Were we all fooled?

[Pacopete4]

well if it makes me a troll thinking TT did a lousy job with creating depth on both sides of the line and that MM is doing a lousy job coaching and preparing this team... then sure... I'm a troll and once they fix these problems, I won't bitch about em... not sure why more people are not upset about it

[Partial]

cpk you are as big of a troll as anybody.

This team is banged up by injuries but wasn't that good even before that. Fortunately, that will be the excuse for the poor perfomance this year instead of Rodgers so it will keep the media attention off of him.

Rodgers makes some really questionable decisions. He throws a lot of dumb balls away when people are open, and took 2 sacks today that I thought were ridiculous. Also, if you're going to throw it away throw it over the LOS.

With that said, Tramon is looking pretty good!

[packerbacker1234]

alll the insults just prove u are clueless and cannot say anything on the situation.... Are GM is overrated and our coach got sloppy.... proof is happening as we speak

paco, look at all the other times performing poorly?

the colts, the patriots, the eagles, etc, etc

these are teams that are perennial contenders but due to one reason or another are slow out of the gate this year

you can't judge these things off of a few games

So our coach hasn't gotten sloppy? All those penalties and poor play are due to his great coaching abilities?

you're absolutely right...maybe we can cut M3 loose and pickup scott linehan...or wait until the end of the year and get childress...

Colts - According to the media it's all due to injuries.
Patriots - Well, media or not, everyone knows it's Tom Brady being done for the year.
Eagles - They have been irrelevant since TO was let go a few years back. They are suppose to be good? Overrated is more like it.

Packers - According to media, Favre is gone, so is the magical seasons. Not that I agree, but the other teams slow out the gates are slow for good reasons. Are reason is....?

[Fred's Slacks]

Are reason is....?

Sloppy play (penalties) and injuries.

To be more specific, this team has been let down by the play of two veterans on the OL. Wells and Clifton. Those were not supposed to be weak spots on this team. I know Clifton is getting older but its not uncommon for OL to play at a high level well into their 30s. I think he's been playing hurt. If so, we need to get him out until he's healthy because he is hurting the team with his sloppy play. That combined with Grant's hold out/injury has lead to poor offensive play.

The poor offensive play put our defense in tough spots and made them play more than they should have which lead to the state they are now in. They are almost unrecognizable. The Harris injury was tough, but Tramon has played well enough to plug the leak until he comes back. It still weakens our nickel and dime defense though. Then the injury to Jenkins and we just don't have another Jenkins on the roster (no team has 2). Pile on the fact that Hawk is nursing a groin and we are down to our 4th safety. Some like to rip our depth but no team has the depth to overcome all of that at one time. Maybe if they are staggered through out the season, but not a one time.

IMO this is why the team is struggling. I do agree to an extent that Rodgers cannot always check to the right play or see the blitz coming the way Favre did. That comes with experience and I fully expected Rodgers to have some growing pains this year. The problem is this team was supposed to be good enough to over come his growing pains and so far the offensive line has disappointed.

[cpk1994]

Are reason is....?

Sloppy play (penalties) and injuries.

To be more specific, this team has been let down by the play of two veterans on the OL. Wells and Clifton. Those were not supposed to be weak spots on this team. I know Clifton is getting older but its not uncommon for OL to play at a high level well into their 30s. I think he's been playing hurt. If so, we need to get him out until he's healthy because he is hurting the team with his sloppy play. That combined with Grant's hold out/injury has lead to poor offensive play.

The poor offensive play put our defense in tough spots and made them play more than they should have which lead to the state they are now in. They are almost unrecognizable. The Harris injury was tough, but Tramon has played well enough to plug the leak until he comes back. It still weakens our nickel and dime defense though. Then the injury to Jenkins and we just don't have another Jenkins on the roster (no team has 2). Pile on the fact that Hawk is nursing a groin and we are down to our 4th safety. Some like to rip our depth but no team has the depth to overcome all of that at one time. Maybe if they are staggered through out the season, but not a one time.

IMO this is why the team is struggling. I do agree to an extent that Rodgers cannot always check to the right play or see the blitz coming the way Favre did. That comes with experience and I fully expected Rodgers to have some growing pains this year. The problem is this team was supposed to be good enough to over come his growing pains and so far the offensive line has disappointed.

Good post. I agree with you whole heartedly.

[The Gunshooter]

This team was screwed at the start of training camp with Favre's sorry diva act, Grant's hold out, Williams replacement, gooey Harrell hurt's his lazy ass back trying to make up for missed workouts, Wells is hurt, KGB's knee. Then you mix in shit coaching as evidenced by the incredible amount of penalties and the pussy defense Sanders calls and you have a full scale disaster of a season. It isn't Rodgers for Favre that is the problem although Favre changing his mind really was a calculated pissing match from the get go. No wonder the fucker thinks he is god the way people worship him, it makes me want to puke.

[Merlin]

cpk you are as big of a troll as anybody.

This team is banged up by injuries but wasn't that good even before that. Fortunately, that will be the excuse for the poor perfomance this year instead of Rodgers so it will keep the media attention off of him.

Rodgers makes some really questionable decisions. He throws a lot of dumb balls away when people are open, and took 2 sacks today that I thought were ridiculous. Also, if you're going to throw it away throw it over the LOS.

With that said, Tramon is looking pretty good!

[The Gunshooter]

Don't let me forget to mention the great draft TT had, namely his 3 second round busts.

[Fred's Slacks]

Don't let me forget to mention the great draft TT had, namely his 3 second round busts.

That's officially the earliest I've ever heard a draft pick called a bust.

5 games? Seriously?

[Fred's Slacks]

Fortunately, that will be the excuse for the poor perfomance this year instead of Rodgers so it will keep the media attention off of him.

Rodgers makes some really questionable decisions. He throws a lot of dumb balls away when people are open, and took 2 sacks today that I thought were ridiculous. Also, if you're going to throw it away throw it over the LOS.

Leave it to Partial. Rodgers has a 95.5 passer rating in his first 5 starts behind a suspect OLine and somehow this is still his fault. You can nitpick and find things wrong with anyone if you want to see it. But Favre never made questionable decisions.

[sheepshead]

I dont see a problem with discussing why our GM sucks at getting us a good line on both sides of the ball and why our head coach all of a sudden sucks?

I think it's certainly worth discussing. MM is the guy charged with preparation, and with the injuries, penalties and lack of execution, He is failing miserably, thus far, there's still time to salvage the season. But he has a 13-3 team there and this is in no way ARod's fault.

[The Gunshooter]

Don't let me forget to mention the great draft TT had, namely his 3 second round busts.

That's officially the earliest I've ever heard a draft pick called a bust.

5 games? Seriously?

Maybe I was a little severe because I would expect at least one of them to start but they are scrubs who contribute little.

[sheepshead]

Don't let me forget to mention the great draft TT had, namely his 3 second round busts.

That's officially the earliest I've ever heard a draft pick called a bust.

5 games? Seriously?

Maybe I was a little severe because I would expect at least one of them to start but they are scrubs who contribute little.

A rook starting on a 13-3 team is pretty rare if even unheard of.

[MOBB DEEP]

Re: Were we all fooled?

After seeing our depth so far, were we all fooled by thinking TT knew what the hell he was doing? Our oline hasn't been up and running since he got here and our Dline hasn't improved either... for the GM of the year award winner, shouldn't we expect much more out of him?



Were we also fooled by McCarthy? His play calling and discipline is atrocious. Was he made by #4 being his QB and leader?



sure seems like we were fooled....

not i....

ive said tt will go down in infamy; PLAYERS MAKE THE GAME. other than the pats and colts i dont think any of the SB participants since pack/brons had extraordinary brass

[Packnut]

Clue

I'll be ripped for bringing up Favre. But maybe he made the o-line look better than they were last year. He could pre snap read the blitz coming better than A-rod and got the ball out quicker.

I think A-Rod is playing fine for a first year qb. But if we don't make the playoffs their should be torches and pitch forks at TT office for not bringing in a pro bowl QB from a 13-3 team back.

Why? Aaron Rodgers has performed well. If he keeps playing the way he has, we'll have replaced one pro bowl qb with another. He's probably done about as well as Favre would be doing right now. Was our pro-bowl qb going to play on the defensive line also? Some you people don't have a fucking clue.

The pot calling the kettle black. You have not clues but FACTS looking you right in the face. Favre made the line look better because he sensed back-side pressure. He knew when to slip slide and glide. This is the same damn line but yet the sacks are up. Did you pay ANY attention yesterday? The Falcon's 3 man rush gave us problems which is freakin unbelievable. I don't know about your world but in mine 3 beating 5 is UNACCEPTABLE!

This is no criticism of Rodgers, but to say he's playing as well as Favre would be if he were still here is just plain DUMB and the FACTS (not your opinion) prove it! Yes, in time Rodgers will gain the needed experience and may very well be a good QB. However, right now he holds the ball to long and does not sense back side pressure very well.

It's the same shit around here, nothing but excuses that don't support the facts. We're 2-3 and our sacks are up and run game is in-consistent. Rodgers is getting beaten like a pinada yet the same guys wanna tell us how our line is improving.

Um, for those of you who don't know it, we were beaten at HOME by a team many considered to be bottom feeders in the NFL. A team who by all accounts and FACTS has been horrible on the road. A team with a rookie QB who was'nt even TOUCHED all day. Yesterday was a freakin DISGRACE.

Now the same guys who ripped Sherman when the injury bug decimated his team are making excuses for Thompson. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Wake up and smell the coffee! No depth and we are just about the weakest team in the NFL on the interior of both our lines. Newsflash for the clowns- the middle is where most games are won or lost.............