Greg Jennings, top tier WR?

[Guiness]

I don't know TB - lot of guys on that list I wouldn't dream of swapping Jennings for.

So many things to look at here. If we're talking about whether or not Jennings is an elite receiver, we also have to talk about where that puts DD - because there have been a lot of discussions, and many felt DD is still our #1 guy - at least going into this season. Has that changed?

As an overall package, I don't think there are many guys in the league I'd rather have than Jennings. Some of the guys I'd put in the elite tier have been around for a while, so age matters, and you're talking about a limited amount of time they'll remain effective for.

My elite list would be TO and R. Moss, Harrison, Chad Johnson (who really isn't any more) and Steve Smith who are all over 30. Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson and Colston who are close in age to Jennings.

My feelings are that I'd rather have any of the second group then Jennings. I'd rather have 3 or 4 of the first group for this year, but not if we were talking long term.

There's a whole mess of guys a stutter step behing this crew, like Buress, Wayne, Welker, S. Moss, etc...pretty much every team's #1 WR. But I don't think we're talking about them.

There is one special case out there, and that would be Calvin Johnson. I don't consider him elite, or even second tier with Jennings yet, but there's that potential, with a capital P.

edit: Steve Smith is 29...

[Scott Campbell]

Top tier - at least until his production drops off.

[oregonpackfan]

Sunday's TD catch against Seattle highlighted one of Jennings' talents--his ability to catch passes in traffic. Truffant actually had pretty good coverage on that play. Jennings, however, went up and brought that ball down for a score.

The catch was special to watch because I was sitting on that side of the field at Qwest. The pass was a pinpoint spiral from "sore-shouldered" Rodgers.

If you recall, the score at the time was 10-10 with the Seahawks fans quite loud through the first half. With that magnificent pass and catch for the score, the Seahawks fans were quiet the rest of the game.

It was the turning point of the game, IMO.

[bobblehead]

With his age and his personality/work ethic, there is no other WR in the league I would trade him for.

Andre Johnson would be a push.

I would take Larry Fitzgerald over him any day. The catches he made against the Boys were incredible.

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

I know that must have killed you to write that.

Nah, I agree with you most of the time on football matters...makes me wonder how you ever came to your political views.

And I was half joking with the number 8...Sometimes I do that...it aggravates hoosier to no end (87% :P) In my mind its obvious I'm joking, but in type people miss it. I don't think you can put a # on tier 1 guys...it would simply be the best in the league that there is a noticeable difference after. It can very by decade. Rice was tier 1 in his era....everyone else was tier 2. Jennings may be tier 1, but again, let me see him actually put together 2-3 seasons comparable to say....chris chambers before we put them in the same category. I said the same thing about ryan grant if you wanna dig up that thread. Sometimes guys can look great for spurts, but to date jennings hasn't played 16 games in a season.

edit: it can even vary by decade before the spelling nazis get me.

[run pMc]

Some of Ty's comments are on point. There several WR's I'd take over GJ, but he's been an important playmaker...which is saying something. I don't think he's in the same class as TO, Moss, Fitzgerald, Ocho, Plex, etc., but I think he's comparable to Steve Smith...not a big WR but has runs decent routes with good hands & quickness. IMO he's replaced DD as the #1 WR.

I'd like to see TT lock him up long term.

He's a very good WR who might become an elite WR. He has an outside shot at making the Pro Bowl as an alternate.

[Tony Oday]

I would only take Andre, Fitz or Wayne.

There are then players like Moss, TO, Ocho and Housh but I wouldnt want them on my team!

[Partial]

Cad Johnson is the most over rated receiver in the league these days.

[bobblehead]

Jennings:

2006 Green Bay 14 45 632 45.1 14.0 75 6.2 30 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 5 29 5.8 10 0 1 0
2007 Green Bay 13 53 920 70.8 17.4 82 7.4 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
2008 Green Bay 6 34 653 108.8 19.2 62 6.6 23 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Career 33 132 2205 66.8 16.7 82 6.8 90 19 0 0 0.0 0 0 5 29 5.8 10 0 2 0

Fitzgerald:


2004 Arizona 16 58 780 48.8 13.4 48 3.3 36 8 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0
2005 Arizona 16 103 1409 88.1 13.7 47 3.7 67 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 Arizona 13 69 946 72.8 13.7 57 3.2 52 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 Arizona 15 100 1409 93.9 14.1 48 3.0 69 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3
2008 Arizona 6 36 546 91.0 15.2 75 5.7 27 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Career 66 366 5090 77.1 13.9 75 3.5 251 39 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 4 3

Boldin:

2003 Arizona 16 101 1377 86.1 13.6 71 5.7 62 8 0 0 0.0 0 0 20 130 6.5 19 0 2 2
2004 Arizona 10 56 623 62.3 11.1 31 3.0 32 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1
2005 Arizona 14 102 1402 100.1 13.7 54 5.3 68 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
2006 Arizona 16 83 1203 75.2 14.5 64 6.1 53 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
2007 Arizona 12 71 853 71.1 12.0 44 5.2 43 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
2008 Arizona 4 27 366 91.5 13.6 79 7.1 20 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
Career 72 440 5824 80.9 13.2 79 5.3 278 34 0 0 0.0 0 0 20 130 6.5 19 0 9 6



Shouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?

[DonHutson]

Would you like Jennings to be 6'4 and 230 pounds with blazing speed? I suppose, but isn't the bigger issue plain old ability to get the job done?

He gets it done. Period.

It's clutch time? Do or die? No problem. The higher the stakes, the bigger he plays.

In fact, none of the bigger guys have the open field moves of Jennings. Guys like Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison, and Reggie Wayne aren't the prototype either. Who cares? Get them the ball and they deliver.

Drew Brees is 6'0 standing on a phone book. Did that hurt him in the draft? Yes. Is it hurting him in the NFL? Not much. He gets it done.

So where does Jennings rank? Right up there in the top tier with Moss, Owens, Wayne, Fitzgerald, Marshall, Andre Johnson, and Steve Smith.

[sharpe1027]

As good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.

There was this one WR, I think he played for a west coast team...Maybe the 49ers. He wasn't very tall or overly fast, but I think he was pretty good.

You can have your size, speed and a couple spectacular catches, you'll end up with the Detroit Lions' roster. I'll take the production.

I do agree that we need to let him finish a couple years at his current level before we put him in the HoF.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?

Not really. It's not about who has had a better career. It's about who is better RIGHT NOW. I'd put a handful of guys in tier one (Owens, Moss, Fitzgerald, Marshall, A. Johnson, Wayne). I'd put Jennings with a big group of WRs in tier 2.

[packers11]

If Jennings isn't a "top WR" according to some of you... Why is he blowing everyone out in yards???

PLEASE DONT SAY "Rodgers makes him better than he really is"

[Patler]

If Jennings isn't a "top WR" according to some of you... Why is he blowing everyone out in yards???

PLEASE DONT SAY "Rodgers makes him better than he really is"

But is Rodgers making him better than Favre did? (Patler ducks for cover!!!)

[cheesner]

Jennings is top tier.

To say he isn't because of his physical measureables, is not fair. Marvin Harrison and steve Smith did not fit the TO/Moss mold and they were top tier at one time.

Right now I would put the top tier as:

Fitz, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Jennings, Moss, Braylon Edwards, and TO.

I would prefer a big fast reciever like Fitz or CJ, but it isn't necessary when you are getting as good of production out of a smaller guy.

[Bossman641]

Jennings is top tier.

To say he isn't because of his physical measureables, is not fair. Marvin Harrison and steve Smith did not fit the TO/Moss mold and they were top tier at one time.

Right now I would put the top tier as:

Fitz, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Jennings, Moss, Braylon Edwards, and TO.

I would prefer a big fast reciever like Fitz or CJ, but it isn't necessary when you are getting as good of production out of a smaller guy.

The problem is when people think of dominating, top tier WR's they think of guys like TO and Braylon - tall, fast, physical WR's who can go up and get the ball. Jennings doesn't meet the prototype, but he is still top tier.

I agree with your list, except I'd drop Calvin Johnson and add Brandon Marshall and Reggie Wayne. Boldin is another guy that I would put probably just below the top tier. He was killing before he got injured.