That Favre Magic

[red]

Besides the blame game I completely agree with Red

you would, pussy

[Fosco33]

I believe Favre was one of the fewest sacked QBs last year... that's due to his ability to brush off pass rushers and just make plays (quick release, shotgun formations

Can't compare Pack '07-Pack '08 or Pack '08 to Jets '08 in terms of Oline performance and sacks.

In '07, he was sacked just 15 times (already 19 with the Jets in a half season). For comparison, Rodgers has been sacked 21 times this year...

That's just how Favre stays healthy (and knowing how to fall properly).

Can't teach that really.

[MJZiggy]

Well if it weren't for the Minny game Rodgers would have a sack number around, like 5. That was just dreadful...

Partial, did you just use the words Colledge and consistent in the same sentence? While he is more consistent than he was, that still doesn't add up to consistency.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Besides the blame game I completely agree with Red

you would, pussy

The blame game is the part I agree with. Oh ya, and I agree Bretsky is a pussy.

[Bretsky]

Did you see Favre dodging, dipping, ducking, diving and dodging the pass rush? NE's pass rush was relentless last night as well, and like a savy vet he managed to make things happen.

Do you all not remember us cursing the line for weeks 1-8 last year? They were awful.

Granted I only had the game on for a little while after the half, but what I saw was Brett get sacked on 2 successive plays, lose over 20 yards and go 3 and out. Then I stayed for another series in which they went 3 and out so I went to bed.

Right, it happens... The Jets offensive line is not any better than the Packs imo. Favre just knows how to make things happen in the clutch. Part of that whole hall of famer, best quartterback ever sort of thing

WOW

The Jets OL is WAY better than the Packers right now IMO

Eh, thats debateable. Ferguson has been a dissapointment and is light in the ass. I'd take Clifton over him. Clifton had a bad game last week but otherwise has been alright in pass protection. Much like Clifton, both are average run blockers are best. Do you think Ferguson is that much better than Clifton at Pass Protection?? I don't think so. And neither is very good at run blocking imo.

Colledge has improved this year and Faneca hasn't been anything special as far as I know. Maybe a slight advantage when running the ball with Fanny, but Colledge has been our most consistent OL and is performing quite well according to the coaching staff ( or so I've read here ).

They have a huge advantage at center of Mangold over our munchin Scotty Wells.

The right side of our line is very solid, so unless theirs is borderine spectacular I don't see much of an advantage their imo.

Favre was getting bum rushed pretty hard last night. The difference is he stands in the pocket and makes things happen.

Ferguson is probably a better run blocker in that system that Clifton is in the ZBS.

Mangold is better than Wells
Woody is better then Spitz

Faneca is WAY better than Colledge

If Favre had the GB wide receivers and the Jets offensive line it'd by scary

[KYPack]

Woody is better then Spitz

The young Damien Woody was a good player.

The Woody of 2008 is hanging on by a thread.

I'd take Spitz, altho he's been erratic this year.

Alan Faneca is unreal, espec. for his age.

[Fred's Slacks]

Eh, thats debateable. Ferguson has been a dissapointment and is light in the ass. I'd take Clifton over him. Clifton had a bad game last week but otherwise has been alright in pass protection. Much like Clifton, both are average run blockers are best. Do you think Ferguson is that much better than Clifton at Pass Protection?? I don't think so. And neither is very good at run blocking imo.

I don't know alot about Ferguson, but you're being way to kind to Clifton. He played well week 1 and week 7. I wasn't able to watch the Seahawk game week 6 so I can't comment on how he did in that game. I think he played okay against Dallas and Tenn. He was terrible against Atlanta, Tampa and this week against MN. Even the Detriot game was sub par for him.

[GBRulz]

Well if it weren't for the Minny game Rodgers would have a sack number around, like 5. That was just dreadful...

He was sacked more against Dallas than Minny. He's had a few 4 and 5 sack games this year. TT better spend some money for an OL next year or this 67 million dollar contract will be a waste.

[GBRulz]

We could of had #4. Say what you want about Favre being too emotional and bailing on the packers, but what did you expect? FOr a full month prior to reinstatement, the packers tried their best to keep him retired. So, how is Favre suppose to commit 100% to the packers when...

- He is not guarenteed to be the starter, despite placing second in MVP votes last year and getting hte packers to the NFC championship game.
- The packers wanted him to make a decision before the draft. He was in a crappy mood over his final pass as a packer, the retirement was to be expected at that time.
- The packers spent the entire month prior to the reinstatement telling favre to stay retired. That they moved on.
- TT and MM commited to AR, and as Favre and Family said themselves, ever since AR was drafted there wasn't much support from management to make favre not want to retire.


So, excuse me. He made the mistake of retiring early, but it was the packers originzation (specifically TT), that caused the rift with #4 playing in GB, not Favre. When you spend an entire month telling him not to come back,a nd he does anyways, of course he is not commited to the team that told him they didn't want him to come back.

You forgot:

-The bribe they offered for him to stay retired.

Great post

Great post PackerBacker and Sammy...welcome to PR !

[Bretsky]

Well if it weren't for the Minny game Rodgers would have a sack number around, like 5. That was just dreadful...

Opponents have 21 sacks against the Packers; weren't you lecturing somebody else for not having their facts in a row a couple weeks ago



Per the radio three games Rodgers was sacked four times or more, and his QB rating in those games is around 55. No bueno.

[Fosco33]

I believe Favre was one of the fewest sacked QBs last year... that's due to his ability to brush off pass rushers and just make plays (quick release, shotgun formations

Can't compare Pack '07-Pack '08 or Pack '08 to Jets '08 in terms of Oline performance and sacks.

In '07, he was sacked just 15 times (already 19 with the Jets in a half season). For comparison, Rodgers has been sacked 21 times this year...

That's just how Favre stays healthy (and knowing how to fall properly).

Can't teach that really.

Come on, B...

[Gunakor]

If Favre had the GB wide receivers and the Jets offensive line it'd by scary

IMO, the same could be said for Rodgers. Instead of shipping our WR's to NY, pretend NY's OL were here in Green Bay with Rodgers under center and our WR's split wide. How good would we be then?

[CaliforniaCheez]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/11/14/2008-11-14_confident_jets_team_feels_it_can_go_real.html

There's a reason why the Jets - the first-place Jets - believe anything is possible in what has become a potentially magical season.

"You get into the huddle and you look into No.4's eyes and you know you're going to have a chance to win," Leon Washington said late Thursday night after the Jets' gut-wrenching win (if there is such a thing) over the Patriots.

Brett Favre's eyes have been leading teams for nearly two decades, and now the Jets (7-3) - winners of four straight - are under his spell. He probably had them at "hello," upon his arrival in August, but his penchant for delivering in the clutch has instilled a rare and growing confidence in a team that hasn't felt this good about itself in a few years.

"We brought him here to lead this team to wherever we need to go," Jerricho Cotchery said Friday, some 17 hours after the 34-31 overtime classic.

Favre completed nine of his last 11 passes against the Patriots, directing a 67-yard touchdown drive in the fourth quarter and a 64-yard field-goal march on the first possession of overtime. It was the third time in the last four games that he had led a late scoring drive that won or sealed an outcome. That doesn't include the game in Oakland, where the Jets tied the game in the final minute of regulation only to lose in overtime.

That's the kind of stuff that can carry a team a long way. Save for the undefeated Titans, whom the Jets face on the road in eight days, the AFC is wide open. Now that they've cleared the psychological hurdle of beating the Patriots (6-4), who knows where it will end?

[MOBB DEEP]

Rodgers even in training camp couldn't find guys open and looked horrible.

thats news to me....

[MOBB DEEP]

you can't just pick up a story half way through it and say this is the way things happened. you have to tell the whole story

So then I put it in and she said, "No! Not there!" She did hesitate for a moment however, and then relented. "I mean, I've never tried that before." A sigh later and we were in business.

Who says you need the whole story?

i think u're a virgin he he