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  • #61
    Re: Rodgers Is Carrying This Team

    Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
    First off I like Arod, but to compare the two is asinine. Sure, Carson Palmer is a first ballot HOF then right? Crazy good numbers, not so much for wins. How many winning seasons has he had with his sick QB rating........................1. I'm not one to compare those two, but there is one thing Brett has done consistently.................WIN.

    Shut the hell up and realize we are 5-7. Get back to us when you do (and yea, those offensive pts. are skewed bigtime by D TD's.) I like ARod, but till he brings us a winner..I'm off that parade you just launched as a "winner" in the QB debacle. Pathetic thread indeed. Who cares about stats when we lose. Go hit up Stephon Marbury's blog or something. Jeez....
    Winning is accomplished by a team. Wins and losses do not fall squarely on the shoulders of the QB. When your QB leads a drive late in the game to give you a lead with 2 minutes to go, he's done his job. If your team loses because your goddamn ST and defense can't do what's demanded of them, that's not the QB's fault. If your defense gives up a tying score heading into overtime, and then can't stop anyone IN overtime, that's not the QB's fault. That was the story for many years for Carson Palmer too - no defense in Cincy. That's not Palmer's fault.

    Many of Brett's winning seasons came along with having a top 10 defense - there were a couple years we had the #1 defense in the entire NFL. Look at the Jets defense this year - top 10 or damn close (were 10th before last weekend, haven't looked at what they are after). And Brett has 8 wins to show for it. A QB's success in the win column depends greatly on the other 44 guys who dress up on gameday.

    This year's 5-7 record has little to do with Aaron Rodgers specifically. It has much more to do with the Green Bay Packers in general. Stop putting the fortunes of a team with 53 members on the shoulders of just one of them. This is getting rediculous. And I'm not trying to single you out here, as there are several posters here that feel the same way as you do. The QB is not solely responsible for a teams record. Most of us understand that.

    By the way, that last game against Carolina was your example of Rodgers putting the team on his shoulders and leading them to victory. If you seriously place any blame on Rodgers for that loss, even considering that he led the Packers to scores on EVERY POSSESSION of the second half except for the last one that ended in a desperation heave downfield that was picked off, then there's no reasoning with you. You'll never be satisfied.

    Christ, I wish the players on defense and teams were playing with the same fire Rodgers and his offense were playing with on Sunday.
    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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    • #62
      Re: Rodgers Is Carrying This Team

      Originally posted by Gunakor
      Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
      First off I like Arod, but to compare the two is asinine. Sure, Carson Palmer is a first ballot HOF then right? Crazy good numbers, not so much for wins. How many winning seasons has he had with his sick QB rating........................1. I'm not one to compare those two, but there is one thing Brett has done consistently.................WIN.

      Shut the hell up and realize we are 5-7. Get back to us when you do (and yea, those offensive pts. are skewed bigtime by D TD's.) I like ARod, but till he brings us a winner..I'm off that parade you just launched as a "winner" in the QB debacle. Pathetic thread indeed. Who cares about stats when we lose. Go hit up Stephon Marbury's blog or something. Jeez....
      Winning is accomplished by a team. Wins and losses do not fall squarely on the shoulders of the QB. When your QB leads a drive late in the game to give you a lead with 2 minutes to go, he's done his job. If your team loses because your goddamn ST and defense can't do what's demanded of them, that's not the QB's fault. If your defense gives up a tying score heading into overtime, and then can't stop anyone IN overtime, that's not the QB's fault. That was the story for many years for Carson Palmer too - no defense in Cincy. That's not Palmer's fault.

      Many of Brett's winning seasons came along with having a top 10 defense - there were a couple years we had the #1 defense in the entire NFL. Look at the Jets defense this year - top 10 or damn close (were 10th before last weekend, haven't looked at what they are after). And Brett has 8 wins to show for it. A QB's success in the win column depends greatly on the other 44 guys who dress up on gameday.

      This year's 5-7 record has little to do with Aaron Rodgers specifically. It has much more to do with the Green Bay Packers in general. Stop putting the fortunes of a team with 53 members on the shoulders of just one of them. This is getting rediculous. And I'm not trying to single you out here, as there are several posters here that feel the same way as you do. The QB is not solely responsible for a teams record. Most of us understand that.

      By the way, that last game against Carolina was your example of Rodgers putting the team on his shoulders and leading them to victory. If you seriously place any blame on Rodgers for that loss, even considering that he led the Packers to scores on EVERY POSSESSION of the second half except for the last one that ended in a desperation heave downfield that was picked off, then there's no reasoning with you. You'll never be satisfied.

      Christ, I wish the players on defense and teams were playing with the same fire Rodgers and his offense were playing with on Sunday.
      Excellent post. And might I add:

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      • #63
        JUST WIN BABY...!!!
        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by The Shadow
          Rodgers has done an excellent job under extremely trying conditions
          what ""trying conditions?"

          FAT contract??
          They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

          Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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          • #65
            Re: Rodgers Is Carrying This Team

            Originally posted by Gunakor
            Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
            First off I like Arod, but to compare the two is asinine. Sure, Carson Palmer is a first ballot HOF then right? Crazy good numbers, not so much for wins. How many winning seasons has he had with his sick QB rating........................1. I'm not one to compare those two, but there is one thing Brett has done consistently.................WIN.

            Shut the hell up and realize we are 5-7. Get back to us when you do (and yea, those offensive pts. are skewed bigtime by D TD's.) I like ARod, but till he brings us a winner..I'm off that parade you just launched as a "winner" in the QB debacle. Pathetic thread indeed. Who cares about stats when we lose. Go hit up Stephon Marbury's blog or something. Jeez....
            Winning is accomplished by a team. Wins and losses do not fall squarely on the shoulders of the QB. When your QB leads a drive late in the game to give you a lead with 2 minutes to go, he's done his job. If your team loses because your goddamn ST and defense can't do what's demanded of them, that's not the QB's fault. If your defense gives up a tying score heading into overtime, and then can't stop anyone IN overtime, that's not the QB's fault. That was the story for many years for Carson Palmer too - no defense in Cincy. That's not Palmer's fault.

            Many of Brett's winning seasons came along with having a top 10 defense - there were a couple years we had the #1 defense in the entire NFL. Look at the Jets defense this year - top 10 or damn close (were 10th before last weekend, haven't looked at what they are after). And Brett has 8 wins to show for it. A QB's success in the win column depends greatly on the other 44 guys who dress up on gameday.

            This year's 5-7 record has little to do with Aaron Rodgers specifically. It has much more to do with the Green Bay Packers in general. Stop putting the fortunes of a team with 53 members on the shoulders of just one of them. This is getting rediculous. And I'm not trying to single you out here, as there are several posters here that feel the same way as you do. The QB is not solely responsible for a teams record. Most of us understand that.

            By the way, that last game against Carolina was your example of Rodgers putting the team on his shoulders and leading them to victory. If you seriously place any blame on Rodgers for that loss, even considering that he led the Packers to scores on EVERY POSSESSION of the second half except for the last one that ended in a desperation heave downfield that was picked off, then there's no reasoning with you. You'll never be satisfied.

            Christ, I wish the players on defense and teams were playing with the same fire Rodgers and his offense were playing with on Sunday.

            Who did that? I'm just saying stats don't make a winner. I never once said Rodgers was to blame for our 5-7 record so don't get it skewed. The original thread post was about how much better we are with Arod. Not true, nor did I once blame him so don't lace me with "your haters" as I like him and think he'll eventually lead us to many good teams with wins. I don't/didn't blame him as your generalizations suck ass. Check EVERY post I EVER made, as I don't blame him, but to think I'm gonna support he's "carrying" our team to a 5-7 record as this thread suggests is stupid. I did not blame him for our record or say he should be 10-2 either. Mobb makes a good point. Just win baby! Stats are stupid as is your comment saying I'm an Arod blamer, dumbfuck. Read what I said first. I never said ARod was a loser, just that he needs to win games to get the credit. That's what starting NFL QB's need to do. I like him, not you too much...But if you said something other than retarded generalizations about me, I'd prob. like you more, or if you went better than 5-7 and were our QB. Don't lace me as an ARod hater fool.....
            Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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            • #66
              Re: Rodgers Is Carrying This Team

              Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
              Originally posted by Gunakor
              Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
              First off I like Arod, but to compare the two is asinine. Sure, Carson Palmer is a first ballot HOF then right? Crazy good numbers, not so much for wins. How many winning seasons has he had with his sick QB rating........................1. I'm not one to compare those two, but there is one thing Brett has done consistently.................WIN.

              Shut the hell up and realize we are 5-7. Get back to us when you do (and yea, those offensive pts. are skewed bigtime by D TD's.) I like ARod, but till he brings us a winner..I'm off that parade you just launched as a "winner" in the QB debacle. Pathetic thread indeed. Who cares about stats when we lose. Go hit up Stephon Marbury's blog or something. Jeez....
              Winning is accomplished by a team. Wins and losses do not fall squarely on the shoulders of the QB. When your QB leads a drive late in the game to give you a lead with 2 minutes to go, he's done his job. If your team loses because your goddamn ST and defense can't do what's demanded of them, that's not the QB's fault. If your defense gives up a tying score heading into overtime, and then can't stop anyone IN overtime, that's not the QB's fault. That was the story for many years for Carson Palmer too - no defense in Cincy. That's not Palmer's fault.

              Many of Brett's winning seasons came along with having a top 10 defense - there were a couple years we had the #1 defense in the entire NFL. Look at the Jets defense this year - top 10 or damn close (were 10th before last weekend, haven't looked at what they are after). And Brett has 8 wins to show for it. A QB's success in the win column depends greatly on the other 44 guys who dress up on gameday.

              This year's 5-7 record has little to do with Aaron Rodgers specifically. It has much more to do with the Green Bay Packers in general. Stop putting the fortunes of a team with 53 members on the shoulders of just one of them. This is getting rediculous. And I'm not trying to single you out here, as there are several posters here that feel the same way as you do. The QB is not solely responsible for a teams record. Most of us understand that.

              By the way, that last game against Carolina was your example of Rodgers putting the team on his shoulders and leading them to victory. If you seriously place any blame on Rodgers for that loss, even considering that he led the Packers to scores on EVERY POSSESSION of the second half except for the last one that ended in a desperation heave downfield that was picked off, then there's no reasoning with you. You'll never be satisfied.

              Christ, I wish the players on defense and teams were playing with the same fire Rodgers and his offense were playing with on Sunday.

              Who did that? I'm just saying stats don't make a winner. I never once said Rodgers was to blame for our 5-7 record so don't get it skewed. The original thread post was about how much better we are with Arod. Not true, nor did I once blame him so don't lace me with "your haters" as I like him and think he'll eventually lead us to many good teams with wins. I don't/didn't blame him as your generalizations suck ass. Check EVERY post I EVER made, as I don't blame him, but to think I'm gonna support he's "carrying" our team to a 5-7 record as this thread suggests is stupid. I did not blame him for our record or say he should be 10-2 either. Mobb makes a good point. Just win baby! Stats are stupid as is your comment saying I'm an Arod blamer, dumbfuck. Read what I said first. I never said ARod was a loser, just that he needs to win games to get the credit. That's what starting NFL QB's need to do. I like him, not you too much...But if you said something other than retarded generalizations about me, I'd prob. like you more, or if you went better than 5-7 and were our QB. Don't lace me as an ARod hater fool.....
              And winning is not the QB's job alone. That's my point. Rodgers gets the credit regardless, because he's played extremely well. And I could care less if you like me or not. I didn't start with the name calling. Die in a fire "fool".
              Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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              • #67
                pack has scored 27 plus points in four straight games but are 1-3 over that span

                DAYUM!

                numbers OFTEN mean very little
                They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                  Originally posted by The Shadow
                  Rodgers has done an excellent job under extremely trying conditions
                  what ""trying conditions?"

                  FAT contract??
                  You are a Favre lover and you don't know what Shadow refers to? And here I thought you were smart.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                    Originally posted by The Shadow
                    Rodgers has done an excellent job under extremely trying conditions
                    what ""trying conditions?"

                    FAT contract??
                    You are a Favre lover and you don't know what Shadow refers to? And here I thought you were smart.

                    They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                    Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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