face, it is worse then I thought it was.

you just stated u dont like armchair doctors and then go on and say that u know he was hurting it more? how do you know... u armchair doctor u!

[gex]

Great, now we have a room full of arm chair Doctors.

Way back when I could play sports, I had at first a shoulder sprain and I played through it. Anyone who has ever had this type of injury knows it is not just using it that hurts, it hurts when you breath hard, it hurts when you run, and it sure as hell hurts when you are thrown to the ground. I never had the drugs put into me that I am sure Rodgers did to get through the pain but I did take pain killers to play. One of the stupidest mistakes I ever made. The pain was "subdued" but so were the signs of it getting worse. In the end, the whole shoulder needed to be reconstructed and was never the same again. Had I taken a few weeks to a month to let it heal, things could have been different. With medicine today, I am sure a few weeks and Rodgers would be fine. To sit there and say he wasn't doing further damage by using it is naive. I am not going to sit here and defend my position on this matter. From personal experience, this was a bad move by the Packers. Judging by the looks on Rodgers face, it is worse then I thought it was.

You know this is just an attempt to live up to the ironman status that Favre has.
I dont believe its a good idea at all. If that shoulder gets rocked(50-50) by a blindside sack or even a hard hit it could put the rest of our season in jeapordy.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Funny how cheese hasn't come back to this thread. Perhaps he is having a tough time removing the size 12 from his mouth.

I obviously was parroting what the pregame show announcers were saying on the Packer Radio Network and thought it a good discussion topic.

Rodgers rather than warming up was getting treatment.

His performance and stats were impressive.

Brett Favre was as sure a bet as the sunrise and that reliability and deterimination is something to celebrate and cheer. Sprains, strains, and fractured bones did not keep Brett Favre from starting. A fractured thumb on his throwing hand was just a boo boo.

[Merlin]

Great, now we have a room full of arm chair Doctors.

Way back when I could play sports, I had at first a shoulder sprain and I played through it. Anyone who has ever had this type of injury knows it is not just using it that hurts, it hurts when you breath hard, it hurts when you run, and it sure as hell hurts when you are thrown to the ground. I never had the drugs put into me that I am sure Rodgers did to get through the pain but I did take pain killers to play. One of the stupidest mistakes I ever made. The pain was "subdued" but so were the signs of it getting worse. In the end, the whole shoulder needed to be reconstructed and was never the same again. Had I taken a few weeks to a month to let it heal, things could have been different. With medicine today, I am sure a few weeks and Rodgers would be fine. To sit there and say he wasn't doing further damage by using it is naive. I am not going to sit here and defend my position on this matter. From personal experience, this was a bad move by the Packers. Judging by the looks on Rodgers face, it is worse then I thought it was.

You know this is just an attempt to live up to the ironman status that Favre has.
I dont believe its a good idea at all. If that shoulder gets rocked(50-50) by a blindside sack or even a hard hit it could put the rest of our season in jeapordy.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I can admire Rodgers for wanting to play but to try and walk in Favre's shoes is ridiculous. I certainly don't expect him to do that, I expect him to use some common sense. My gut is telling me that the Packers have zero confidence in our backups so they allowed Rodgers to play even hurt because it was better then the alternative. This also doesn't change my mind that Rodgers is injury prone either. All of his injuries were the result of himself, not from taking hits. That doesn't mean I want the guy gone, it means that they need to be a little more careful with these types of decisions. What if Rodgers took off and tripped and fell on his shoulder? I bet that would have done more damage than anyone sacking him.

[pbmax]

Funny how cheese hasn't come back to this thread. Perhaps he is having a tough time removing the size 12 from his mouth.

I obviously was parroting what the pregame show announcers were saying on the Packer Radio Network and thought it a good discussion topic.

Rodgers rather than warming up was getting treatment.

His performance and stats were impressive.

Brett Favre was as sure a bet as the sunrise and that reliability and deterimination is something to celebrate and cheer. Sprains, strains, and fractured bones did not keep Brett Favre from starting. A fractured thumb on his throwing hand was just a boo boo.

I was not listening to the radio. You have my apologies for not following your intent.

[MadtownPacker]

I went into this game kinda pissed at Rodgers for whatever reason but the kid sucked it up and left it all on the field. He was hurting and hurting bad but 300 yds and 3 tds dont lie an I give him props for trying to get his team out of the funk it is in. You got my respect ARod.