Boy OH Boy

[Pacopete4]

Re: Boy OH Boy

A- our 5 wide set was the only thing good last season
B- he's gonna lose Jones soon if he doesnt see action
C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Everything I said to JH about getting over favre...apply to yourself. This is simply inflamatory BS that isn't even worth refuting anymore.

The biggest difference between JH and yourself is that his posts not involving BF are usually pretty solid.

whoa, whoa, whoa Ms. Lippy.... my post really doesn't have anything to do with my love for Favre but more so MM being a dumbass and not using the talent on this team. WE HAVE FIVE VERY GOOD WR'S! Why are they not being used like they were last season? WHY? If its cuz Arod isnt there yet, then fine... but MM said he has the same playbook and I call bullshit because if he did, Jones would be out there making plays like he did last season... hell our 5 this years are even better than last years... so what the fuck are we doing?

[BF4MVP]

I really don't think this topic has anything to do with Paco's love for Favre, and I, too, am confused as to why the Big Five hasn't been employed yet. Jordy Nelson replaced Koren Robinson when he got cut. Since when do they not have room for James Jones? Doesn't make sense to me, the guy is the third- or fourth-best receiver on the roster..Put all five out there..Hell, try Jones on ST if you're trying to make room for ST players. I'm sure he wouldn't mind...

[Bossman641]

Re: Boy OH Boy

A- our 5 wide set was the only thing good last season
B- he's gonna lose Jones soon if he doesnt see action
C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Everything I said to JH about getting over favre...apply to yourself. This is simply inflamatory BS that isn't even worth refuting anymore.

The biggest difference between JH and yourself is that his posts not involving BF are usually pretty solid.

whoa, whoa, whoa Ms. Lippy.... my post really doesn't have anything to do with my love for Favre but more so MM being a dumbass and not using the talent on this team. WE HAVE FIVE VERY GOOD WR'S! Why are they not being used like they were last season? WHY? If its cuz Arod isnt there yet, then fine... but MM said he has the same playbook and I call bullshit because if he did, Jones would be out there making plays like he did last season... hell our 5 this years are even better than last years... so what the fuck are we doing?

C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Yea, you are right. Your post in no way insinuates that the team is worse this year only because Favre is gone.

I'll just assume that "one member" you are talkin about is Corey Williams.

[Pacopete4]

Re: Boy OH Boy

A- our 5 wide set was the only thing good last season
B- he's gonna lose Jones soon if he doesnt see action
C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Everything I said to JH about getting over favre...apply to yourself. This is simply inflamatory BS that isn't even worth refuting anymore.

The biggest difference between JH and yourself is that his posts not involving BF are usually pretty solid.

whoa, whoa, whoa Ms. Lippy.... my post really doesn't have anything to do with my love for Favre but more so MM being a dumbass and not using the talent on this team. WE HAVE FIVE VERY GOOD WR'S! Why are they not being used like they were last season? WHY? If its cuz Arod isnt there yet, then fine... but MM said he has the same playbook and I call bullshit because if he did, Jones would be out there making plays like he did last season... hell our 5 this years are even better than last years... so what the fuck are we doing?

C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Yea, you are right. Your post in no way insinuates that the team is worse this year only because Favre is gone.

I'll just assume that "one member" you are talkin about is Corey Williams.

Actually Bossman, that line was to say "heck, we only lost one player, why are we changing our offense that did so well last year?" not fucking, oh we suck cuz Favres not here... it really backed up Rodgers and the rest of the offense really.... but hey, jump down my throat for making a post about why this team may be struggling this year under MM and his pussy pants that he has on this season

[Pacopete4]

hell screw it... fuck 5 wide, lets keep the zone blocking scheme going and ram it, i mean cut block it, down peoples throats into the endzone... oh ya, that doesnt seem to be working...

[BF4MVP]

The way I read it, in a way, Paco complimented Rodgers, saying that they didn't have to take out such a big part of their offense just because Rodgers is there instead of Favre..

That said, that's not why they did it. To quote MM, "It comes down to special teams."

[Pacopete4]

The way I read it, in a way, Paco complimented Rodgers, saying that they didn't have to take out such a big part of their offense just because Rodgers is there instead of Favre..

That said, that's not why they did it. To quote MM, "It comes down to special teams."

good point, maybe I am off base there about special teams but what did Jones do last season? I mean it wasn't like he was our #1 or #2 last year either

[BF4MVP]

The way I read it, in a way, Paco complimented Rodgers, saying that they didn't have to take out such a big part of their offense just because Rodgers is there instead of Favre..

That said, that's not why they did it. To quote MM, "It comes down to special teams."

good point, maybe I am off base there about special teams but what did Jones do last season? I mean it wasn't like he was our #1 or #2 last year either

I agree with you. I'm confused as to why Jones is not seeing the field as well..When Coach says it comes down to special teams, I'm assuming that other positions need shoring up, and he has to use the gameday roster spots for those positions (defensive line has lost Jenkins and KGB so they need more depth there, etc)..Take from a position of strength and use the extra gameday roster spot to add depth to another position..And Jordy and Finley get activated instead of Jones because they play special teams and Jones does not..

Hell I don't even know..My post hardly even makes sense to me

[Bossman641]

Re: Boy OH Boy

A- our 5 wide set was the only thing good last season
B- he's gonna lose Jones soon if he doesnt see action
C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Everything I said to JH about getting over favre...apply to yourself. This is simply inflamatory BS that isn't even worth refuting anymore.

The biggest difference between JH and yourself is that his posts not involving BF are usually pretty solid.

whoa, whoa, whoa Ms. Lippy.... my post really doesn't have anything to do with my love for Favre but more so MM being a dumbass and not using the talent on this team. WE HAVE FIVE VERY GOOD WR'S! Why are they not being used like they were last season? WHY? If its cuz Arod isnt there yet, then fine... but MM said he has the same playbook and I call bullshit because if he did, Jones would be out there making plays like he did last season... hell our 5 this years are even better than last years... so what the fuck are we doing?

C- we are fuckin 4-4 with the way we are playing, 13-3 last season with the way that team played... only one member is gone..... why change so radically?.... stupid

Yea, you are right. Your post in no way insinuates that the team is worse this year only because Favre is gone.

I'll just assume that "one member" you are talkin about is Corey Williams.

Actually Bossman, that line was to say "heck, we only lost one player, why are we changing our offense that did so well last year?" not fucking, oh we suck cuz Favres not here... it really backed up Rodgers and the rest of the offense really.... but hey, jump down my throat for making a post about why this team may be struggling this year under MM and his pussy pants that he has on this season

I don't know what MM is thinking, but maybe he is trying to be smart with Jones. I know they claim he is healthy, but he has claimed he was good to go before and then reinjured his knee. Maybe he doesn't think Rodgers is ready to go 5 wide in the Metrodome yet, considering how noisy it gets in there. If that's the case, there really is no point to activate Jones then.

Maybe Finley actually is decent and there is more to him than dropped balls, stupid penalties, and mouthing off. OK that one's probably false.

Sorry if it seemed like I was jumping down your throat, the "we're 4-4 now and were 13-3 last year with the same team, minus one" comment is what got me. I see what you could have meant now.

[Guiness]

It's hard to fathom - Jones was the #3WR last year. How does he go from #3 to not being dressed?

I'd have to guess that Nelson made the most of his chance, and is now considered the #3, because there's no way you don't dress your #3...

So I'd guess that when it comes down to a choice between Ruvell and Jones, Ruvell brings something extra (very sure hands in the red zone?) to the table.

[MJZiggy]

Ruvell is also a very tall target who can go up and get the ball in traffic. (which is really saying about the same thing, but still...)

[Gunakor]

The 13-3 comparison to 4-4 this year is Bush League

MANY more differences than one player gone

New QB
Corey Williams gone for season
Cullen Jenkins gone for season
Al Harris missed significant playing time already

Last year our offense, and Favre, played like horsecrap against Phily and we squeaked one out we didn't deserve. Breaks went our way last year.
The Chargers had some major injuries when we played them last year; the Giants as well.

Has not happened this year

We have a new team this year; get over the 13-3 comparisons.

We were playing Charlie Peprah at FS for a time... and rookie Jeremy Thompson at DE. Justin Harrell and Michael Montgomery get healthy and activated make the D-Line look very solid once again. But while we were playing our 4th DE alongside our 3rd DT, with basically one backup to give them a breather, it didn't look very good.

Ryan Grant is just getting his legs back, our WR's had a rare case of the dropsies early this season, our O-Line doesn't begin to gel until mid season and hadn't last year either. Our schedule has been tougher. Teams that were sure wins because they were horseshit last year look like legitimate playoff contenders this year. There are so many differences between last year and this year I can't count them all.

I agree with B on this one, the comparisons to last year need to end. This is a slightly different team in a very different situation. The two seasons are incomparable.

[Gunakor]

they got to get him in there. the guys got talent, and the 5 wr set is more important then that 11th guy on special teams

what a waste

and fritz is right, this shouldn't be him vs nelson and ruvell. those are both good players that also need to be on the roster

But if Rodgers struggles in the 5WR set, why would you want to activate 5 WR's for the game? To cater to Rodgers strengths and weaknesses, you are only going to play 4 WR's anyhow. That's what Rodgers is more comfortable with. Why carry a 5th if he's not going to play?

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's hard to fathom - Jones was the #3WR last year. How does he go from #3 to not being dressed?

MM must be reading this forum.

[Gunakor]

It's hard to fathom - Jones was the #3WR last year. How does he go from #3 to not being dressed?

I'd have to guess that Nelson made the most of his chance, and is now considered the #3, because there's no way you don't dress your #3...

So I'd guess that when it comes down to a choice between Ruvell and Jones, Ruvell brings something extra (very sure hands in the red zone?) to the table.

Ruvell plays on teams too, and has been doing so for a few years. Jones would just be jumping in for the first time, so Ruvell has a huge advantage there as he's much more experienced. Besides, I don't think there's a huge dropoff from Jones to Martin from a WR perspective. I think teams play was the deciding factor here.