HEY HO..TED MUST GO

[Bretsky]

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I've been begging for a FA OG to get signed for years; we've got so much money the price does not matter that much. Then let all the newbies fight it out. But TT does not believe in FA, which is fine. What I see is the recipe to have a pretty decent team year after year. Not sure this is the recipe for a title unless you believe TT will hit it huge on some draft picks and get a few more stars along the way. We'll always be young though.

Bretsky, do u or anyone else know tt's rationale for balkn at FA?

B, do u know a lady named kelly ackley from fort?

she was the first white hottie i dated during my 2 years at uw whitewater. she had redic body for a youngn so if she hasnt been workn out it's probably flabby 15 years later. hope she's not ur wife... [/quote]


Rationale for avoiding FA for the most part is it's better to build from within through the draft. Of course you need to keep hitting on draft picks then.
Plenty of mistakes are also made in free agency so it's a risk for a GM to go that route as well.

I don't know Kelly; if you were dating a gal named Jodi who was a hottie bartender at the Pink Cadillac...........I don't want to know about it

[ND72]

lol dnt get mad, its all fun and games

Tell that to the posters that left this forum because of this shit.

Probably because they could not post or start a thread without people like yourself ridiculing them and calling them names.
Isn't that pretty much what you do around here is insult other posters that don't think/act the way you think they should EH BALLHAWK!

Sorry, I only got this far before I had to write something. I used to love coming on this form. Many of the "originals" know what it was like here when the js board sucked, and this one was rocking. Great posts, great conversations, no putting down, no yelling, etc. etc.

I first came here the spring of the Hawk draft pick...on jso, I'd get creamed for saying we should take AJ Hawk. On here, even though some didn't agree, we had rational, adult conversations about it.

It has changed for the worse.

I still love coming here and catching up on some reading....but some of these dumb posts just make me not come back that often.

[gex]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Thanx LEWCWA.

Let people discuss topics because that's why we have message boards. If people don't agree, fine, don't agree but lets be constructive and not destructive like these guys like to do.

[cpk1994]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Talk about Pot calling kettle....

[SkinBasket]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Thanx LEWCWA.

Let people discuss topics because that's why we have message boards. If people don't agree, fine, don't agree but lets be constructive and not destructive like these guys like to do.

Wow. You're not transparent or anything.

[Fred's Slacks]

This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Even Wist, Mr. Skeptic, says he doesn't think TT should be fired. That should tell you something. He was executive of the year last year. He makes way more good moves than bad ones. This is a ridiculous topic.

[Fritz]

Two points:

First, to Wist, I would say I agree to an extent that the Packers - on the defensive side - run a kind of defense I don't care for. For me, it's not so much about the team not blitzing, it's this two-gap scheme. That scheme's success seems predicated on every single player having to carry out his assignment perfectly, whereas it seems to my untrained eye that a one-gap scheme allows players to make plays and not just hold points of attack.

Second point, for Bretsky - come on now, you know better than to trot out the "TT doesn't believe in free agency" line. Charles Woodson. Ryan Pickett. Brandon Chillar. And a couple of guards who were washouts his first or second year, right?

He's very, very careful with it, sure. Maybe he's too careful. In fact, I'd agree with your approach to signing a guard - if there's a good one out there. It's the only way he's going to fix what seems to be a major problem in the short term. But it'd have to be a premium guard, not someone who's just a name or just another overacheiver whose best days are behind him.

[Gunakor]

Second point, for Bretsky - come on now, you know better than to trot out the "TT doesn't believe in free agency" line. Charles Woodson. Ryan Pickett. Brandon Chillar. And a couple of guards who were washouts his first or second year, right?

He's very, very careful with it, sure. Maybe he's too careful. In fact, I'd agree with your approach to signing a guard - if there's a good one out there. It's the only way he's going to fix what seems to be a major problem in the short term. But it'd have to be a premium guard, not someone who's just a name or just another overacheiver whose best days are behind him.

It doesn't have to be a premium guard necessarily. It just has to be a guard of good value. He's not going to pay Steve Hutchinson type money to a FA guard unless it is a player who is just entering his prime. He'll sign a guy nearing the end of his prime, too, just not at a premium cost. As long as the production they give warrants the salary TT signs them for, I don't think there are any players TT won't take a look at signing in FA. He just won't get caught overpaying for anyone.

[LEWCWA]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Talk about Pot calling kettle....

another useless post

[LEWCWA]

Obviously, I think it was a mistake to let Brett go. Much of that may be for my own selfish reasons. I also think it is a pretty bad decision to go into a season with one QB. (Yeah I know we have 2 others on the roster, but if either of them have to play the season is over) So please spare me the smartass comments on that front! My other problem with TT is his lack of developing an offensive line....but I can't blame him too much as he has drafted guys...I'm starting to think a more power based system would be better. Not that I am any expert....all in all I like what TT has done with this team. Now we just have to see if he can take them the next step....

[Guiness]

Gex cant hold Tanks jock. Maybe someday but the kid just ain't got what it takes yet. He doesn't have that IT factor that P likes to talk about so much. If I met Tank I dont know what I would do exactly. Either punch him or buy him a beer. Gex I would ignore like so many fallen leaves now under the snow in my yard.

I was trying to figure out how to say it myself Zool, but I think you captured it.

Tank was a loveable looser, that you just shook your head at. So much of his stuff was inane that you often had to think he was sitting back and laughing at it himself.

Gex takes himself too seriously, and has a mean streak - both characteristics I don't associate with tank. Or at least not consistently.

[The Gunshooter]

Obviously, I think it was a mistake to let Brett go. Much of that may be for my own selfish reasons. I also think it is a pretty bad decision to go into a season with one QB. (Yeah I know we have 2 others on the roster, but if either of them have to play the season is over) So please spare me the smartass comments on that front! My other problem with TT is his lack of developing an offensive line....but I can't blame him too much as he has drafted guys...I'm starting to think a more power based system would be better. Not that I am any expert....all in all I like what TT has done with this team. Now we just have to see if he can take them the next step....

I am with you on the philosophy part of bigger guys for cold conditions. There is a reason animals are bigger up north and it applies to football also.

Brett is 39 and this year's team is worse than last year(injuries) even with him. They were better off getting Rodgers some experience now because Rodgers will get a lot better. The key to winning a Super Bowl or two for GB is going to rest with whether or not TT can restock this roster faster than it is depleted. So far I give TT a B-, but he needs to pick up the pace. They need a couple o-lineman(maybe Sitton is one, Wells is too small, back problems), a couple linebackers(Barnett is done, Pop sucks), a DE, a DT(Harrell has the talent but is too lazy) and another starting quality cornerback(not TW, maybe Pat Lee). If TT can do that in the next two years GB will win a super bowl. If not, they won't.

[SkinBasket]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Talk about Pot calling kettle....

another useless post

Ha! I'm sure the humor here is lost on you.

[cpk1994]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Talk about Pot calling kettle....

another useless post

You tell people to get through high school. But I seem to recall that you posted enough useless threads in 10-15 minutes to cover the entire first page of the forum a couple of weeks ago. So who needs to get through High school?

[LEWCWA]

Wow--look at how a real discussion can develope if people quit bashing other posters. The whole slew comes out and wastes 2.5 pages bashing one poster, with nothing intelligent to say on the subject. Now who are the trolls around here......Some of you really need to get through high school...This is a viable topic if discussed. There are viable reasons to want TT fired....but we can't discuss that, because of the thread hijacking police!

Talk about Pot calling kettle....

another useless post

You tell people to get through high school. But I seem to recall that you posted enough useless threads in 10-15 minutes to cover the entire first page of the forum a couple of weeks ago. So who needs to get through High school?

Yep I did and I have. Thing is you haven't. You can't help yourself I guess. You refuse to give any credence to the idea that Packer management made a mistake or Brett maybe should still be here. Mostly your here to bash anything positive said about Brett. You are a Brett junkie on the other side of the fence.

There are pros and cons both ways on this issue and both have legitimate arguments. What side you fall on doesn't really matter at this point, it is done....I'm sure this trade will be discussed for years to come here and nationally as well. Thing is many on here will discuss Brett and how he is doing as long as he plays. Face it we are all Packer fans, but many are Brett fans as well. I'm sure all Brett fans would pull for the Packers if they played against Brett, but you don't have to wash your hands of Brett to be a Packer fan. You seem to think you do. Obviously, even if some don't think so, Brett is a viable topic. His threads seem to attract the most response....