With Al Harris coming back do we start T-Will till he's 100%

[Harlan Huckleby]

I like Al Harris a lot. He's played well for a long time.

you know any post that starts this way is gonna be a burner.

His injury was a blessing in disguise for the Packers.

ouch

I really don't want to see him on the field except to play dime against the outside receiver

poor Al - burned again.

[Tony Oday]

I think it doesnt matter who the starter is it seems like most teams run a 3 WR set all the time anyway!

[mraynrand]

Re: With Al Harris coming back do we start T-Will till he's

When was T-Will asked to shut down an Owens or Plax mostly by himself?

Until he does, I don't think it is fair to compare how Harris faired against those guys to how T-Will has played so far.

Oy! First, Al Harris completely failed against TO at least three times - in 2004 at Philly last year and this year against Dallas and we know what happened in last year's NFCCG. He didn't do so well in week two either. The Packers learned their lesson - Woodson will match up man on the other team's best receiver (like Reggie Wayne). Harris will never be asked to do that again, even against a guy he's dominated, like Roy Williams, because teams have figured out how to neutralize Harris. The Packers probably will not Ask Williams to line up against the other team's best receiver either, so it's unlikely that a direct comparison will happen. If it does, I'm confident Williams will fare better.

[boiga]

I think that Al's place in the backfield is going to depend more on matchups than scheme. There are some receivers that Al consistently shut down in a way that is unreal. Bernard Berrian, Roy Williams etc. These guys always had their worst games of the season against Al, so why change what works for you?

Any time we play up against a skinny long legged speedster, we need Harris to be the guy taking him out of the play at the line of scrimmage. He's still the best bump and run corner we have. If he needs safety help to cover a Calvin Johnson, give it to him, but there is still no one better at press coverage.

[GoPackGo]

Have Harris play nickel for a game or two, until he gets back into football shape. Then, if he looks alright, make him the starter. T-Will will still be on the field plenty.

I agree with this

[sheepshead]

coaches game time decision. We dont have enough information.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I only voted T-will until Al is 100% because I don't think Al needs to come back until he IS 100%.

If he's 100% after the bye against the titans there is no way, absolutely no way, we can not start Al. Not to mention, Al and Atari's physical presence would go a long way against the most physical team in football, the Tennessee Titans.

disclaimer: I am no Titan fan there is only one team for me, I call it how I see it.

[bobblehead]

Rand...you know politics, but you are off your rocker. Al Harris is a big time stud and should have been a multiple pro-bowler. Al is still a shutdown corner.

The only reason he has struggled with TO is the head games....he gets too emotional and tries to hard instead of doing what he does. Burress....ridiculous pass and catch multiple times...al was all over him most of that game. (which is why they didn't double, no one believed they could keep up perfect accuracy and fingertip catches)

[mraynrand]

Rand...you know politics, but you are off your rocker. Al Harris is a big time stud and should have been a multiple pro-bowler. Al is still a shutdown corner.

The only reason he has struggled with TO is the head games....he gets too emotional and tries to hard instead of doing what he does. Burress....ridiculous pass and catch multiple times...al was all over him most of that game. (which is why they didn't double, no one believed they could keep up perfect accuracy and fingertip catches)

I'll stand by my analysis. I think he's on his way out. 1) Teams have him figured out - they can motion him into bad coverage, 2) when he plays zone, he's awful, 3) He has really lost a full step, maybe two. If he doesn't get his hands on the WR, he's finished.

I hope I'm wrong.

[bobblehead]

Rand...you know politics, but you are off your rocker. Al Harris is a big time stud and should have been a multiple pro-bowler. Al is still a shutdown corner.

The only reason he has struggled with TO is the head games....he gets too emotional and tries to hard instead of doing what he does. Burress....ridiculous pass and catch multiple times...al was all over him most of that game. (which is why they didn't double, no one believed they could keep up perfect accuracy and fingertip catches)

I'll stand by my analysis. I think he's on his way out. 1) Teams have him figured out - they can motion him into bad coverage, 2) when he plays zone, he's awful, 3) He has really lost a full step, maybe two. If he doesn't get his hands on the WR, he's finished.

I hope I'm wrong.

well...i have to grant you that he is 34 and has lost a step, but i still believe he is near the top...how long that lasts is another issue. I think for THIS season he is still a stud and teams have not figured him out....unless you mean that they have figured out its a loss of down to pass at him.

[Guiness]

in case anyone hasn't mentioned it yet...

THIS IS A GOOD FUCKING PROBLEM TO HAVE!

[mraynrand]

in case anyone hasn't mentioned it yet...

THIS IS A GOOD FUCKING PROBLEM TO HAVE!

I don't know about that, but I can tell you a bad fucking problem to have: scabies - at least according to Partial.

[SnakeLH2006]

Rand...you know politics, but you are off your rocker. Al Harris is a big time stud and should have been a multiple pro-bowler. Al is still a shutdown corner.

The only reason he has struggled with TO is the head games....he gets too emotional and tries to hard instead of doing what he does. Burress....ridiculous pass and catch multiple times...al was all over him most of that game. (which is why they didn't double, no one believed they could keep up perfect accuracy and fingertip catches)

I'll stand by my analysis. I think he's on his way out. 1) Teams have him figured out - they can motion him into bad coverage, 2) when he plays zone, he's awful, 3) He has really lost a full step, maybe two. If he doesn't get his hands on the WR, he's finished.

I hope I'm wrong.

I agree it's 13-10 for T-Will...not saying he's better healthy...but AL is old, T-Will has shown he CAN handle playing the CB spot as the 2 option and done very damn well.... Al is slow and doesn't make ANY plays EVER in the INT game ya fucking EVER. At least we found a capable replacement as we have to find "2" guys in the next 2 years or so...At least Wood is playing at an All-Pro level thus far at 31. There's no way I would give Al the greenlight to start until he "proves" he's better than T-Will on many fronts......ain't gonna happen right now. I'm surprised, as are most, but T-Will owns Al and his ego till he's healthy and maybe here on out. IMO Al's done as a starter and even NFL player after 1 more year.

[bobblehead]

All that is true...next year it should be a wide open competition and may the winner make the pro-bowl.

If Al comes back and then struggles as the starter I wouldn't have a problem handing it back to TWill...but if Al shuts guys down, which he always has, I'll take the lack of picks and let him finish this season as the starter. I'll put money on him shutting down Buress if we play the Giants this post-season...that was the best game plax ever played. As my grandma used to say "sometimes you catch the bull on the wrong day"...not sure what that means, but she used it like it would apply to the Harris-Burress day.

[mraynrand]

All that is true...next year it should be a wide open competition and may the winner make the pro-bowl.

If Al comes back and then struggles as the starter I wouldn't have a problem handing it back to TWill...but if Al shuts guys down, which he always has, I'll take the lack of picks and let him finish this season as the starter. I'll put money on him shutting down Buress if we play the Giants this post-season...that was the best game plax ever played. As my grandma used to say "sometimes you catch the bull on the wrong day"...not sure what that means, but she used it like it would apply to the Harris-Burress day.

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