Is Bush on his way out? (The Packer, not the Prez)

[Patler]

We all know Bush made the roster because;
1. He has been a very good ST player.
2. He provided some level of backup at both corner and safety.

Clearly he was the #last safety and the #next to last corner at the start of the year, ahead of only Pat Lee, maybe, who was struggling.

Fast forward to game 8. All the DBs are healthy. All the special teams players are back. It was noted by one of the writers that Bush did not play as much on ST as he normally does, even on the ones that he always has played on until now. No reports of any injuries to Bush

When healthy, this team has a lot of good ST players. If Lee has improved, Bush as the 10th best DB maybe more than the roster will support.

[KYPack]

Re: Is Bush on his way out? (The Packer, not the Prez)

We all know Bush made the roster because;
1. He has been a very good ST player.
2. He provided some level of backup at both corner and safety.

Clearly he was the #last safety and the #next to last corner at the start of the year, ahead of only Pat Lee, maybe, who was struggling.

Fast forward to game 8. All the DBs are healthy. All the special teams players are back. It was noted by one of the writers that Bush did not play as much on ST as he normally does, even on the ones that he always has played on until now. No reports of any injuries to Bush

When healthy, this team has a lot of good ST players. If Lee has improved, Bush as the 10th best DB maybe more than the roster will support.

Bush would have to be a prime candidate. Another guy who seems to be on the "outs" is James Jones. He seemed pissed that he was inactive for Sunday's game, espec in light of the fact Jordy Nelson was supposedly nicked up.

P, do you have the inactive list from Sunday's game?

I couldn't locate it in the Box's that were published post game.

[Fritz]

But of course you have to have someone in the wings whom you see as better or at least having better long term potential. I'm not seeing that person anywhere at the moment.

[KYPack]

But of course you have to have someone in the wings whom you see as better or at least having better long term potential. I'm not seeing that person anywhere at the moment.

Pat Lee?

Found Sunday's inactives:

QB Brian Brohm (third QB)
CB Pat Lee
RB DeShawn Wynn
LB Desmond Bishop
LB Danny Lansanah
T Breno Giacomini
G Allen Barbre
WR James Jones


Looking at this, DeShawn Wynn could also be a bubble candidate.

[Patler]

But of course you have to have someone in the wings whom you see as better or at least having better long term potential. I'm not seeing that person anywhere at the moment.

Could be at a different position though. Carrying 10 DBs is more than usual, unless the 10th is a special guy as a returner, ST player or such. Bush may be losing that designation.

Could even be a guy on the Practice Squad, like Swain or Porter, that they want to see more of. Swain was thought of as a return guy with some potential. If Jordy Nelson is the #3 receiver, maybe they would just as soon not have him returning kicks in the second half of his rookie year, when some rookies burn out anyway. Dumping the 10th DB for a 6th WR is not an unreasonable move.

[Patler]

But of course you have to have someone in the wings whom you see as better or at least having better long term potential. I'm not seeing that person anywhere at the moment.

Pat Lee?

Found Sunday's inactives:

QB Brian Brohm (third QB)
CB Pat Lee
RB DeShawn Wynn
LB Desmond Bishop
LB Danny Lansanah
T Breno Giacomini
G Allen Barbre
WR James Jones


Looking at this, DeShawn Wynn could also be a bubble candidate.

Since they have only 3 RBs, I don't see Wynn in much trouble, unless a better back is available.
Lee has been inactive for many games, but that could be because they felt they needed Bush on ST. If that is no longer the case, maybe Lee has passed Bush as a DB. We can hope so anyway!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Who said Bush was on fewer STs?
Which STs was he on that he's no longer on?

I saw him on ST yesterday. He even made a good play on one of them. It told me a lot when Tracy White said he was the best STs player on the team. I'd like to have some proof that they aren't as high on him on STs. It's not like you only need a few good special teams players.

[Partial]

Bush is the guy that got the hand on the punt. The special teams unit hasn't forced turnovers this year, and Bush is imo the best at doing so. Keep him around.

[Patler]

Who said Bush wasn't on fewer STs?
Which STs was he on that he's no longer on?

I saw him on ST yesterday. He even made a good play on one of them. It told me a lot when Tracy White said he was the best STs player on the team. I'd like to have some proof that they aren't as high on him on STs. It's not like you only need a few good special teams players.

One of the writers this morning wrote that he didn't play on all the STs that he normally did all the time. (I will look for it) I took it to mean that he played some, but not all that he has in the past. ( For example, some punts, but not all of them maybe?) I didn't read it to be that he was off any one special team completely, just that he didn't play all of the snaps for that ST. Maybe it was an audition for others???

[HarveyWallbangers]

One of the writers this morning wrote that he didn't play on all the STs that he normally did all the time. (I will look for it) I took it to mean that he played some, but not all that he has in the past. ( For example, some punts, but not all of them maybe?) I didn't read it to be that he was off any one special team completely, just that he didn't play all of the snaps for that ST. Maybe it was an audition for others???

It would help to know if there may have been another reason for it. Did he get nicked up? The last I heard was that he was a very good STs player. Perhaps the best on the team. Then again, that didn't do much for Tracy White. Just tells you that STs players are expendable--especially if the coaches don't think they'll help on offense or defense eventually.

[Patler]

One of the writers this morning wrote that he didn't play on all the STs that he normally did all the time. (I will look for it) I took it to mean that he played some, but not all that he has in the past. ( For example, some punts, but not all of them maybe?) I didn't read it to be that he was off any one special team completely, just that he didn't play all of the snaps for that ST. Maybe it was an audition for others???

It would help to know if there may have been another reason for it. Did he get nicked up? The last I heard was that he was a very good STs player. Perhaps the best on the team. Then again, that didn't do much for Tracy White. Just tells you that STs players are expendable--especially if the coaches don't think they'll help on offense or defense eventually.

I think it was the GBPG "Notebook". It now states specifically that he was taken of the FG defense team in the overtime. It did not state that early this morning when I first read it.

Bush never got the chance to block Bironas’ 41-yard game winner in overtime because he wasn’t on the field. Bush, who has been a regular on the field-goal block team this season, said he was taken off that unit before overtime.

“We made some personnel changes,” Bush said.

Bush said he was not given a reason for the change.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Who almost blocked the FG in regulation? I didn't understand the last block attempt. It seemed like nobody fired off the edges and tried to block the kick--like they did on the FG at the end of regulation.

[Patler]

Who almost blocked the FG in regulation? I didn't understand the last block attempt. It seemed like nobody fired off the edges and tried to block the kick--like they did on the FG at the end of regulation.

Bush claims to have gotten a glove on it, which makes it all the more strange that he was not on the field for the overtime FG.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The only thing I can think of is that he was close to being offsides and the coaching staff didn't want to get a penalty to make the kick easier.

[Patler]

The only thing I can think of is that he was close to being offsides and the coaching staff didn't want to get a penalty to make the kick easier.

Possible, I suppose, but he said he was taken off before the overtime, which would mean right after he almost blocked the kick. Seems like an odd response under the situation.