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  • #1

    Rodgers Is Carrying This Team

    Some interesting numbers I found, which hopefully can spark some discussion.

    1) Rodgers, is tied for first in the NFL, with Brees and Warner, with 24 total touchdowns

    2) Rodgers is on pace to have:

    More passing yards

    More rushing yards

    More passing touchdowns

    More rushing touchdowns

    Less interceptions



    Than the 07 Favre

    3) His offense is putting up 27.2 ppg. More than all of Favre's offenses, save two seasons.


    Pretty remarkable that a 24 year old 1st year starter is doing such big things right now. Shame the defense can't help him out.
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  • #2
    I know early in the year we had some help from the defense and ST scoring points but regardless of that, it is impressive what Rodgers is doing this year. He is NOT the reason we are losing. Piss poor play of the defense and the crappy ST play is the reason right now.

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    • #3
      He's doing really well, but this thread will do nothing more than stir shit and make the people who miss and love Favre more pissed and more likely to want to stab back at Rodgers again and again.


      None of this shit is fair to Favre who had a HOF career and doesn't deserve to be compared to a kid that has accomplished nothing yet. And the comparisons are made unfairly by not taking into accoutn circumstance (like the really, really good offense Rodgers inherited)

      None of this shit is fair to Rodgers who's having a really good season and does not deserve the vitriol that comes at him from the Favre faithfull who want to compare him negatively against the HOF Favre without taking into account circumstance (like a horrible defensive line that is crumbling in the 4th quarter, only being 24 years old starting his first season and a really tough schedule)

      Honestly, I'm sick of the comparisions. They're freaking useless and almost all of them have a stupid f'in agenda that in no way resembles a search for truth. More like a search for scapegoats or an attemt to belittle. That's it.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #4
        The scoring average is a bit skewed because the Packers' D/ST have scored 8 TD's, far more than most teams. In reality, the Packers offense has produced an average of 20 PPG. Rodgers has played well, but the Packers were probably a slightly better offense with Favre in 2007 than with Rodgers in 2008. That said, I have no problem with the decision to go with Rodgers who has justified the confidence the Packers showed in him. He has a bright future.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
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        • #5
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          He's doing really well, but this thread will do nothing more than stir shit and make the people who miss and love Favre more pissed and more likely to want to stab back at Rodgers again and again.


          None of this shit is fair to Favre who had a HOF career and doesn't deserve to be compared to a kid that has accomplished nothing yet. And the comparisons are made unfairly by not taking into accoutn circumstance (like the really, really good offense Rodgers inherited)

          None of this shit is fair to Rodgers who's having a really good season and does not deserve the vitriol that comes at him from the Favre faithfull who want to compare him negatively against the HOF Favre without taking into account circumstance (like a horrible defensive line that is crumbling in the 4th quarter, only being 24 years old starting his first season and a really tough schedule)

          Honestly, I'm sick of the comparisions. They're freaking useless and almost all of them have a stupid f'in agenda that in no way resembles a search for truth. More like a search for scapegoats or an attemt to belittle. That's it.
          I am sick of it too, but there is far less of this point of view so I guess I dont mind it being said. The only reason the Favre lovers are not making 35 post about what a mistake is was to not shit can Rodgers and bring him back is because the Jets lost today.

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          • #6
            I won't stir shit.

            Interesting perspective, as far as stats go. ARod is clearly having a terrific first year, and I have to think the game will slow down for him and he will continue to improve.

            The stat he still does not have is 4th quarter comeback victories. He'll get some, eventually, but he still has not pulled that off yet.

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            • #7
              This situation that Rodgers is in illustrates the burden that any young quarterback faces when he replaces a legendary quarterback. He is continually compared to his predecessor, sometimes for good, usually for bad.

              IMO, Rodgers is doing very well as a first year starter. Has he made mistakes? Absolutely he has! Overall, he is meeting and/or exceeding expectations.

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              • #8
                How exactly is it that a QB is "carrying" a team that is 5-7?

                hmm....GB's WR's are junk? I don't think so.

                As far as the comparisons, whatever. There is no way to truly compare and get an objective answer. As JH said, it's stirring shit.

                Rodgers is playing well.

                Good post JH.

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                • #9
                  The notion of one player carrying a team, in a game like football, is really absurd.

                  Coaches have to call good plays with creative formations.

                  The C has to make proper line calls, and the line has to block.

                  Backs have to pick up blitzers or sell the play fake.

                  Receivers have to run precise routes, make catches, and not punk out despite the prospect of violent collision.

                  The QB has to be money.

                  And they have to do it over and over and over again.

                  Then there comes the time when the D is on the field . . .

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                  • #10
                    Good points if they were true. Rodgers going into the game was on pace to throw- for -----

                    3780 yrds. Lets see Favre threw for well over 4,000 last year.

                    Going into the game Rodgers was on pace to throw for-----

                    25 tds Favre threw for what 27-28 last year. 2 more today so I still think Rodgers is on pace for about the same.



                    Rodgers is having a good year. The big difference is the defense, special teams. And Rodgers not coming through at the end. Lets not forget about some of the games Favre played well last year at the end of games. Except one major one I guess.

                    Lets not rewrite history to say Favre played like shit or something last year. He had a great year. His number tailed off at the end when it got cold and he sat out most of Detroit. Rodgers is not having as good of a year.

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                    • #11
                      Sorry 3 tds today. Rodgers is on pace to throw for 26.6 tds. Nope Favre still had more.

                      Get your numbers right

                      and adding into todays game he is now on pace to throw for 3862 yrds

                      Favre had 4100 yrds and 28 tds.


                      Lets see how Favre did last year through his first 12 games

                      3,600 yds averaging over 300 yrds a game
                      21 tds


                      Rodgers
                      2897 yrds
                      20 tds

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                      • #12
                        Favre had a great year last year and it helped that we got the bounces last year too.

                        AR is having a fantastic year and I like the mobility. Without it, say with Favre, I think Favre may be dead behind this line!
                        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                        • #13
                          I must have missed the day they changed the line from last year.

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                          • #14
                            The easy answer to how you can carry a 5-7 team is when it would be 2-10 without you

                            But while Chevelle might be stirring, it bears mentioning that the offense is finally doing what we wanted it to do since the beginning of the season. Finish drives and take time off the clock. Whether its Rodgers or Favre, is almost immaterial, the O has stepped up.

                            If we had last year's D playing for this team, we wouldn't be talking about Rodgers carrying it nor would we be worried about making the playoffs.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dissident94
                              I must have missed the day they changed the line from last year.
                              There were injuries in both seasons, affecting tackles and the center this year, but the level of play by the tackles has dipped, especially in pass protection. Just because the depth chart looks the same doesn't mean they are playing the same way.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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