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It just showed up on NFL.com too. Williams n Williams are among the casualties.
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It just showed up on NFL.com too. Williams n Williams are among the casualties.
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That was the compromise, the guy who said he'd sue didn't get suspended....LOL. -
Is that the substance they were talking about in the New Orleans game? I seem to recall that the substance was an issue because the players had weight clauses in their contract and that this drug was a part of that. Apparently that's not the case with this drug?"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin FranklinComment
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That was part of their excuse. Of course there are plenty of other diet drugs with the same (legit) ingredients. Those same dugs were offered by companies with proven track records...Originally posted by MerlinComment
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Yeah, that was interesting.Originally posted by RastakWhen the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.Comment
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Alright, the Williams fatties are outta here! Remember this prediction, the Lions beat the Vikings this week, and as the Queens tank, the division deciding game is the Packers @ the Bears."I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince LombardiComment
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Not so quick. I think the NFL has made a mistake here myself. They KNEW about an illegal product and purposely withheld the information.
This one may not be over yet.
EW YORK -- The NFL has suspended six players for four games each for violating the league's anti-doping policy.
The players used a diuretic, which can serve as a masking agent for steroids.
The suspended players are running back Deuce McAllister and defensive linemen Charles Grant and Will Smith of New Orleans; defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams of Minnesota; and long snapper Bryan Pittman of Houston.
The punishment is an especially harsh blow to Minnesota, which leads the NFC North and relies heavily on the two Williamses to stop the run game.
A representative for one of the players told ESPN senior analyst Chris Mortensen on Tuesday that there is a plan to file for an injunction in a U.S. District Court Wednesday morning in an attempt to keep the suspended players active for the rest of the 2008 season.Comment
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The NFL likely knew this was coming and that was part of the reason it took so long to reach a decision in the first place.Originally posted by RastakNot so quick. I think the NFL has made a mistake here myself. They KNEW about an illegal product and purposely withheld the information.
This one may not be over yet.
EW YORK -- The NFL has suspended six players for four games each for violating the league's anti-doping policy.
The players used a diuretic, which can serve as a masking agent for steroids.
The suspended players are running back Deuce McAllister and defensive linemen Charles Grant and Will Smith of New Orleans; defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams of Minnesota; and long snapper Bryan Pittman of Houston.
The punishment is an especially harsh blow to Minnesota, which leads the NFC North and relies heavily on the two Williamses to stop the run game.
A representative for one of the players told ESPN senior analyst Chris Mortensen on Tuesday that there is a plan to file for an injunction in a U.S. District Court Wednesday morning in an attempt to keep the suspended players active for the rest of the 2008 season.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.Comment
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For the Packers, it might be better if they were suspended for the first four games of 2009--rather than the last four games this year."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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This is a real interesting situation.
Did the NFL have a duty to tell players about the supplement?
Did the NFL know the content for sure?
What made the players think it was OK to use? The label is not enough, because:
Players are responsible for what they take.
Players are responsible for the the mislabeled content of what they take.
Players are encouraged (on paper at least) to use nothing.
The negativity towards sports because of the drug culture surrounding all sports will work against the players.
The perception of the NFL trying to clean-up the sport will work in favor of the league's position.Comment
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But in issuing the suspensions, the league reiterated the section of its policy that reads:
"You and you alone are responsible for what goes into your body. Claiming that you used only legally available nutritional supplements will not help you in an appeal. ... Even if they are bought over-the-counter from a known establishment, there is currently no way to be sure that they contain the ingredients listed on the packaging or have not been tainted with prohibited substances ...
"If you take these products, you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK! For your own health and success in the league, we strongly encourage you to avoid the use of supplements altogether, or at the very least to be extremely careful about what you choose to take.""There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
Why? we haven't lost to a team with a losing season all year. The last 4 games are extremely favorable for the Pack, 4-0 or 3-1 and this team could be sitting the in the playoffs. All of this is made much more likely if the Vikings defensive mainstays are suspended."I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince LombardiComment
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Yes, the NFL and the players (I think specifically the Saints players who were initially mentioned) had already done this PR tango and everyone expected a court challenge if they were suspended.
I have a question for sharpe1027. You say "That was part of their excuse. Of course there are plenty of other diet drugs with the same (legit) ingredients. Those same dugs were offered by companies with proven track records..."
This seems to suggest that the players were intentionally avoiding the other products in order, presumably, to get that one particular brand and its unlabeled substance. I haven't read that anywhere, do you have a source for this contention?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Reading the NFL response, they also bring up good points.
Interesting situation.Comment
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The "Williams Wall" has crumbled.
If NCAA teams have to forfeit games over ineligible players than why not in the NFL with players who cheat by using illegal substances? It will never happen but think about the effect.
If the league imposed such a rule then the teams would test without mercy and stop steroid use by their players in its tracks, if they seriously wanted to.
BTW, with the Barry Bonds' indictment records being unsealed expect to hear a lot more about steroids in the near future.
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