Fire TT

[rbaloha1]

This is absurd.

The team is transitioning from Favre to Rodgers. TT has positioned the team for super bowl runs.

Yes, this was a poor defensive performance. Players were out of position and the d-line could not get off their blocks.

Still in position for the playoffs but its become exceedingly difficult with each loss.

[TheRaven]

His insane love of being young and getting a million draft picks is taking us no where.

Agreed. I can't even remember the last time we won 13 games and went to the NFC Title game..

[Sparkey]

His insane love of being young and getting a million draft picks is taking us no where.

Agreed. I can't even remember the last time we won 13 games and went to the NFC Title game..

The Saints did what Dallas did to Green Bay last year. Put wr's in motion so that the db's can't get on them at the los and jam them. Plus, it seemed that Hawk was a bit slow at times in calling out the D or making adjustments. Poor angles by the safety's and boom. Game over. This is what happens when you have injuries to key personnel during the year.

Jenkins & Barnett out for season.
Bigby hurt and no where near the level he played at last year.
Hawk hurt early and now playing a new position due to Barnett injury.
KGB invisible and released and no passrush opposite Kampman.

Not a big suprise in the inconsistency and drop in play by replacements. It is what it is.

[denverYooper]

His insane love of being young and getting a million draft picks is taking us no where.

Agreed. I can't even remember the last time we won 13 games and went to the NFC Title game..

The Saints did what Dallas did to Green Bay last year. Put wr's in motion so that the db's can't get on them at the los and jam them. Plus, it seemed that Hawk was a bit slow at times in calling out the D or making adjustments. Poor angles by the safety's and boom. Game over. This is what happens when you have injuries to key personnel during the year.

Jenkins & Barnett out for season.
Bigby hurt and no where near the level he played at last year.
Hawk hurt early and now playing a new position due to Barnett injury.
KGB invisible and released and no passrush opposite Kampman.

Not a big suprise in the inconsistency and drop in play by replacements. It is what it is.

good perspective.

I was wondering today if Barnett's absence hurt the GnG against a pass-heavy Saints team. Not that he was Johnny Awesome this year--he's played better against the run in years past--but he's better in coverage than Hawk or PeePee.

[TheCheese]

This thread is such a joke. Even the thread name is fucking laughable, seriously guys where were you when we stomped out the bears.

After a huge win stay even keeled.

After a huge loss stay even keeled.

Really, put some fucking logic into it before you get all "WAH WAH WE LOST BIG FIRE TT IM A WHINY BITCH."

Get real.

[Rastak]

This thread is such a joke. Even the thread name is fucking laughable, seriously guys where were you when we stomped out the bears.

After a huge win stay even keeled.

After a huge loss stay even keeled.

Really, put some fucking logic into it before you get all "WAH WAH WE LOST BIG FIRE TT IM A WHINY BITCH."

Get real.

Well you certainly addressed his post point by point.

[bobblehead]

blah blah blah

after every loss, lets fire TT, after ever win, god we're awesome.

Yes, we have DL issues. I'm sure we'll address it in the offseason.

I'm less worried about that then the fact we made ZERO defensive adjustments.

This. Where were the blitzes? Im not saying all the time but if you aren't getting a pass rush with your 4, you bring 5 and 6. Sanders is an idiot.

yea, did you see that awesome corner blitz by woodsen...the one where brees read it perfectly and then Bigby missed a tackle...what a creatively dominant play that one was.

[Fritz]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

Schemes don't necessarily win games, not alone, but it's difficult as a fan to watch Vanilla Bob rush three men against Brees on 3rd and 15. The way that dude was seeing the field, that was like giving him the first down.

Guess I'd like to see a more aggressive defensive scheme.

[cpk1994]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

Schemes don't necessarily win games, not alone, but it's difficult as a fan to watch Vanilla Bob rush three men against Brees on 3rd and 15. The way that dude was seeing the field, that was like giving him the first down.

Guess I'd like to see a more aggressive defensive scheme.

A way to look at it, you have Vanilla Bob now which is bery passive. At one time in the past, yuo had Bob Slowik, blitz happy. Some where in the middle of those two philosophies leaning towards aggressive would be the key.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

AT defensive end, we got Thompson, Montgomery and Hunter splitting time. I defy you to scheme those turds into pass rushing threats.

And the defensive tackles are run stuffers, with just a rare burst upfield from Jolly.

They don't have the horses. Or players. Defensive line has been their achilies heel from day one, and they got exposed by a good O-line and great QB.

[prsnfoto]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

Schemes don't necessarily win games, not alone, but it's difficult as a fan to watch Vanilla Bob rush three men against Brees on 3rd and 15. The way that dude was seeing the field, that was like giving him the first down.

Guess I'd like to see a more aggressive defensive scheme.

You are not going to see that in GB they don't spend any money on stud linemen all ya got is Kampman and he was probably found by accident. The secondary has keep us in and won some games this year, the D has been a little dinged up where does the real problem lie>>>>>>>> The Offense they have been relatively healthy they are not scoring enough points and as bad as the d played if Rodgers doesn't throw three YEE HAW'S they were keeping pace. The D has it's problems but the O has failed to perform against teams that mount any kind of pressure whatsoever, bottomline they are soft and play less physical teams well like the Bears they ain't nothing like they used to be.

[Patler]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

AT defensive end, we got Thompson, Montgomery and Hunter splitting time. I defy you to scheme those turds into pass rushing threats.

And the defensive tackles are run stuffers, with just a rare burst upfield from Jolly.

They don't have the horses. Or players. Defensive line has been their achilies heel from day one, and they got exposed by a good O-line and great QB.

Gotta agree with HH on that. How much better would this line be with Jenkins at DE regularly and with KGB of the 2007 form on passing downs? How many more sacks would Kampman have?

[ThunderDan]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

Schemes don't necessarily win games, not alone, but it's difficult as a fan to watch Vanilla Bob rush three men against Brees on 3rd and 15. The way that dude was seeing the field, that was like giving him the first down.

Guess I'd like to see a more aggressive defensive scheme.

You are not going to see that in GB they don't spend any money on stud linemen all ya got is Kampman and he was probably found by accident. The secondary has keep us in and won some games this year, the D has been a little dinged up where does the real problem lie>>>>>>>> The Offense they have been relatively healthy they are not scoring enough points and as bad as the d played if Rodgers doesn't throw three YEE HAW'S they were keeping pace. The D has it's problems but the O has failed to perform against teams that mount any kind of pressure whatsoever, bottomline they are soft and play less physical teams well like the Bears they ain't nothing like they used to be.

Are you joking?!!?

You expect our offense to score 52 points a week!

Put the blame where it is due. Solidly on the D!

[RashanGary]

Ted will not draft a lesser player becuase he needs him more, however, there do seem to be many times that he has a choice of several players and he tends to either trade back or take the one he needs most if a trade is not possible. This is a year that maybe this tie breaker situation brings us some extra DL as I see DL as the #1 need and hope Ted does as well.

I hope this is a very deep DL draft. I don't really care if they're 1st or 2nd rounders, I just hope we bring in a lot of new blood. HIstory has shown us that the difference between a 6th rounder (Jolly) and a 1st rounder (Harrell) can be very small. As long as we start putting recources into this area I'll be happy. We're not going to hit on every pick, so we have to make sure to make several of them and let the cream rise to the top. I don't think all is lost, I just hope Ted isn't enamoured with this group. I really think this is an awfull DL and they need to be turned over as our best ones are about to hit that magical age of 30 and we have very little coming up.

The reason I hold Ted accountable right now for this problem is that he didn't inherit this one. He made it. The DL (IMO) is the most important part of the defense. This is just not acceptable. Many people blame Thompson for things that he had very little control over. Good things and bad things in the NFL are built over time. Many bad things were being built leading to Ted inheritance. He's been building many good things but the DL is not one of them. He has not put enough recources in this all important area IMO. I hope that trend changes.

[prsnfoto]

I think many of us are frustrated with the defensive coaching. The defensive scheme itself seems to encourage a kind of passivity by the defensive line. They're supposed to hold gaps, right? I like the idea of encouraging them to go get the damn football.

Schemes don't necessarily win games, not alone, but it's difficult as a fan to watch Vanilla Bob rush three men against Brees on 3rd and 15. The way that dude was seeing the field, that was like giving him the first down.

Guess I'd like to see a more aggressive defensive scheme.

You are not going to see that in GB they don't spend any money on stud linemen all ya got is Kampman and he was probably found by accident. The secondary has keep us in and won some games this year, the D has been a little dinged up where does the real problem lie>>>>>>>> The Offense they have been relatively healthy they are not scoring enough points and as bad as the d played if Rodgers doesn't throw three YEE HAW'S they were keeping pace. The D has it's problems but the O has failed to perform against teams that mount any kind of pressure whatsoever, bottomline they are soft and play less physical teams well like the Bears they ain't nothing like they used to be.

Are you joking?!!?

You expect our offense to score 52 points a week!

Put the blame where it is due. Solidly on the D!

You are talking about last week I am talking about the whole season yes Brees torched them because he is the only stud QB they have faced this year but look at how many defensive TD's they have scored this year. When the game is on the line how often has the Offense came through, better yet when faced with any kind of pass rush how many times has the Offense came through? Even better queation when the franchises future is on the line when has TT came through and drafted the O-lineman or D-lineman to save the team?