Were we all fooled?

[Gunakor]

It's not TT's fault that this team isn't producing. TT brings in talent and potential. It is MM's responsibility to get these guys prepared and conditioned and ready to play. Once the season starts, TT has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs. He is not a coach. He is not a gameplanner or a play caller. He puts together a roster, and that's all. The guys on our roster are extremely talented. It is MM's responsibility to draw out that talent and turn it into production. That hasn't happened, and it isn't TT's fault.

so if TT just brings in shit O/D lineman and says here ya go MM, get the job done... its MM's fault? haha what a joke... TT should look in the mirror in the morning and be disgusted as a GM with that pathetic O/D line he runs out there every week...


ya know why MM doesnt shake it up? because thats the best shit we can put on the field... sad isnt it?

Okay, here's where we get to the question I've been waiting for an appropriate time to ask...

What makes you a better evaluator of TALENT (not production) than TT? You don't see them in practice. You haven't seen them in college. You don't know thier skill sets, or talent level, or anything else other than what you see on gameday. You don't know more than those who are actually in charge of making decisions. Who are you to say they are shit OL/DL? If you really think you know more about evaluating talent than TT and think you could right this ship, then get to work on a resume and overnight it to 1265 Lombardi Ave.

By the way, I still haven't seen examples of what you'd do to fix this situation. Which leads me to believe that you don't understand the business side of things, or that you just don't have a clue what you are talking about overall.

[Pacopete4]

It's not TT's fault that this team isn't producing. TT brings in talent and potential. It is MM's responsibility to get these guys prepared and conditioned and ready to play. Once the season starts, TT has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs. He is not a coach. He is not a gameplanner or a play caller. He puts together a roster, and that's all. The guys on our roster are extremely talented. It is MM's responsibility to draw out that talent and turn it into production. That hasn't happened, and it isn't TT's fault.

so if TT just brings in shit O/D lineman and says here ya go MM, get the job done... its MM's fault? haha what a joke... TT should look in the mirror in the morning and be disgusted as a GM with that pathetic O/D line he runs out there every week...


ya know why MM doesnt shake it up? because thats the best shit we can put on the field... sad isnt it?

Okay, here's where we get to the question I've been waiting for an appropriate time to ask...

What makes you a better evaluator of TALENT (not production) than TT? You don't see them in practice. You haven't seen them in college. You don't know thier skill sets, or talent level, or anything else other than what you see on gameday. You don't know more than those who are actually in charge of making decisions. Who are you to say they are shit OL/DL? If you really think you know more about evaluating talent than TT and think you could right this ship, then get to work on a resume and overnight it to 1265 Lombardi Ave.

By the way, I still haven't seen examples of what you'd do to fix this situation. Which leads me to believe that you don't understand the business side of things, or that you just don't have a clue what you are talking about overall.

and once again.. ITS NOT MY JOB! and how can I tell... thats a stupid question.. just watch a game.. thats how u can tell... pretty simple

[Bossman641]

It's not TT's fault that this team isn't producing. TT brings in talent and potential. It is MM's responsibility to get these guys prepared and conditioned and ready to play. Once the season starts, TT has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs. He is not a coach. He is not a gameplanner or a play caller. He puts together a roster, and that's all. The guys on our roster are extremely talented. It is MM's responsibility to draw out that talent and turn it into production. That hasn't happened, and it isn't TT's fault.

so if TT just brings in shit O/D lineman and says here ya go MM, get the job done... its MM's fault? haha what a joke... TT should look in the mirror in the morning and be disgusted as a GM with that pathetic O/D line he runs out there every week...


ya know why MM doesnt shake it up? because thats the best shit we can put on the field... sad isnt it?

Okay, here's where we get to the question I've been waiting for an appropriate time to ask...

What makes you a better evaluator of TALENT (not production) than TT? You don't see them in practice. You haven't seen them in college. You don't know thier skill sets, or talent level, or anything else other than what you see on gameday. You don't know more than those who are actually in charge of making decisions. Who are you to say they are shit OL/DL? If you really think you know more about evaluating talent than TT and think you could right this ship, then get to work on a resume and overnight it to 1265 Lombardi Ave.

By the way, I still haven't seen examples of what you'd do to fix this situation. Which leads me to believe that you don't understand the business side of things, or that you just don't have a clue what you are talking about overall.

There's your answer

[arcilite]

I wasn't fooled.

I love TT.

I love Aaron Rodgers.

We are only 5 games into the season, things can be turned around.

Nobody saw us getting the injury bug, no need to abandon on a ship that has been sailing a good course the last few years (4-12, 8-8, 13-3).

[Gunakor]

It's not TT's fault that this team isn't producing. TT brings in talent and potential. It is MM's responsibility to get these guys prepared and conditioned and ready to play. Once the season starts, TT has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the team performs. He is not a coach. He is not a gameplanner or a play caller. He puts together a roster, and that's all. The guys on our roster are extremely talented. It is MM's responsibility to draw out that talent and turn it into production. That hasn't happened, and it isn't TT's fault.

so if TT just brings in shit O/D lineman and says here ya go MM, get the job done... its MM's fault? haha what a joke... TT should look in the mirror in the morning and be disgusted as a GM with that pathetic O/D line he runs out there every week...


ya know why MM doesnt shake it up? because thats the best shit we can put on the field... sad isnt it?

Okay, here's where we get to the question I've been waiting for an appropriate time to ask...

What makes you a better evaluator of TALENT (not production) than TT? You don't see them in practice. You haven't seen them in college. You don't know thier skill sets, or talent level, or anything else other than what you see on gameday. You don't know more than those who are actually in charge of making decisions. Who are you to say they are shit OL/DL? If you really think you know more about evaluating talent than TT and think you could right this ship, then get to work on a resume and overnight it to 1265 Lombardi Ave.

By the way, I still haven't seen examples of what you'd do to fix this situation. Which leads me to believe that you don't understand the business side of things, or that you just don't have a clue what you are talking about overall.

and once again.. ITS NOT MY JOB! and how can I tell... thats a stupid question.. just watch a game.. thats how u can tell... pretty simple

Watch a game for what? You dont' even know what to look for. It's not that simple. I said evaluate TALENT. That is different than evaluating PRODUCTION. All you can see from watching a game is production. Production has as much to do with preparation as it does talent, and preparation - once again - is MM's responsibility.

Even by evaluating production, who on the line are you saying is playing the worst right now? It's not a TT draft pick. It's not a TT FA signing. TT has nothing at all to do with it. Why? Because it's CHAD FUCKING CLIFTON. Blame Sherman if you have to blame a GM for lack of production. Still wrong, but if you absolutely HAVE to blame a GM, that's who to point the finger at. The interior line brought in by TT is not the issue right now. Why can't you grasp that? Why?

[Pacopete4]

when we dont get in the playoffs, and we maaaaaybe get 8 wins.. i'll come back to you on how much u like TT..

[Gunakor]

when we dont get in the playoffs, and we maaaaaybe get 8 wins.. i'll come back to you on how much u like TT..

Lemme ask you, did you say the same thing in August of last year? Yeah, thought so.

The rosters are basically the same, with the exception of one iconic starter at a position whose production hasn't changed a whole lot. Why then were they so terrific last year but they are bums this year? The talent level is the same... it's the PRODUCTION that went down. And that one can't be put on TT.

Nevermind. I'm through with this. I can't help you if you are ignorant by choice.

[Pacopete4]

when we dont get in the playoffs, and we maaaaaybe get 8 wins.. i'll come back to you on how much u like TT..

Lemme ask you, did you say the same thing in August of last year? Yeah, thought so. Nevermind. I'm through with this. I can't help you if you are ignorant by choice.

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

[Gunakor]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

[Pacopete4]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

10 wins... and more than likely that is what the team was talent wise.. a 10 win team... luck and good fortune played a lot into 13 wins

[Gunakor]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

10 wins... and more than likely that is what the team was talent wise.. a 10 win team... luck and good fortune played a lot into 13 wins

Injuries. Bad luck and bad fortune play alot into 2-3 right now. It goes both ways Paco.

[Pacopete4]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

10 wins... and more than likely that is what the team was talent wise.. a 10 win team... luck and good fortune played a lot into 13 wins

Injuries. Bad luck and bad fortune play alot into 2-3 right now. It goes both ways Paco.

or we're just awful on both sides of the line... thats more of the answer

[Gunakor]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

10 wins... and more than likely that is what the team was talent wise.. a 10 win team... luck and good fortune played a lot into 13 wins

Injuries. Bad luck and bad fortune play alot into 2-3 right now. It goes both ways Paco.

or we're just awful on both sides of the line... thats more of the answer

Basically the same OL and DL we had last season Paco - how do you explain that without mentioning penalties or injuries?

[Pacopete4]

dp

[Pacopete4]

I predicted 9 wins this season... its not like im jumping off a roof or something here

Last season. The season we went 13-3. What did you predict before THAT season began? I'll bet you were mighty suprised by the result.

10 wins... and more than likely that is what the team was talent wise.. a 10 win team... luck and good fortune played a lot into 13 wins

Injuries. Bad luck and bad fortune play alot into 2-3 right now. It goes both ways Paco.

dline wasnt that good last season no matter what u say

oline was helped by a certain player whos name cannot be said aloud

or we're just awful on both sides of the line... thats more of the answer

Basically the same OL and DL we had last season Paco - how do you explain that without mentioning penalties or injuries?

dline stunk last season mainly too..

oline was helped by a former player whos name cannot be mentioned