That Favre Magic

[Fred's Slacks]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

I didn't notice that. Not saying it didn't happen. I did see him take a few sacks.

All the complaining last year was about the run game and a couple games where Colledge couldn't do anything. The pass protection was never this bad last year.

[red]

maybe last year brett reminded each lineman in the huddle to block during that play

[packinpatland]

maybe last year brett reminded each lineman in the huddle to block during that play

We're not talking high school here, these are/were paid professionals!

[Sammy4Pack]

We could of had #4. Say what you want about Favre being too emotional and bailing on the packers, but what did you expect? FOr a full month prior to reinstatement, the packers tried their best to keep him retired. So, how is Favre suppose to commit 100% to the packers when...

- He is not guarenteed to be the starter, despite placing second in MVP votes last year and getting hte packers to the NFC championship game.
- The packers wanted him to make a decision before the draft. He was in a crappy mood over his final pass as a packer, the retirement was to be expected at that time.
- The packers spent the entire month prior to the reinstatement telling favre to stay retired. That they moved on.
- TT and MM commited to AR, and as Favre and Family said themselves, ever since AR was drafted there wasn't much support from management to make favre not want to retire.


So, excuse me. He made the mistake of retiring early, but it was the packers originzation (specifically TT), that caused the rift with #4 playing in GB, not Favre. When you spend an entire month telling him not to come back,a nd he does anyways, of course he is not commited to the team that told him they didn't want him to come back.

You forgot:

-The bribe they offered for him to stay retired.

Great post

[packinpatland]

That wasn't a 'bribe'........he was going to sell T-shirts or something.

[The Shadow]

its becoming more and more clear to me that brett brought a something special to this team that many of us can't figure out or understand. but its clear that there was something about him. was it the laid back attitude, was it the child like love for the game, was it his drive to win? i don't know, but just looking at the mood and attitude of the team makes you think that something major has changed from last year to this year. this year they have come out many times and looked flat, they don't have that killer instinct to put the game away when they have the chance. last year they seemed to have that extra pep and drive.

did he make them want to play harder? did they feel they had to work harder?who knows, but the attitude of this team has gone down the shitter this year

and when you look at the jets and see them playing so much better, you got to wonder

and its just not the qb play, because rodgers is having a better year then brett stat wise. but there has to be something else that brett brought, and some of us are starting to figure that out

and it makes me more pissed that TT and MM ran him out of town

Brett ran Brett out of town. Brett is responsible for where he is at becuase he couldn't COMMIT to the team. The big temper tantrum he threw becuase he wasn't put above the team made sure he would never be with the team.
But, TT & MM did not run Brett out of town. That is a crock of BS.

Bingo! Right on the money. He has no one to blame but himself.

[Bretsky]

its becoming more and more clear to me that brett brought a something special to this team that many of us can't figure out or understand. but its clear that there was something about him. was it the laid back attitude, was it the child like love for the game, was it his drive to win? i don't know, but just looking at the mood and attitude of the team makes you think that something major has changed from last year to this year. this year they have come out many times and looked flat, they don't have that killer instinct to put the game away when they have the chance. last year they seemed to have that extra pep and drive.

did he make them want to play harder? did they feel they had to work harder?who knows, but the attitude of this team has gone down the shitter this year

and when you look at the jets and see them playing so much better, you got to wonder

and its just not the qb play, because rodgers is having a better year then brett stat wise. but there has to be something else that brett brought, and some of us are starting to figure that out

and it makes me more pissed that TT and MM ran him out of town

Brett ran Brett out of town. Brett is responsible for where he is at becuase he couldn't COMMIT to the team. The big temper tantrum he threw becuase he wasn't put above the team made sure he would never be with the team.
But, TT & MM did not run Brett out of town. That is a crock of BS.

Bingo! Right on the money. He has no one to blame but himself.

I'm way beyond the blame game; that has been rehashed over and over and over and over and over and over.

Besides the blame game I completely agree with Red

[packinpatland]

Twice in 24 hours, this has to stop...........but B...........I agree.

[MJZiggy]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

[Bretsky]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

Well please stop watching him so we secure a better draft pick

[MJZiggy]

[gex]

We could of had #4. Say what you want about Favre being too emotional and bailing on the packers, but what did you expect? FOr a full month prior to reinstatement, the packers tried their best to keep him retired. So, how is Favre suppose to commit 100% to the packers when...

- He is not guarenteed to be the starter, despite placing second in MVP votes last year and getting hte packers to the NFC championship game.
- The packers wanted him to make a decision before the draft. He was in a crappy mood over his final pass as a packer, the retirement was to be expected at that time.
- The packers spent the entire month prior to the reinstatement telling favre to stay retired. That they moved on.
- TT and MM commited to AR, and as Favre and Family said themselves, ever since AR was drafted there wasn't much support from management to make favre not want to retire.


So, excuse me. He made the mistake of retiring early, but it was the packers originzation (specifically TT), that caused the rift with #4 playing in GB, not Favre. When you spend an entire month telling him not to come back,a nd he does anyways, of course he is not commited to the team that told him they didn't want him to come back.

You forgot:

-The bribe they offered for him to stay retired.

Great post

Welcome to the forum Sammy
I agree also.

[Partial]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

Right, it happens... The Jets offensive line is not any better than the Packs imo. Favre just knows how to make things happen in the clutch. Part of that whole hall of famer, best quartterback ever sort of thing

[Bretsky]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

Right, it happens... The Jets offensive line is not any better than the Packs imo. Favre just knows how to make things happen in the clutch. Part of that whole hall of famer, best quartterback ever sort of thing

WOW

The Jets OL is WAY better than the Packers right now IMO

[Partial]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

Right, it happens... The Jets offensive line is not any better than the Packs imo. Favre just knows how to make things happen in the clutch. Part of that whole hall of famer, best quartterback ever sort of thing

WOW

The Jets OL is WAY better than the Packers right now IMO

Eh, thats debateable. Ferguson has been a dissapointment and is light in the ass. I'd take Clifton over him. Clifton had a bad game last week but otherwise has been alright in pass protection. Much like Clifton, both are average run blockers are best. Do you think Ferguson is that much better than Clifton at Pass Protection?? I don't think so. And neither is very good at run blocking imo.

Colledge has improved this year and Faneca hasn't been anything special as far as I know. Maybe a slight advantage when running the ball with Fanny, but Colledge has been our most consistent OL and is performing quite well according to the coaching staff ( or so I've read here ).

They have a huge advantage at center of Mangold over our munchin Scotty Wells.

The right side of our line is very solid, so unless theirs is borderine spectacular I don't see much of an advantage their imo.

Favre was getting bum rushed pretty hard last night. The difference is he stands in the pocket and makes things happen.