Can Packer Rats be saved?

[Deputy Nutz]

the team is 4-5. The questions are more than deserved. All you tell me is that the team is young, great they are young but I am not totally thrilled with the young talent on this team outside of the secondary. Sorry to burst your bubble but tell me one "young" player that is meeting expectations, or even exceeding them? Rodgers, maybe, Jennings was, but he can't seem to get on the same page with his qb and is struggling with a coverage shift.

I will grant you that Aaron Rodgers is playing to expectations. I actually had higher expectations for him. I thought with his receiver core he would have more games like in Detroit. His stat line is ok, but he has been unsteady the last two weeks. Again I thought he would gel better with receivers and tight ends since he has been in the system for three years.

I guess if all you are looking for is optimism you can point to the young roster and all the possibilities. I certainly don't go around bragging that the Packers are the youngest team and in fact 4-5 is right where they should be.

He's been unsteady the last two weeks, granted. But look who he was playing. He was playing two of the better defenses in the entire league. Those guys get paid too, ya know. When you match up against a defensive line that's a helluva lot better than your offensive line, your QB is going to struggle. That's happened 2 weeks in a row now, the same 2 weeks you complain about our QB being unsteady. You aren't gonna win them all. Sometimes you meet an opponent that matches up well against your biggest weakness, which has been the case the past 2 weeks. The fact that we've lost those 2 games by just 4 points combined suggests that maybe things aren't as bad as one would like to believe.

Things are as bad as 4-5 gets. Rodgers seemed to play just fine against the Vikes in week one. Passed well. What separates really good QBs from average QBs is not what they do when protection is good, but how they handle pressure. Rodgers has not handled the blitz well, and he has not handled pressure of the edge or from the middle. When he does get the ball off it is usually poorly thrown.

The Titans are good football team on defense in every part of the game. The Vikings pass defense is terrible.

Again, I point to two safeties in one game by one player. Not good.

Also, I keep hearing the offensive line is performing poorly, well who is responsible for that? Thompson certainly has not put a unit together that has performed consistently since his arrival in Green Bay. At stretches last year the unit did a good job in pass pro, but again nobody really wants to talk about last year, it was a fluke, so I guess the offensive line play was also a fluke last year. Thompson's roll as a GM last year I guess that was a fluke as well, he better give his award back.

[Partial]

4 out of the last 5 have been awful. QB rating does not always tell tale.

Whatever.

How can you argue that? Go look at the film, the numbers, etc. I'm not being a Rodgers slammer here. Legitimately, his numbers without a doubt have decreased significantly since Detroit. I'm chalking it up to game film being available and people beginning to recognize that he doesn't handle the blitz like a vet yet.

He played a poor game at Dallas. Didn't lead the team to the Endzone.

He played a poor game against Tampa. 3 turnovers, looked bad, lost game.

He played great against ATL but still lost.

He played conservative against Tennessee and couldn't get anything going. He looked pretty bad, and he led the offense to only one score.

This week he looked awful. He took two safeties, 4 sacks, didn't throw the ball down the field, etc, and again, led the offense to only one score.

The proof is in the pudding Harv. I'm being 100% neutral in this stance.

[Partial]

QB rating does not always tell tale.

unless favre puts up a high QB rating.

He's playing below expectations but I think he's starting to play a little better. The opposite trend of what Aaron has had in recent weeks. Then again, I am judging that from third party statement on Favres play. I haven't watched him in weeks.

[MOBB DEEP]

QB rating does not always tell tale.

unless favre puts up a high QB rating.

BINGO!

[MOBB DEEP]

QB rating does not always tell tale.

unless favre puts up a high QB rating.

Then again, I am judging that from third party statement on Favres play. I haven't watched him in weeks.

SPORTS BAR!!

[arcilite]

Partial, you crack me up dude.

Rodgers is awful...because you've watched game film?


lol wat

are you kidding me

[Bretsky]

To me PR is just fine

Membership has grown incredibly. The more posters the more potential spats we're bound to have at times

We went through a lot with the TT hate and TT love and we're by that
Went through more with the BF hate and BF love and we're working through that

A few posters left and we picked up some great quality posters.

I browse multiple Packer boards

This is still hands down the best one

[Deputy Nutz]

To me PR is just fine

Membership has grown incredibly. The more posters the more potential spats we're bound to have at times

We went through a lot with the TT hate and TT love and we're by that
Went through more with the BF hate and BF love and we're working through that

A few posters left and we picked up some great quality posters.

I browse multiple Packer boards

This is still hands down the best one

You're the best.

[Harlan Huckleby]

get a room

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get a room

HH, y the heck arent u posting in brett thread? u said u were down with the cause now...SIGH..

turncoat

[Bretsky]

get a room

I want to be back on Favre's side

Can you switch again ?

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get a room

I want to be back on Favre's side

Can you switch again ?

no switch hittn allowed in football

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favres headn to nfl total acess podium in a golf cart

[Bretsky]

get a room

I want to be back on Favre's side

Can you switch again ?

no switch hittn allowed in football

Actually I've always been on Favre's side; I just have a hard time agreeing with HH

[MOBB DEEP]

Oh