KGB

[bobblehead]

I hate to bring this thread down with more of the same garbage abotu the same pampered brat, but it's amazing how a long serving player can go out iwth class and dignity when their head isn't so big that they think everything is owed to them. Really, this was refreshing and a very good example of what we come to expect from great guys and great teammates. Unfortunately, not every guy in the lockerroom is and sometimes we think we know a person and they are completely different. True colors show in times like these. Brett Favre really stained his legacy as a great teammate and every Packer taht goes out with class reminds me of what a POS Brett Favre is.

JH- I like some of your posts, but by not just letting it go you are showing the same lack of class you despise in BF. Drop it, he is a jet, move on. Be the bigger man just like KGB was here, then I will regain the immense respect I had for your posts before BF tried his "comeback".

[bobblehead]

OK, that being said....I'm going to miss KGB, but his play obviously didn't get back to his preinjury effect. Speed rushers are huge in "mop up" time as they make it really hard to come back on a team...tex, I think of KGB(and hopefully Hunter next) more like a closer....they are dominant on 3rd and 7, and late in a game with a 4 point lead.

I hope this is a statement as much about Hunter as it is about KGB cuz we need that specialist. Pettway must be strong on ST...does this make Jarret Bush expendable??

[mraynrand]

Pettway must be strong on ST...does this make Jarret Bush expendable??

Not yet. They do different things on teams. Bush is the gunner. If you watch that guy, it's really fun - especially at the game where you can see him dominate on teams. Guys cannot block him. Reminds me of Marcus Wilson - rarely saw the field, but really contributed to special teams. Bush will go if the Packers have a glut at d-back, and I don't see that happening just yet with Harris at 34.

[SnakeLH2006]

I hate to bring this thread down with more of the same garbage abotu the same pampered brat, but it's amazing how a long serving player can go out iwth class and dignity when their head isn't so big that they think everything is owed to them. Really, this was refreshing and a very good example of what we come to expect from great guys and great teammates. Unfortunately, not every guy in the lockerroom is and sometimes we think we know a person and they are completely different. True colors show in times like these. Brett Favre really stained his legacy as a great teammate and every Packer taht goes out with class reminds me of what a POS Brett Favre is.

JH- I like some of your posts, but by not just letting it go you are showing the same lack of class you despise in BF. Drop it, he is a jet, move on. Be the bigger man just like KGB was here, then I will regain the immense respect I had for your posts before BF tried his "comeback".

QFT. Who is the bitter one, eh, JH?

Anyway, good luck KGB...always liked ya and am kinda surprised by this move. Without 2008 cap figures yet, did this have something to do with extending ARod and maybe going after Jennings or others this year?

Regardless too bad, KGB couldn't stop a run if they called out the play, but was still our #2 pass rusher, bum knee and all. Hope someone steps up.

[Tarlam!]

What Lurker said. KGB, all the best to you and yours! Thanks for all the sacks, QB hurries and tackles. You are all class and I hope you wind up with the Packers in some other capacity. You deserve it, and as a fan, it would enrich my Packer experience knowing you were around to put your special stamp on my favourite team.

[SnakeLH2006]

What Lurker said. KGB, all the best to you and yours! Thanks for all the sacks, QB hurries and tackles. You are all class and I hope you wind up with the Packers in some other capacity. You deserve it, and as a fan, it would enrich my Packer experience knowing you were around to put your special stamp on my favourite team.

I agree wholeheartedly. KGB is Packer peeps. I'm sure he plays 2 more years in an undescript role, yet will be back with the recent Packer alums ala Leroy, Freeman, Santana, etc. to extend Packer cheer in one way or the other. Thanks for the good memories KGB.

[cpk1994]

i was surprised when i heard the news. wasn't surprised that somehow a Brett reference was issued. if there was a thread about some proposed new roofing material to be used on Lambeau someone would mention Brett.

I don't think his name was muttered untill the #1 hater brought it into the conversation.

Talk about an obsession.

Let it go JH, let it go.

Pot calling kettle. Come in kettle.

That said, Im suprised and probably the only one who thinks this is a dumb move as DL needs all the warm bodies it can get right now.

[MJZiggy]

Since when did Harrell move to the linebacker spot? You put the best 11 men on the field and keep the best 53 wherever possible. If the front office felt that KGB wasn't showing enough lately to justify his spot and salary, then the right thing to do is let him go. He only played third down and the one coming in can play all downs (caveat: provided he stays healthy). What are we gonna do, cut a wideout because we need bodies on the DL?

[Fritz]

Nobody predicted this that I can recall on any Packerrats thread this week. When disucussing Harrell coming back, most folks seemed to favor Bush or Pettway getting cut. So I will step up and say, sure, in hindsight I can see the logic of it, but emotionally I'm a bit surprised.

I think Patler is probably right that TT and MM were probably hoping KGB would come around as the season went on - that his knee would heal and he'd improve. However, I like to think too that TT has a bit of a heart and maybe a tiny, tiny bit of his reasoning was that KGB has been the good soldier and should be given an extra shot.

It's a logical move. I must say MM maybe foreshadowed it this week when he talked about wanting to make sure the active guys were going to include excellent special teams players. Thus, they keep Petteway and Hunter over KGB. And I'm glad that the Pack is focusing on ST. It's a part of the game that too often gets ignored.

KGB was hellacious in his prime, coming off the snap so fast and around the corner. And a class act, too. A real man.

[Bretsky]

Nobody predicted this that I can recall on any Packerrats thread this week. When disucussing Harrell coming back, most folks seemed to favor Bush or Pettway getting cut. So I will step up and say, sure, in hindsight I can see the logic of it, but emotionally I'm a bit surprised.

I think Patler is probably right that TT and MM were probably hoping KGB would come around as the season went on - that his knee would heal and he'd improve. However, I like to think too that TT has a bit of a heart and maybe a tiny, tiny bit of his reasoning was that KGB has been the good soldier and should be given an extra shot.

It's a logical move. I must say MM maybe foreshadowed it this week when he talked about wanting to make sure the active guys were going to include excellent special teams players. Thus, they keep Petteway and Hunter over KGB. And I'm glad that the Pack is focusing on ST. It's a part of the game that too often gets ignored.

KGB was hellacious in his prime, coming off the snap so fast and around the corner. And a class act, too. A real man.

TT is calculated; I'm not convinced he has much of a heart and that is part of what makes him effective

[Iron Mike]

In Soviet Russia, KGB cuts Packers.

[MJZiggy]

Not so sure, B. You hear of players that were cut and the reason for the timing of the early cut was so they'd have a chance to latch on somewhere else. I've seen interviews where he's talked about how much he hates cutting players and I gotta think this one was a hard cut to make--and if he were that cold about it, I don't know that KGB would have expressed as MUCH love as he did for the team. I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a class act, but he did have some extremely nice things to say.

[Bretsky]

Not so sure, B. You hear of players that were cut and the reason for the timing of the early cut was so they'd have a chance to latch on somewhere else. I've seen interviews where he's talked about how much he hates cutting players and I gotta think this one was a hard cut to make--and if he were that cold about it, I don't know that KGB would have expressed as MUCH love as he did for the team. I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a class act, but he did have some extremely nice things to say.

That have a chance with another team line is one everybody effectively uses

The way KGB went out is a reflection on him as a class act

[Fritz]

I think you're guilty of a bit of stereotyping here, B.

I also think thought that TT tries to put the emotions aside as much as possible when making his decisions. It doesn't mean he doesn't have a heart; it means he tries to let that play as little as possible into his calculations.


And a good thing for the Packers that this is so. GM's and owners that govern from the heart and "feelings" are guys that end up with re-treads peppering the roster and fat sal cap numbers.

[Deputy Nutz]

I wanted to kill Mike Sherman for matching the Eagles offer for KGB when he was a restricted free agent in 2003. They were going to have to send the Packers a 1st and a 3rd if I remember right, but no, Sherman gives a Kabeer an ass load of money to get 11 sacks a year and to get dominated in the run game. sherman most likely would have wasted those picks anyways.

I simply don't care if KGB told the Packers to go fuck themselves, he is no longer a Packer and what he did would be considered a good P.R move. He wants to catch on with another team, and second he probably wouldn't mind coming back to the Packers either in the front office, a coach, or in public relations.

What really makes me sad is this Packer "Hall of Famer" just got cut for Justin Harrell.

KGB was a huge presence on the defense in the locker room. I wonder if this move has a negative emotional effect in the locker room.

Out with the old, in with the new.