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  • #31
    Well, that would make sense...
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mission
      Can I bump my "MM shouldnt call the plays" thread that NO ONE replied to and laughed off as absurdity...

      ???

      Over and over again ... I'm sure it's all coincidental.
      I will say this..

      It's not like the only person running a route on that play is an RB. He's the worst case target in that situation. The Titans were defending the pass well today.

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      • #33
        hey, we lost a tough fought game against arguably the best team in the league - you could say we outplayed them most of the game but came up short in the end...this team has a lot of talent and can keep getting better, and i feel pretty confident with TT stocking the roster and MM developing it

        sort of feels like the early 90s when you knew the team was going in the right direction
        Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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        • #34
          A lot of people flaming McCarthy for playing scared today. I kind of wish he would have played a little less scared on some of those plays. With the field position I understand going for it on fourth that first time. But, if you're going to pass it run a pass play, not some gimmicky crap with Grant lining up in the backfield then going out wide. This is not Brian Westbrook. All we accomplished was to let them know it will be a pass play. What's wrong with play action there?

          The screen play at the end sucked. I'm guessing he was hoping to catch them pass rushing hard, but this is a team that doesn't blitz much and pursues well. Bad Call. But we had our chance to stop them and failed so welcome to .500 at the midpoint.

          One word for everyone who thinks that we got jobbed by the refs. Trippin'. That was very close to a PI by Chillar. The ball was high and that helped him, but he wasn't playing the ball. He didn't turn around and you can draw a penalty for screening a receivers face even if you don't hit him. The play on Jennings was not legal, but it was a beautiful defensive play. The DB closed on the receiver and used his hand that was screened to pin Jennings off arm without extending his own arm. Really tough to catch and he broke up the catch. If you don't get caught its legal and he did every thing perfectly to no get caught. Respect due.

          The MAN did not steal this one from us. We played hard and lost a close game. No whining allowed.

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          • #35
            When a screen pass works because the back slips a tackler, everyone thinks it is a great call, crossing up the defense. When it doesn't work it is dumb, too close to the vest and not, "going for it." That's just the nature of the play.

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            • #36
              we're at the halfway point of the season, and we've already lost more games then we did last year. with the exact same team minus one #4, and one over rated DT

              other then those two, we are the same team, but sucking it up

              is it injuries? we're pretty much injury free on offense, where we suck the most

              maybe there was more to favre? rodgers is putting up good numbers and is playing great, but we are not winning. did favre inspire guys to play harder, or convince his coaches to have balls?

              what the hell is it? how do you go from being one play from the super bowl to being a mediocre team in one season with almost the same team and coaches?

              i will not settle and be happy with an "almost win". an 8-8 season would me a massive let down and failure in my book after last season

              patler, whats the answer?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by red
                we're at the halfway point of the season, and we've already lost more games then we did last year. with the exact same team minus one #4, and one over rated DT

                other then those two, we are the same team, but sucking it up

                is it injuries? we're pretty much injury free on offense, where we suck the most

                maybe there was more to favre? rodgers is putting up good numbers and is playing great, but we are not winning. did favre inspire guys to play harder, or convince his coaches to have balls?

                what the hell is it? how do you go from being one play from the super bowl to being a mediocre team in one season with almost the same team and coaches?

                i will not settle and be happy with an "almost win". an 8-8 season would me a massive let down and failure in my book after last season

                patler, whats the answer?
                Good lord, man. That's the NFL! One year you play the right team at the right time, and beat them. The next year you play them when they are playing well and you don't. Last year's doormat that you trounce soundly becomes this year's contender for the playoffs (except the Lions!) Games often turn on just one or two plays. Those might be made by you or your opponent. Might be offense, defense or special teams. Games can turn on one or two calls or non-calls by the officials.

                Trying to compare one year to the next is futile, at best. Just take them as they come. The Packers actually played quite well in a lot of respects today. If they continue to play that way, there will be a lot of wins yet this season. The Bears and Vikings certainly don't appear to be positioned to run away with the division.

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                • #38
                  quit trying to be rational

                  i'm looking for reasons to lite the torches

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                  • #39
                    I agree with Patler's assessment that even though the Packers are 4-4, they are still a good performing team.

                    We all need to remember two things in considering the Packers' level of success this year:

                    1. They have a different QB than the one who has started the last 16 years in a row. Though Rodgers has made some mistakes as a first year starter, he is a VERY solid replacement for Favre.

                    2. The Packers are the youngest team in the NFL. Young players tend to make mistakes. In addition, young players need more games under their belts to develop their talents, reduce mistakes, and develop team cohesion.

                    Yes, we would all like the record to be better than 4-4. The positive outlook is that this young, inexperienced team took the team with the best NFL record into overtime on the road and almost pulled off the upset.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by red
                      quit trying to be rational

                      i'm looking for reasons to lite the torches
                      Sorry, its the only way I know how to be!

                      I tend to focus on standings more than records, and I am more concerned with how a team is playing at the end of the season than at the beginning. I've never obsessed too much over any single game, or over the record at this point in the season. I won't care if they are 9-7, 10-6 or 12-4 if they win their division. In this division, 8-8 might do it!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pacopete4
                        Originally posted by mission
                        Can I bump my "MM shouldnt call the plays" thread that NO ONE replied to and laughed off as absurdity...

                        ???

                        Over and over again ... I'm sure it's all coincidental.


                        I'm one that agrees with ya Mission... its redundant horshit week in, week out
                        And if anyone knows about(and spews) redundant horsehit, it's you.

                        Anyway, I disagree with the OP. I had no problem with the call, You don't force anything. Play the percentages and field position, so when your "D" does its job(which they didn't), you get the ball back and one more shot. What if ARod got picked off and it was returned for 6pts.? You'd be bitching to high heaven that McCarthy was too aggressive.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by red
                          quit trying to be rational

                          i'm looking for reasons to lite the torches
                          funniest post of the year...


                          Red, sometimes you're a riot! (when you're not threatening to sue! )

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            Originally posted by red
                            we're at the halfway point of the season, and we've already lost more games then we did last year. with the exact same team minus one #4, and one over rated DT

                            other then those two, we are the same team, but sucking it up

                            is it injuries? we're pretty much injury free on offense, where we suck the most

                            maybe there was more to favre? rodgers is putting up good numbers and is playing great, but we are not winning. did favre inspire guys to play harder, or convince his coaches to have balls?

                            what the hell is it? how do you go from being one play from the super bowl to being a mediocre team in one season with almost the same team and coaches?

                            i will not settle and be happy with an "almost win". an 8-8 season would me a massive let down and failure in my book after last season

                            patler, whats the answer?
                            Good lord, man. That's the NFL! One year you play the right team at the right time, and beat them. The next year you play them when they are playing well and you don't. Last year's doormat that you trounce soundly becomes this year's contender for the playoffs (except the Lions!) Games often turn on just one or two plays. Those might be made by you or your opponent. Might be offense, defense or special teams. Games can turn on one or two calls or non-calls by the officials.

                            Trying to compare one year to the next is futile, at best. Just take them as they come. The Packers actually played quite well in a lot of respects today. If they continue to play that way, there will be a lot of wins yet this season. The Bears and Vikings certainly don't appear to be positioned to run away with the division.
                            Amen!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                              GET SINGLETARY!!!!

                              I think he's needed for the Badgers.

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                              • #45
                                man, I can't believe people are bitching about play calling.

                                OK, a couple questionable calls in key situations, but not stupid.

                                The Packers had a very smart, balanced attack all day long. If they win the game in overtime, who is complaining about play calling?

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