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But it depends,
It depends on what you define a top tier reciver as. Because there are few complete recievers. I dont watch enough film to say who.
And it also depends what your basing it on... If you say production this year then Fitz and Jennings would be 1-2.
Andre Johnson and Boldin should also be up their...
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sorry to confuse...that was merely my opinion. I don't think its not possible for him to become tier one, but my opinion is that he will stay just shy.Originally posted by sharpe1027There was this one WR, I think he played for a west coast team...Maybe the 49ers. He wasn't very tall or overly fast, but I think he was pretty good.Originally posted by bobbleheadAs good as he has been, Jennings isn't 6'3" tall and that will keep him just a tad under the top guys. What he does he does well, but ty is right...he is no Fitzgerald.
You can have your size, speed and a couple spectacular catches, you'll end up with the Detroit Lions' roster. I'll take the production.
I do agree that we need to let him finish a couple years at his current level before we put him in the HoF.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Reggie Brown certainly has been a 2nd tier. Remember who was tossing the ball and their health issues. Remember they have more receivers and toss the ball their rbs more than us. You can't penalize a guy because of the system they play in.Originally posted by Bossman641Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsBossman,
Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.
I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.
Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.
Let's get serious Ty.
But, if you dont' want to put him there..then, how on earth can you put jennings based on his past production. 45 and 53 receptions. No 1000 yards. Yes, he did have 12 tds last year.
Brown had 46 and 61 receptions. He had 8 tds in his best year and 17.7 ypc. Which pretty much mirrors Jennings..cept for 4 less tds.
Bruce: Yeah, i guess having JT toss you the ball wouldn't affect you. But, I guess Bruce having essentially the same ypc, as many tds with far less receptions and having a longer td reception wouldn't count. Or the fact that he is the #1 receiver on the Niners.
As for his past..you dont' know what you are talking about. I guess 55 receptions and 74 the previous year really puts him outside the second tier...with a new system/coach and team that is falling apart.
You are like most packer fans..you overrate your own players while underrating the rest of the league.
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Maybe its you who is the typical over thinker of your own team. You feel "smarter" because you talk down about players that obvious homers are in love with. I'd take Jennings any day over Reggie Brown and Isaac Bruce. Not Bruce circa 1999, but Bruce today.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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damn internet crashed and wiped out a long response.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersNot really. It's not about who has had a better career. It's about who is better RIGHT NOW. I'd put a handful of guys in tier one (Owens, Moss, Fitzgerald, Marshall, A. Johnson, Wayne). I'd put Jennings with a big group of WRs in tier 2.Originally posted by bobbleheadShouldn't we let Jennings actually complete a 1000 yard season before we have this discussion?
Ok,you convinced me...jennings is leading the league in yards right now so he is the best. Grant is second best RB cuz he put together an 8 game run at the end of last season.
I'm not saying he can't become that guy or anything like that, but honestly fitz has TWO 1400 yard seasons with shitty QB's....you really wanna tell me jennings belongs in his class?? Has a defense actually gameplanned to stop jennings yet?? He may become the best in the business...he may become a very good pro (already is). But right here right now....he doesn't belong in the same breath as fitz/TO/moss/BoldinThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I said i love Jennings. I put him in the second tier.Originally posted by ZoolMaybe its you who is the typical over thinker of your own team. You feel "smarter" because you talk down about players that obvious homers are in love with. I'd take Jennings any day over Reggie Brown and Isaac Bruce. Not Bruce circa 1999, but Bruce today.
I didn't say i'm smarter, i'm just more objective. Just like when the talk was that we had the deepest WR core in the NFL. That is just plain ridiculous.
You are welcome to your opinion.
But, the facts are the facts. Bruce's #s are comparable to jennings..with a far worse team and JT throwing the ball. Put bruce with Favre or Arod. I think we see the same results.
Brown: Again, different system. Different role.
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I don't overrate players, I look at it fairly. I am 100% positive you wouldn't find a single GM in the league willing to give up Jennings for Reggie Brown.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsReggie Brown certainly has been a 2nd tier. Remember who was tossing the ball and their health issues. Remember they have more receivers and toss the ball their rbs more than us. You can't penalize a guy because of the system they play in.Originally posted by Bossman641Reggie Brown hasn't been a top or even second tier WR. Isaac Bruce? He of 303 yards and 4 TD's? He was a top WR about 8 years ago.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsBossman,
Brown has been injured...but, he has 10 catches for 163 yards...that is in 2 games.
I coulda added others. Have you looked at Bruce's numbers. Considering who is tossing him the ball...19 yard average and 5 tds.
Should i put DeSean Jackson up as well. Or Kevin Curtis.
Let's get serious Ty.
But, if you dont' want to put him there..then, how on earth can you put jennings based on his past production. 45 and 53 receptions. No 1000 yards. Yes, he did have 12 tds last year.
Brown had 46 and 61 receptions. He had 8 tds in his best year and 17.7 ypc. Which pretty much mirrors Jennings..cept for 4 less tds.
Bruce: Yeah, i guess having JT toss you the ball wouldn't affect you. But, I guess Bruce having essentially the same ypc, as many tds with far less receptions and having a longer td reception wouldn't count. Or the fact that he is the #1 receiver on the Niners.
As for his past..you dont' know what you are talking about. I guess 55 receptions and 74 the previous year really puts him outside the second tier...with a new system/coach and team that is falling apart.
You are like most packer fans..you overrate your own players while underrating the rest of the league.
You point to Reggie Brown and say his numbers aren't as good cause of Westbrook. It works the opposite way as well. D coordinators spend so much time worrying about Westbrook that Brown gets plenty of chances. He simply isn't that good. He disappears for stretches.
I like how you conveniently left out how Brown got his 416 rec, 816 yards, and 8 TD's in 16 (15 started) games while Jennings got his 53 rec, 920 yards, and 12 TD in 13 games.
Bruce is a decent player, but he is nowhere near Jennings anymore. He isn't as capable of breaking the big play and isn't as big a TD threat (4 in 08, 4 in 07, 3 in 06, 3 in 05, 6 in 04) as Jennings is. BTW, Bruce's long rec on the year is 63 yards, Jennings is 62. That's your proof?Go PACK
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Damn...I'd say top tier.Originally posted by PartialI would take...
Calvin Johnson
TO
Randy Moss
Larry Fitz
over him
Bitch made antics aside Owens is a better by a bit yet talent wise. Randy is slipping this year, Ocho Cinco is Puto Chicata, and Fitz is damn good as I'll give him a pass being a more talented (physical skills) WR, yet what the hell has Calvin done other than drop balls?
Jennings NEVER gets caught despite his knock on speed coming out. He's a football speed burner and leaves NOTHING on the table. He a Hungry Man and cleans up the scraps. Wouldn't fight him for biscuit fo sho!
Who would I trade Jennings for?? Prob. no one as Fitz is a push and Randy is getting old, and TO is way old. As far as talent now...only Fitz and TO are better IMHO.
Show the man his money as it'll take at least 5 years and 50 now with that loser Roy Williams getting 5 and 45..WTF has he done with Det? Cowgirls got faahhhhhh-llleeeeeeced!
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